Performance questions about Win10 version 1809

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There’s an interesting poll going on about performance problems (real or perceived) with Win10 October Update, version 1809. If you’re running 1809, c
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They’ll iron things out when first users will be pushed to install and send telemetry data back. Should be fine and ready for usage for Christmas :). Great to have Pro :D.

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I’d really prefer to test the actual release myself – and you can bet I will be doing so when it becomes available.

That being said, there is no reason whatsoever to think that each new version of Windows 10 will perform even as well as its immediate predecessor. The increase in bloat is there with each new release. It’s mostly because they’re just hanging new application software all over it.

With 1803 a couple of days ago I pulled out all the stops and got my test Win 10 VM trimmed to where it will boot up and run desktop applications with just 74 processes to support an idle desktop, using a little over 1 GB of RAM and leaving the CPUs 99.5% idle (not bad; nearly equal to what I have achieved with Win 8.1, and almost as good as Win 7). “Just” 74 processes! That’s a whole 30 processes and most of a gigabyte of RAM less than the out-of-box configuration I started with. It feels a lot more snappy to use, though depending on what you expect from it isn’t really Windows 10 any more, with no App capability whatsoever.

The implication is clear: You’re not expected to find a new Windows 10 release lean and mean. You’re expected to buy new hardware to run it, thinking only of all the new features you’ll get for that investment!

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As they say, unused RAM is wasted RAM. I have 16 GB, so I have no issue with system taking even 2 GB as long as everything runs smoothly.

Perfomance and stability-wise, I have no reasons to complain about W10 – am I the only one here?

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Nah, I think it’s more fashionable to hate on 10 than it is to praise it, that’s all.
I have no issues with 10, outside of the update policies (which can be circumvented and/or shut off).

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I don’t really like the direction W10 is heading in terms of design choices, but I’ve never complained about stability or performance. The only issue I have is occasional sound cracking when playing system sounds.

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Thinking about the interface design, I compare it to using IE to download another browser or specifically Classic Shell. It’s the FIRST thing I do with W8.1 or W10 when off-line after installation.

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And what do we do when Classic Shell just doesn’t work any more?

-Noel

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Most people just need a shortcut to their Web browser only anyway :).

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Move on to: Open Shell which is being developed for v1809 onwards

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Microfix wrote:

Move on to: Open Shell which is being developed for v1809 onwards

Thank you! I wasn’t aware of that development. That brought a breath of fresh air to my morning!

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Has Open Shell had its issues fixed yet? Is it still currently in its “Nightly” unsigned stage?

@gborn doesn’t appear to have got past the warning stage, after his 2nd undated addendum

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Maybe my fault, but I haven’t found a major new version of Open Shell menu on Github. So the concerns are probably valid – I don’t believe, they changed the internal code, that DLL hijacking is no longer possible.

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You’re not alone. I’ve been running it on my backup machine for a couple of months w/o issue. 9/3/18 I installed it on my main machine w/o our problem (to get the latest Spectre/Meltdown protections along with a BIOS update from Dell). I haven’t noticed any slowdown at all. Of course it is an i7 w/16 Gb memory and 2 Samsung 850 SSDs.

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Yeah that’s the most dirty trick they are playing. Rolling out totally useless features and cosmetic gimmicks that requier faster and faster CPU’s and GPU’s. They do not add ANYTHING in matter of functionality. Personally I don’t care about some nearly invisible transparancy, improved animations and a boatload of instable, crashing apps I never ever used in my life and for which I also will never have any use.

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Even after 6 years of development, Windows 10 still can’t compete with previous Windows versions when it comes to performace; and the upcoming 1809 release is no exception.

Beside architectural changes in memory management and the window event and layout system having a huge impact on performance, Microsoft’s anti-malware system (a.k.a. Windows Defender/Security) is another performance killer. Agreed, the average user won’t notice.

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anonymous wrote:

Beside architectural changes in memory management and the window event and layout system having a huge impact on performance, Microsoft’s anti-malware system (a.k.a. Windows Defender/Security) is another performance killer. Agreed, the average user won’t notice.

Recent independent tests say that’s not true:
Performance Score 5.5/6.0 Average influence of the product on computer speed in daily usage
Windows Defender Version 4.12 Platform Windows 10 (64 bit) Report 182247 Date May-Jun/2018
AV-TEST Product Review and Certification Report – May-Jun/2018

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The report you’re referring too is unrelated.

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His link completely refutes the OP’s comment that Defender causes performance issues.

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It’s unrelated because those ‘tests’ linked to are anything but real world workloads. Also, Denfender was not the only performance killer mentioned.

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Check the test procedures; using sophisticated tests under realistic conditions.

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This doesn’t seem to be related to Win10-1809?!

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Elly

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That’s just the usual nonsense they claim. Average users fall for it.

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Even after 6 years of development, Windows 10 still can’t compete with previous Windows versions when it comes to performace; and the upcoming 1809 release is no exception.

I agree. Windows 10 is still in aplha testing, which is before beta testing. Beta are usually ready for customer testing. Aplha are only for internal employees to test. It seems MS thinks that everyone is their internal employee and release Windows 10 to the victims — users. Many if not all MS employees do not even use Windows or other products on their systems except at work space only, not even a Windows Phone, (pointing at Donna at MS). That speaks volume what they think of their own product.

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