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    I’m running Win XP on three laptops – one Toshiba and 2 Dells. Everything worked great when we left town and when we returned one of the Dells and the Toshiba connected as expected.
    The problem is the the second Dell – I get “acquiring network address” on both the wireless as well as the local adapter.
    Nothing has been changed. All computers were locked up while we were gone.
    Any ideas??

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    • #1211655

      Hi John, and welcome to the Lounge!

      The following is a standard procedure in your situation. Your laptop is having difficulty in obtaining an IP address from the router (DHCP). Do the following from the problem laptop.

      1. Unplug the cable/DSL modem.
      2. Unplug the wireless router.
      3. Wait 60 seconds, then plug in the modem.
      4. When the modem is online, plug in the wireless router.
      5. On your laptop, open a command prompt by clicking Start, Run, type cmd, and click Ok.
      6. Once you have a command prompt, type “ipconfig /flushdns”. (w/o quotation marks)
      7. Next, type “ipconfig /release”. (w/o quotation marks)
      8. Finally, type in “ipconfig /renew”. (w/o quotation marks)

      If you get an error message about not being able to contact your DHCP server, then make sure Windows is managing your laptop wireless and not software that came with your laptops’ wireless device.

      In cmd type ping 127.0.0.1 . This will ping your own laptop. If you see error in the report, then TCP/IP is not configured properly on your laptop.

      You can go to cmd and type in ipconfig , press enter and you will see the DNS suffix, IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway address for your laptops’ primary network connection. To see the details about every available network connection type into cmd ipconfig /all . Check that your subnet mask and default gateway address are the same as on your other computers.

      Post your results from all the above back here.

    • #1211818

      I performed the steps you suggest – (flushdns) successfully flushed cache – (release) ip address has already been released – (renew) an error occurred on wireless. The RCP server is unavailable.

      I finally got a connection – I went to started services and compared them to the good dell and found that DHCP, network connections, network dde, smtp, tcp/ip helper were not started. Once I did that – the renew worked and I got an ip address.

      One additional thing – I was getting “limited or no connectivity” on the wireless and that must have been due to one of the services not being started.

      Thanks for the suggestions. Note “start services.msc” from “cmd” starts started services.
      jbs/

    • #1211844

      Hi John,

      I am glad to hear your difficulties are resolved. After I posted the steps to take, I thought about the services and wrote down a list of them to check to be sure they were started. That was going to be my follow up if you received error messages after running ipconfig release and renew.

      Your solution will help others who undoubtedly will experience the same issue at some point. Thanks for posting your solution.

    • #1211845

      I checked again after reboot – the culprit was DHCP Client wasn’t starting. Still don’t know why since it was set to Automatic.
      Anyway – thanks for YOUR help. And do post the list.
      jbs/

    • #1211952

      The following is a list of services to check to verify their status in a “no connection” situation:

      DHCP Client set to Automatic
      DNS Client set to Automatic
      Network Connections set to Manual or Automatic
      Security Accounts Manager set to Automatic
      Wireless Zero Configuration set to Automatic

      For file sharing:

      Server set to Automatic

      All above services should be verified as started.

      • #1308372

        My desktop PC running WindowsXP is also unable to “acquire network address”, this began subsequent to the reboot AVG suggested after an update. AVG had also just white listed C:WindowsSystem32Driversnetbt.sys

        I carefully followed the instructions in your post what follows are the ones that gave trouble.

        ipconfig/renew
        Error message “An error occurred while renewing interface Local Area Connection : The RPC server is unavailable”

        Then did a:- ping 127.0.0.1 without a problem

        Then an ipconfig giving
        DNS Suffix : lan
        IP Address : 0.0.0.0
        Subnet mask : 0.0.0.0
        Default Gateway : (a blank – no data)

        Checking Services
        DHCP Client was set to Automatic BUT HAD NOT STARTED
        DNS Client set to Automatic and had started
        Network Connections were set to Manual and had started
        Security Accounts Manager set to Automatic and started
        Wireless Zero Configuration set to Automatic and started

        When I attempted to start the DHCP Client I received the error message:- “Error 1075: The dependency service does not exist or has been marked for deletion”

        When booted and running from a Ubuntu cd the PC connects to the internet with no trouble, so I think the problem is with Windows rather than the network card or the physical connection.

