Recommendations Needed for Replacing a 21-year old HP 5550

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Well, the good old HP 5550 is giving me after-market cartridge hiccups, as well as HP’s last WIN 7 driver for it stripped it of several functions it had years ago…and it’s been making some odd noises once in a while…so…looks like I’m in the market for a new inkjet printer. Hey, 21 years is not a bad run!

I need an inkjet printer that is NOT one of these all-in-one boat anchors, as I have a very fine Canon portable scanner that works just great, if a little slow. (Runs off USB 5VDC-one cable for everything, very portable.) I tended to go for HP printers, but my experience is out of date. (I hear printer mfrs’ are up to some tricky stuff, too.)

But every printer I look at in reviews priced in the lower $100’s* IS one of those bulky, all-in-one behemoths! As I like to keep it light and portable, does anyone have a recommendation for an inkjet printer that just prints? Nobody faxes anything anymore. Besides, I cut the landline years ago. And the real portables are $250+.

It doesn’t have to wash the baby and feed the dog. Photo print quality is, however, important. And it has to run on Win 7. (All that I looked at did.)

I guess I want a straight-across replacement! :)>>>

(*I’m a Senior on a fixed income-hence the budget issue. Sorry, but when my ship came in I was at the airport… 🙂

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I bought my partner an EpsonET-2720/L3160. Comes with ink tanks for 3-5 years.
Prints perfect photos…

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Thanks, but per my post:

1. It’s an all-In-One

2. At $325.00 it’s out of my league

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

At $325.00 it’s out of my league

Did you take into consideration (ROI) how much will 3-5 years of ink for a $100 printer cost you ? Probably 5-10 times the price of the printer (if it will hold for that time period).
We threw out a Canon TS3450 printer that died after 5 months.
Before that 2 HP Deskjet 2630 died after 6 months.
No one forcing you to use any of the AIO features accept printing.

* The printer is connected and works with Windows 7 laptop.

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Alex5723 wrote:

We threw out a Canon TS3450 printer that died after 5 months. Before that 2 HP Deskjet 2630 died after 6 months.

You could be right, but I need some more input.

BTW, these printers you mention are supposed to have a one-year warranty. I’m surprised you heaved them instead of invoking that. (I hope you recycled them as e-waste.)

It certainly does not speak well for HP or Canon’s line, or those models at least, in any case.

Well, “More shall be revealed.”

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If you live in the US, go to walmart.com — they always have something for under $50. A couple of years ago, I picked up a Canon PIXMA MX490 with an automatic document feeder for around $35!

Sorry, they don’t have just printers; it appears that all of their units are all-in-one units. In fact, I’ve looked at a few different stores, and none of them sell just printers; they all sell only all-in-one units.

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The only manufacturer who makes Single Function inkjet printers in the $100 or less price range appears to be Canon.

Here’s a link to Canon’s Single Function Inkjet printers with two models below $60.

If you’re willing to go a bit above the $100 mark.

Here’s a link to HP’s Single Function Inkjet printers with two models below $180.

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NBD,

I’ll ask you the same question I ask everyone…Do you REALLY need color?

If the only thing you’re printing is photos you’ll get a much better quality longer lasting print at a lower cost by taking them on a thumb drive to your local CVS or Walgreens.

If that’s the case I’d recommend a Brother Laser printer:

1. Builtin duplex printing.
2. Works great with inexpensive Linkyo replacement toner cartridges.
3. Much lower price per page!

I use the Brother HL-L2350DW (Amazon $149) and love it.

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

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The few Brother printers I have used in the past were very solid mechanically – very reliable. Also, the one Brother network printer I have set up was extremely easy to get connected to the network.

We are looking to buy a printer. It will very likely be a Brother printer.

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

I’m a Senior on a fixed income-hence the budget issue.

Me, too. But buying a printer based on its retail price is not a good long-term solution. The objective measure is cost per page.

I owned an Epson Artisan 800 printer, a great device with fabulous photo printing, CD printing, and copying/scanning. But the cost per page, even for black & white, was 40¢! My yield per set of ink cartridges was supposed to be 300 pages, far less if I did full-on photo printing. But I was lucky to get 200. That printer cost me $800, and I easily spent that much on cartridges before I switched to aftermarket ink.

