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If you have set your machine to Get the latest updates when they are available in the Windows update settings, congratulations on being a beta tester.
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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I have a Windows 10 22H2 Home PC and the Get the latest updates when they are available is set to Off.  Windows Update offers KB5050081 as a quality update available so it has Not installed KB5050081.

That PC downloaded and installed the following January updates on 1/15/25:

KB5049981 – Cumulative update

KB5050188 – Net Framework update

KB5050411 – Security update

The New Outlook was downloaded and installed with those updates and KB5050081 was not installed.  I suspect the Cumulative KB5049981 installs the New Outlook too.

BTW: I have a second PC with the same settings.  I installed the Registry value to stop installation of New Outlook on that PC.  It installed the same updates, but the New Outlook did not install.  The remainder of the update installed without any problems and really was a very fast update.

On the PC that installed New Outlook I am testing another Registry value that will prevent migration from Classic Outlook to New Outlook when Microsoft does push that change.

HTH, Dana:))

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Cybertooth

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DrCard:)) –

Perhaps you have an overlooked update setting buried deep within Outlook or Office that downloaded and surreptitiously installed Outlook(new) for you?

Also, there’s this setting (to download and install updates for other MS products when using WU) mentioned with a screenshot in another thread by @PL1. Maybe that one’s been set to “On” instead of “Off”?

Good luck in your registry entry testing to prevent the forthcoming “forced migration” from Classic to New Outlook!  🙂

 

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Susan Bradley wrote:

If you have set your machine to Get the latest updates when they are available in the Windows update settings, congratulations on being a beta tester.

Surprise! Just by using Windows 11 (and even Windows 10 previously), you were beta testing. Especially 24H2, which STILL is not ready for primetime.

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Bob99 wrote:

Perhaps you have an overlooked update setting buried deep within Outlook or Office that downloaded and surreptitiously installed Outlook(new) for you?

I don’t think so as I understand it the New Outlook is being pushed by a Windows update to Windows 10 systems that do or don’t have Office installed to replace Windows Mail and Calendar apps.

for Windows Update settings on that PC that downloaded the New Outlook that setting in the Advance Options is set to OFF.

After the updates both PCs are Windows 10 22H2 build  19045.5371.  Both PCs have the same update settings in Windows and Office and received the same updates as I listed.  The only difference between the two PCs is the Registry key to block New Outlook from installing, which it did.

The registry key (from Microsoft) I’m testing to prevent the migration is in this attached .bat which installs that registry value.

NoNewOutlookMigration

 

 

 

 

HTH, Dana:))

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Drcard:)) wrote:

I don’t think so as I understand it the New Outlook is being pushed by a Windows update to Windows 10 systems that do or don’t have Office installed to replace Windows Mail and Calendar apps.

I just looked on my Win11 24H2 install and I’m seeing it as well. I’m not sure if it was there before KB5050094 (26100.3037) or not.

ETA: I have Windows Update set to “Get The Latest Updates” ON and Other MSFT Products set OFF.

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PL1 wrote:

I just looked on my Win11 24H2 install and I’m seeing it as well. I’m not sure if it was there before KB5050094 (26100.3037) or not.

According to Microsoft it was installed as part of the original 24H2 install.

Windows 11 builds after 23H2 have the new Outlook app preinstalled for all users.

 

HTH, Dana:))

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Is anyone testing with Preview versions or getting ready with spare machines

for 24H2 being automatically installed with all of the other updates on February 13 ,

2025.

I am worried in 2 cases for some less experienced users and potential support IT not being available soon enough as both  are smaller businesses in a location not near me.

1) Windows 11 Pro Laptops with Microsoft 365 Standard getting updated to 24H2 and their drives then or later getting encrypted with Bitlocker such that they do not put keys in a safe place.

2) Windows Server 2022 getting whatever updates that make it difficult to change in future if their Microsoft accounts get locked out since that server runs AD for the 3 laptops in question along with network shares. ( Managing OneDrive changing file locations will be discused soon.)

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marhn wrote:

for 24H2 being automatically installed with all of the other updates on February 13

Nothing is automatically installed if you take ownership of your PC.

Use InControl to lock Windows to the version you want to stay on / to upgrade to new version

Use GPEdit to notify of new updates without downloading/installing.

Use GPEdit to block previews, drivers, firmware..

Use WUmgr to select which updates to install and which to hide.

You can use pause, metered connection to halt updates.

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opti1

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ps Next Windows Update is on Tuesday Feb. 11

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Alex5723 wrote:

Use GPEdit to notify of new updates without downloading/installing. Use GPEdit to block previews, drivers, firmware.. Use WUmgr to select which updates to install and which to hide. You can use pause, metered connection to halt updates.

If you use “Pause updates” in Windows Update, the GPEdit setting will not show the notification for pending updates.
If you use “Pause updates” in Windows Update WUMgr will not show the pending updates.
If you use the GPEdit setting or WUMgr, you should not Pause updates in Windows Update.

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