Patch Tuesday patches are out

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It’s a strange mixture. MS16-095, the usual IE cumulative update Three different flavors of MS16-095, all cumulative updates for Win10 (presumably cov
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3172605 (or 3172615 for you apparently) is still optional on my Win7 updates.

3177725/MS16-098 and 3178034/MS16-097 have had their Windows Update pages just updated. The former is another kernel-mode driver update, which have never given me any problems. The latter is an update for Microsoft Graphics Component, which such updates have given people problems in the past or have measurably degraded gaming performance.

For now, installing MS16-098 and holding off on MS16-097 and MS16-101 for more info.

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Well, the good news….for me at least….is that the check for updates took 1 (yes, ONE) minute (yes, MINUTE).
I hope everyone else has a similar experience.
“O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”

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KB3177725 is indeed replacing KB3168965. We do not know yet if it the magic patch, whether on its own or along with another patch.

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New WIN32K.SYS MS16-098 (KB3177725) fixes are out, woody. Vista SP2 users should manually download & install the KB3177725 win32k.sys patches from either MS Update Catalog or MS Download Center to temporarily once again fix the slow/long WU scan problem from August 9 to September 12.

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KB3177725 “kernel mode driver update” is the “Miracle Patch” for this month. Did it for my Win7!!!! Replaces last month’s KB3168965.

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3167679/MS16-101 Windows Update page is up now too.

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For me, one of the best pieces of news here is that patching for 1511 is continuing even as 1607 is released. I know it may be that the Anniversary Update gets new features, but right now, I want smoothness, polish, and a bit more control than I’m being given with 1607. If that changes, I’ll look into installing the update; I’ve already rolled it back on my work laptop, blocked it on my home laptop, and am considering rolling it back on my home desktop.

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As it’s part of the Current Branch for Business, 1511 will continue to get patches for many months to come. I’d guess six to eight months, or longer, but I can practically guarantee four months.

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While there is no documented (supersedence) relationship between the current round of patches and previous months patches, two new patches seem to clean up a lot of the supersedence mess from the last few years of patches. If fully patched or at least having ALL Important patches to July 2016 and still experiencing problems with slow updates, install manually KB3177725 and KB3167679.
As stated in the main article, there is no urgency to do this now, just set Windows Update on Never check to avoid wasting CPU cycles and read Woody’s posts often for known issues with this month’s patches.

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I think the official line from Microsoft is to continue support for the previous major version for 3-4 months or maybe longer, the so called Current Branch for Business.

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A little question here:

I have my Windows Update set to only check for updates automatically, but not auto install nor download updates.

When I woke up my notebook this afternoon (I usually turn it off only once a week) it found the latest updates mentioned on this post, and now I’m not quite sure on what should I do…

While the reliability of the recently launched patches ain’t verified yet, should I hide the updates, or just leave them there without installing and Turning Off/Sleeping the system as usual?

I’m a little afraid that leaving it there might ruin my Windows Update search for updates, as I had problems like this before when leaving updates on the “queue” and not installing them…

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Does anyone see the difference between KB3167679 and KB3177108 for Win8? The description seems to be the same?

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They look the same to me. Strange. In the WSUS list, the former is for both Win7 and Win8.1, the latter is for Win 8.1 only. I wonder if somebody posted the wrong KB article?

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Assuming you’re using Win7 or Win8.1, I say leave them there and wait for a MS-DEFCON 3 report. No need to hide anything. It’s much too early to tell if there are any bad patches in the crop.

If you’re using Win10, it’s considerably more complex, but the same comment applies.

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Check out the email with the screen shots of the updates I sent you. Both show up under the Win8.1 shot

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Yes, Windows 7 here… Forgot to mention it… Not touching Windows 10 anytime soon, I hope… Haha

I know it’s pretty early to tell Woody, but do any of those seem to be safe to install at the moment on your opinion? I mean like the IE one, or the Malware Removal Tool?