I was saved by my Dell one-function laser printer, which had a cost per B&W page of 3.7¢, including the paper. The toner cartridge cost $140 but yielded 5,000 pages. 99% of what I print requires only B&W.

At the moment, the only comparable printer is the Lexmark B2236dw, $200. The toner cartridge costs $170 and yields 6,000 pages. My son has my older Lexmark (different, all-in-one model) but it has a similar cost per page.

I have only one printer now, the slightly weird Epson ET-5150 (an EcoTank model). I’m space-limited these days, so I needed a multi-function unit. This particular printer uses a pigment-based ink, so photos (using more expensive photo paper) are acceptable. But as RetiredGeek says, let someone else with expensive equipment do the photo work for you. (Costco used to be great for this, but at the end of this month its photo business will be fully in the hands of Shutterfly.)

Speaking of yield, my Epson ET-5150 reports that I’ve fed 575 sheets into the printer. It’s set to automatically print on both sides, and I estimate that’s the case for 60% of the sheets. That means the printer has made about 920 impressions. Based on the ink levels, I think I’ll get at least 2,000 impressions, proably more. A complete set of ink bottles costs about $100, so I’m headed for a per-page ink cost of 5¢. I’ll take it.

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If you find a low-cost printer that you are interested in be sure to read the fine print about what you are buying.

We recently purchased a “low cost” HP printer.

We were in a rush and did not read the fine print.

When we went to set it up and use it, we found that it required a HP “toner subscription” and the requirement that the printer have nonstop access to the internet.

The new HP printer was sent to the recycle bin.

Also see if you can gain access to Consumer Reports printer reviews.  You can probably gain access to their reviews on line at your local library.

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

BTW, these printers you mention are supposed to have a one-year warranty. I’m surprised you heaved them instead of invoking that.

These were low cost printers so we didn’t want to invest in mailing them and wait for repairs while we needed to use printers at home.

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…and to think all this started because I just wanted to print a 2X3 pic to go in a wallet…then the carts proved dried out! After a lot of common “unplugging tricks” on the carts failed, we are currently soaking the heads in a 50/50 mix of Isopropyl alcohol and distilled water, hoping.

Wow. There sure is a lot here to unpack! One cannot complain of a paucity of responses on this forum!

In an effort to mitigate my usual “Writer’s Curse” (10 words where five are needed) I didn’t add the reason for the color printing requirement: We bought this printer at a time when my wife was going full guns as a Graphics and Fine Artist, and we sold a lot of originals cut to odd sizes (the framers loved us, $$$) on very nice paper right out of the 5550 printer. (Also, it was just nice having the ability there in case we needed it.)

This is no longer the case, but as we are still planning to get the old graphics workstation up and running this year in our new home (3 years of health and COVID issues, and now the cost of housing, delaying everything) and things have changed. It may well do for us to go laser and just hand the whole pro color affair over to the digital print/graphics shop. We were using one anyway for the big stuff, especially the digital Giclee’s and regular canvas.

(Unfortunately, the outfits that do this well are getting few and far between…but that’s another story.)

And, as still I do a lot of general landscape and portrait photography (was a pro in a past life) we DID used to just drop it all off at the digital printer’s with the usual 4X6’s, so…the Laser route may be the way to go. Also, there’s inflation; $120 in Jan. 2002 is like, $200.00 in Nov. 2022. (BLS data)

And the printer failure rates today? Good old cheap foreign labor, I guess; they can have a fail rate of 25% and STILL make a profit.

Like I said, there’s a lot here to unpack from all of you!

I’ll let you all know how well the “overnight alkie soak” went. I know, I’m pretty sure those carts have gone to join The Great Printout in the sky. 🙂 in the meantime, heartfelt thanks!

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RetiredGeek wrote:

I use the Brother HL-L-2350DW (Amazon $149) and love it.

Was looking at the Linkyo carts…and notice they have replacement “Drums”.

https://www.linkyo.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=brother+730

Never owned a laser printer…how often do you have to change the drum?