        I use Soluto to keep an eye on boot times and if the router is turned off the PC boots in 40secs but if the router is on it takes 2:38

        I would welcome suggestions!

        Tony

    • #1308384

      At first sight, seems AVG did something that it should have not done – a service deletion??! Can you restore the system to a point where it was working?

      Otherwise, you can try and use Windows Services Dependency Viewerto try to find out what is missing.

      • #1308510

        Thanks for your prompt answer.
        I did try a restore almost as soon as I the problem showed, I have just tried again, at the earliest date available, getting on all occasions “Your computer cannot be restored to:” – I have used the restore facility fairly recently, so this failure is new as well.

        Just downloaded (via my laptop) and installed WSDV and looked at the DHCP Client section. Lots of information! But guessing that the “State” should not be “Stopped”; status is “OK” – Startmode “Auto” – ProcessId “0”

        The DHCP Client Dependent is a blank.
        The DHCP Client Antecedent has in it AFD and TCP/IP, the latter leads into TCP/IP Protocol Driver, which leads to IPSEC driver – both are running.

        When I run WSDV on my portable in the DHCP Client section there is an additional Antecedent of “NetBios over Tcpip. (Is this part of Wifi, which the portable is using, or the fact it is missing from the desktop part of the problem?)

        I then checked on the desktop the TCP/IP NetBios Helper. The State was “Stopped” on the desktop but “Running” on the portable.

        Hope the above information is useful….

    • #1308526

      Are all the antecedents running?

    • #1308583

      Again, thanks for your prompt answer

      Antecedents for the DHCP Client are:-
      AFD – State: Running – Status: OK – Started: True

      TCP/IP Protocol Driver – State: Running – Status: OK – Started: True

      TCP/IP Protocol Driver has a sub
      IPSEC driver – State: Running – Status: OK – Started: True

      It seems only the DHCP Client itself is “Stopped” with a ProcessId of 0

    • #1308591

      So if you try to start the DHCP client, do any errors show up in the Windows Event Viewer?

    • #1308676

      I have not used the Event Viewer before but after some experimenting I closed it down then using Services attempted to start the DHCP Client, this failed.

      I then opened the Event Viewer, which showed an error in the Service Control Manager at the time I attempted to start the DHCP Client. The message was “The DHCP Client service depends on the following nonexistent service:NetBT

    • #1308711

      So NetBT seems to be the cause of your problems. See if this helps: http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic9007.html

    • #1308870

      Looked good but when I got into RegEdit at:-
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/NetBT

      There was no NetBT listed,
      there was NetBIOS, NetDDE, NetDDEdsdm, Netlogon, Netman, NetTcpPortSharing but not the item suggested.

      Out of interest I checked the registry on the portable, NetBT was listed in there.

      I then did some Googling and found
      http://www.christowles.com/2011/11/how-to-reinstall-netbt-on-windows-xp.html

      Should I attempt follow this? But I hope you have a less complex suggestion!

    • #1308876

      I have no other advice regarding that situation. I no longer even run XP to check if there could be another way, so that link does seem interesting. Even if long, it could provide a way to solve your problem.
      If you check the properties of your adapter, does it show NetBios as one the active protocols?

    • #1309084

      Thanks for getting me to the stage of identifying that the problem was to do with NetBT.

      I have made use of
      http://www.christowles.com/2011/11/h…indows-xp.html

      which went smoothly and I now have an internet connection.

    • #1309090

      Great :).

    • #1309134

      You could try a System Restore to a point prior to experiencing the issue.

      Jerry

    • #1309313

      Jerry

      Thanks for your interest but I did try a restore almost as soon as I the problem showed on most of the dates back to the earliest date available, getting on all occasions “Your computer cannot be restored to:” – I had used the restore facility fairly recently, so the failure was new as well. Since things have been working properly I have set a restore point and been able to use it.

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