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The MSRT tool is always good. As for the rest… there’s no pressing reason to install any of them. Wait a week or two or three – and check the MS-DEFCON rating.

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Using wushowhide on 1511. Hide KB3176493, KB3172729 and KB890830. Works great!

Q: if I schedule restart for time when machine is off. What happens upon next start

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Q: if I schedule restart for time when machine is sleep. What happens.

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It restarts.

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If it’s turned off, nothing happens. If it’s asleep, it should wake up.

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Running Win 7. I manually installed 3177725. I then set update to check but let me decide. It took 4 minutes to offer me the few remaining updates. I picked 3 of 4. I held off on 3178034, graphics. Of the 3, one failed. Once update finished and rebooted, I went to check. I was surprised that the MSRT failed!
I’m not worrying about that one.

Got coffee?

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I have noticed two weird issues with build 1607 (Anniversary Update). I did an in-place upgrade from 1511, and the last upgrade from the original Windows 10 broke Windows Defender as well.

I am not sure the metered connection setting for my Wi-Fi connection is being honored. It took a long time for the patches to download but not long to install. Maybe the servers were just busy or need configuration.

There was no pause to let me choose to install the new updates; the updates simply installed.

The second issue is that Windows Defender will not update definitions via Windows Update. I have a 20 GB data cap, so I was always careful to load incremental Defender updates via Windows Update to avoid the 130 Mb update from within Windows Defender. Daily incremental definitions are only a few megabytes. The progress meter gets stuck at 0% for hours. But, updating definitions from within Defender only loaded incremental updates rather than the whole 130 Mb package. The Defender search, download and install was fast.

Let’s hope this was intentional on Microsoft’s part!

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Just install the MSRT as Woody says and after that, change the setting to ‘Never check for updates’ to avoid scans which you do not need, until you decide to actually install the patches.

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Hi Woody; is there any chance that MS will publish íf and when the Hardware Identifying issues from v.1607 will be dealt with? At my pc’s in the DeviceManager the (hidden) (USB) “Portable Devices” disappeared, and couldn’t be repaired. So, some devices, like ereaders were not identified correcly anad just shown as Raw/not-formatted….. useless for me.
The upgrade was 1st: forced by me using the the MSwebsite-link, this upgrade went stuck …. restored by rolling back; 2nd: trying to upgrade to v.1607 by using the formal install ISO. This gave the broken devices issue… rolling back and all didn’t work… So I imaged the the whole bleeping thing back to v.1511.
Well, after being used by Microsoft as a stupid guinea-pig/testuser since Windows 1.0 (forced and by professional choice aswell) I am getting fed-up to be treated disrespectfully by Redmond-cs.. I think it difficult to believe that all these things happen without any knowledge by MS.
Once again, Woody thanks for your work and website.
Regards, Fred

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i installed KB3161608 last month, and have had search times of about a minute since, this morning was no different, so atleast it managed to do something right

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KB 3177725 speed up patch worked like a charm. Many thanks to Woody, EP. Neil, ch100, PKCano, Dalai for all the effort you’ve put in to finding this very reasonable work around.

Well done.

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I’d suggest that you hop over to Reddit and post your problem. Stick to the facts and describe them as best you can. https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/

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There’s no pause. Once you’ve run Check for Updates, you’re going to get the update – unless you hurry around and run wushowhide in time.

I don’t know about incremental Defender downloads. Perhaps someone else here can help?

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KB3177725 AND KB3167679?
wu.krelay.de/en only mentions the first one.

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Thank you @louis

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I discovered that by running wushowhide BEFORE Check for Updates, you can hide any updates that you wish to defer from the update checker.

It seems wushowhide kinda, sorta does check for updates without downloading (fyi, I did have wi-fi set to metered).