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

Never owned a laser printer…how often do you have to change the drum?

I use an AIO Samsung CLX-3185FN laser printer/scanner/fax/copier for 8 years. Never replaced the drum.
Replaced 4 colors toner (replacements) cartridges only once.

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

we are currently soaking the heads in a 50/50 mix of Isopropyl alcohol and distilled water, hoping.

Take a paper towel and fold 1 sheet until 8 layers thick. Spray the folded paper towel with Windex glass cleaner. Place the cartridge with ink jets directly onto the soaked paper towel and place a weigh on the cartridge to keep the ink jets in full contact with the soaked paper towel. The ammonium in the Windex dissolves the dry ink much better than alcohol. Also, the ammonium will enter the cartridge thru the ink jets and liquify the dried out ink. Care must be taken to not let too much of the ammonium into the cartridge or the ink will get too liquid and leak when not in use. Usually a partially clogged ink jets take 30 – 45 minutes to unclog and some really dried out jets could take several hours. To test when you have enough of the soaking: lightly drag the jets over a clean dry paper towel….lines of ink from the jets lets you know they are unclogged and no more ammonium is needed.

Also be sure to clean the overflow sponge where the cartridge’s rest position is as debris from the overflow sponge can clog the jets again.

HTH, Dana:))

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

Never owned a laser printer…how often do you have to change the drum?

That’s a good question and something I should have mentioned as relevant to the cost-per-page calculation.

Depends on the printer and the manufacturer. My experience is that the more you pay for the printer, the longer the imaging units (“drum”) last. For the Lexmark B2236dw I mentioned, it’s 12,000 pages. For my old Dell, it was 30,000 pages (and I think the imaging unit was in the $200 range).

That’s one of the reasons I abandoned the Dell. I was approaching that 30K mark, and found it less expensive to get the Lexmark all-in-one instead. But then I handed over that printer to my son. Because the scanner on that Lexmark model was not the quality I hoped for, I decided I needed something different. That’s when I bought the EcoTank.

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

Never owned a laser printer…how often do you have to change the drum?

My Brother HL-5240 recommends replacing the drum ~25,000 pages but it also has an Replace Drum error light on the control panel that comes on when it detects the drum “must” be replaced (i.e. the fuser element in it isn’t reaching the proper temp quickly enough) and I didn’t replace it until that happened.

I’m currently on my second drum unit, replaced the first one at ~34,000 pages when the replace drum light came on, and after printing 6616 pages it still shows 93.3% life left so I’m on track to print about that same number of pages before it’ll need to be replaced again.

BTW, unlike a LOT of the current printers being sold, this one actually has a power switch on the right-hand side so I “only” turn it on when I need to print something and then turn it off once I’m done.

That means the fuser IN the drum unit isn’t “heated” all the time which I’m convinced is why the drum lasted so much longer than Brother’s recommend interval!

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Further on Consumer Reports Printer reviews.

The organization has tested and reports on over 220 printers ranging in cost from $39 to $934.

Each printer reviewed was tested by CR for Predicted Reliability, Text Quality, Test Speed, Graphics Quality, Maintenance Ink Use, Ink Cost/Year ($), and when appropriate Scan Quality.   They also have a rating for Owner Satisfaction. Each printer test category has a summery rating  reported on a scale of from 1 to 5.  They also provide an overall score for each printer.

Their ratings are broken down by printer type:

• Black and white laser printers (26)
• Color laser printers (11)
• Inkjet printers (20)
• All-in-one black and white laser printers (33)
• All-in-one color laser printers (17) and
• All-in-one inkjet printers (115)

They also provide detailed summaries of each printers features such as:

• Auto-duplex printing,
• Automatic document feeder
• Auto-duplex scanning
• Built-in fax
• Individual color cartridges
• Refillable ink tank system
• Flatbed design for scanning and copying
• Can print if color empty
• Swap black for photo ink and
• Borderless photos

As well as each printer’s specifications including:

• Product type
• Printing method
• Standard sheet capacity
• Height (in.)
• Width (in.)
• Depth (in.)
• Text speed (ppm)
• Text cost (cents)
• Graphics cost (cents)
• 8×10 photo cost ($)
• Maximum paper size
• Maximum paper basis-weight and
• Platform (Windows, macOS.

They also summarize each printer’s connections including:

• Networking
• WiFi Auto-connect
• WiFi Direct

In addition to having a subscription to CR,  we can logon to our library’s website and then connect to Consumer Reports.

Happy hunting.

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or maybe check your local library’s stacks.

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The full CR printer reviews are only available on line

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Kathy Stevens wrote:

If you find a low-cost printer that you are interested in be sure to read the fine print about what you are buying. We recently purchased a “low cost” HP printer. We were in a rush and did not read the fine print. When we went to set it up and use it, we found that it required a HP “toner subscription” and the requirement that the printer have nonstop access to the internet.

Just want to give a bump to Kathy’s warning here. As I noted in this thread, I ran into a similar problem last summer — also with HP. Seems some manufacturers are devising all sorts of clever ways to forcibly data-mine their users.

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dg1261 wrote:

also with HP. Seems some manufacturers are devising all sorts of clever ways to forcibly data-mine their users.

Don’t forget that HP blocks installation of replacement ink cartridges.

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Alex5723 wrote:

Don’t forget that HP blocks installation of replacement ink cartridges.

I know this sort of flummery has been going on for some time, but I have always been able to use after-market carts (to a worse or better result depending on the re-manufacturer). Maybe that’s because the printer is so old; made in a time when QC was not so bad and the printer companies weren’t as money-mad as they are today.

I know…this business of having a WiFi printer is a mixed blessing if it’s phoning home all the time.

After re-educating myself a bit on inkjet carts, I did find out you have to pretty much print a couple of pages a month to keep the carts from drying out. I never had this issue before, as lived in a very humid environment –by the ocean for decades. I’m currently much farther inland, where it gets hotter and dryer a LOT more, so I think the carts just dried up from environmental factors -dry air as we have HVAC and it’s a VERY dry climate. Disuse was another factor. Very little was printed in 2022.

Oh, and the alkie soak failed…so I just broke down and located a vendor of re-manufactured carts for the HP, $30 for all three plus shipping and they have a 10-day money back guarantee if you’re unhappy, so we shall see what we shall see.

If these fail, or something goes totally wrong with the 5550, well, it looks like a laser for me. Looked at the Brother RetiredGeek recommended and it seems to have a lot of good reviews. (But jeez…21 years? They built THAT one right back then.)

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Nibbled To Death By Ducks wrote:

Looked at the Brother RetiredGeek recommended and it seems to have a lot of good reviews.

Don’t buy Samsung as they are HP now.

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Alex5723 wrote:

Don’t buy Samsung as they are HP now.

Ouch! Yeah, they bought their printer biz. Everybody’s buying up all the smaller fish -see what MVNO’s Verizon bought in the past 24. Off-topic, but had to throw it in.

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A hidden advantage for Windows 10 users. You need to print a test page on your networked printer after every monthly CU. 😁

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huh ?ever saw that.

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Just joking. However, several recent CUs affected printing, so test page printing become part of my post-update testing and an opportunity to avoid dried-out ink cartridges.

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I’ve had great experiences with really old HP Laserjets such as the Laserjet 1012 from 2003.  Get the seller to tell you how many pages have been printed – less than 10,000 would be great.  Make sure the model you find has a Windows 7 driver.  Also check the price of toner cartridges, some have gone up recently.

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You may wish to consider your local library. Mine lets members send faxes, scan, and print for free. Why do they do this? They’re probably trying to attract patrons to the library.

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Purchased HP – LaserJet M110we Wireless Black and White Laser Printer recently with 6 months of Instant Ink included with HP+ – White  for $89 .Seems to work great. Small size, easy to setup, comes with Starter toner

In case anyone decides to signup for HP Instant Ink,

Use my link try.hpinstantink.com/m54ddt or the code m54ddt to add 3 months free extension on your HP instant ink subscription. i.e. total of 9 or 15 months free ink up to 700 pages/month.

Note: During the signup process, the HP app will automatically recognize the 12 month or 6 month free trial that comes with your printer. Enter the above code to add 3 additional months of free service

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Well, I thought I might clue all you fine folks out there as to what this ball of snakes ended up as, so:

I went through a non-HP aftermarket vendor, and it was just like pulling teeth. I ordered a Black cart and a Tricolor cart. Here’s what I got:

1. A black cart with the right number on it
2, A tricolor with the right number on it, but with the suffix “XL”. After looking over their website, this was supposed to mean “extra ink”. Seeing as it had to be the same form, fit, and function, I had misgivings. I was right. The Tricolor failed the start-up “Hey, there’s a new cart in here” printer test badly; the red was streaky, the blue blotchy, and the yellow absent. The black cart was the only one working right.

(BTW, neither Chinese cart had a date code on it that was readable without the factory Secret Code Book.)

I called the vendor, asked for a return label, and to please issue a replacement. Oh, boy. That’s where all the fun began.

“Did you try shaking it six times?” ?!? Lady, I tried everything short of getting a Hoodoo practitioner in here to conjure over it. How about a replacement once it gets back to you? “Sorry, we don’t issue replacements. After we get the bad cart back, we’ll issue a refund or store credit within 5 business days. Then you can re-order.”

(Unprintable expletives deleted)

Well, I got the RMA envelope label they emailed me printed out running from just the black cart, Then realized I had no padded envelopes. Off to Target, got the mailers, popped it in the USPO. They get it, issue a store credit, then their website has NO instructions on how to apply the store credit when reordering! I had to call them up again and get THAT straightened out.

(More unprintable expletives deleted)

The replacement (cough-cough) color cart does NOT have “XL” on it, (something off about that) and passed the start-up “Hey, there’s a new cart in here,” printer test.  Color print is acceptable, but not what it was. I figure the HP 5550 is showing some carriage mechanism wear after 20+ years.

Summary: (not soon enough, I know)

1. Next time the carts run dry, I’m getting the Brother B&W laser printer mentioned above by retired Geek.
2. Aftermarket cartridge e-dealers without a brick-and-mortar may be cheaper, but it’s a hassle getting satisfaction. Took me three weeks.
3. When I have to store it, I’m placing the carts in their holders, putting them in a plastic Ziploc with a slightly moistened paper towel, and then putting THAT in another Ziploc.

Man, what a hassle! And it all started with me just wanting to print out a pic of my wife and I  for my wife’s wallet!

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Errata:
1. Beware any and all color ink jet printers that have only two (black, tri-color) ink cartridges.  When one color ink runs out, you have to replace the color cartridge to get any prints at all.  They are ink selling machines.  You will not be happy.
2.  I used to sometimes refill my HP ink cartridges at Costco.  (Note: This service has been discontinued.)  My experience is that third-party ink has a chronic problem of clogging the print head, and it’s not worth the time, effort, and corrective maintenance trying to find a non-OEM ink source that doesn’t.

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The last time I went looking for a printer I found that I didn’t need color so I bought a Refurbished Dell laser printer. It was $88 and it works like a dream.
It had a 1 year warranty and free shipping. It came in three days and worked right out of the box. It is an AOI, wireless and works for two systems.
Refill cartridges are $15 for a pair of them. A new image loop cost $8.

I will never use an ink jet again, Too expensive. Toner does not dry up or clog.
I turn it off when not in use so as not to age the heater.

Good luck with the search.

 

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I have moved my printer search here.  Everyone who has a Brother Laser Printer/Scanner (I don’t need to Fax) Black and White that can be connected with Ethernet cable — which one do you recommend?

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As far as I can determine, the HL-L2395DW is the only Brother product that meets your B&W Laser Printer/Scanner with ethernet connection requirement.

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Thanks alejr — that certainly makes my search easier!!!! HL-L2395DW it is!!!!

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Note also that USB connection also is standard.
I have both USB (which I use locally as the printer is right by my computer) and an ethernet cable (router is close too) attached (for anybody else in the house).
My computer has it defined all 3 ways.

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