Then run Check for Updates. If you hid all updates, then you should see that the computer is up to date. Else you can now download and install any updates you decided not to hide

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Yep. It’s a chicken-and-egg situation. The one redeeming social value is that if you run wushowhide fast enough, it’ll pull the rug out from under any updates that are being downloaded.

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“Kind of makes you wonder how much Edge differs from Internet Explorer.”

http://i.imgur.com/aI0OlbL.jpg

Sorry, Woody. I couldn’t resist

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HA! That’s GREAT! Author, author!

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Win7 64 bit Pro here. I installed KB3177725 manually, and then ran an update check (automatic checking is disabled), which completed in under two minutes. KB3172605 showed up in the “Optional” list.

Quick question: Prior to installing KB3177725, I “stopped” the wuauserv service in the Task Manager. Following the installation and reboot, it was still disabled – I was expecting it to be reset upon restarting. As mentioned, Windows Update is set to “Never Check” on my machine. Should I manually restart wuauserv, or just ignore it?

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Personally, I would set it to start automatically – but I bet you’ll find other opinions here, as well.

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A word of warning regarding the MS15-095 Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 11 (KB3175443) on Windows 7 X64 at least…

The download link on the Bulletin page (https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/ms16-095.aspx) downloads an older revision of the file than that available from the Microsoft Update Catalog which I was unable to install.

The BAD version has a file size of:
53,452 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows6.1-KB3175443-x64-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/07/30

The GOOD version has a file size of:
53,446 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows6.1-KB3175443-x64-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/08/02

I haven’t been able to verify the status of the x86 update for Windows 7, or those for Vista or Windows 8.1, but please be aware!

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So KB3177725, as well as the MSRT, is on the “safe list”?

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MSRT is always on the safe list.

3177725 doesn’t seem to trigger major problems.

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@Woody:

Since I’m seeing an “updated list” from http://wu.krelay.de/en/ and noting that the KB3177725 has been added, I have not run the “check for updates yet”.

I have all of the required updates referenced except except for the KB3177725. My question is:

Should I just run the “check for updates” without having the KB3177725 installed already?

If the “check for updates” brings up the KB3177725 automatically with the “check for updates”, is that sufficient?

Thank you for your help, which is always appreciated.

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To get a fast scan, download the KB and install it manually with Windows Update turned off….

Or you can just ignore it all for now. I don’t see any patches worth installing right away.

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According to the corresponding Security Bulletin:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms16-101.aspx

they deal with a different type of vulnerability concerning Windows Authentication Methods. The one of them does not apply to Win 7

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Daily searching for updates on continuous loop again this month. (rolls eyes)

Manually downloaded kb3177725 using instructions from http://wu.krelay.de/en/ from last month.

Searching took less then a minute.
Windows 7 Home 64 bit.

FYI, for the past 1 1/2 year have only applied “critical” patches on my computer and only after researching that they were safe.
I have 2 this month. Will wait a few weeks before I download them.

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@Woody: I think I know where to go to install KB3177725 manually (either MS Update Catalog or MS Download Center – – – ?). Hope this is correct since I’ve never done that previously.

It says to “install it manually with Windows update turned off”. I’m assuming that it is to be turned off prior to installing it manually (?).

Question about “Windows Update being turned off:

Another “first” for me. Is this the option that says “Never Check for updates”? under the “reset”? Also if it’s selected can it be reset again to its previous setting of:

“Check for Updates but let me choose whether to download and install them.”

Apologies for my complete lack of computer literacy. Thank you once again for your help to so many of us!

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No problem. Read this article:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3105605/microsoft-windows/2-easy-steps-to-speed-up-windows-7-update-scans.html

And download KB 3177725 from here:

x64: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53446
x86: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53466

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(KB3167679) win 7 64bit keeps trying to download and install but fails every time. this is the only one not to install.

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Weird. Is there an error message?

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UPDATE: I just ran Check for Updates in Windows 10 AE, and my metered connection was honored for the first time since upgrading to 1607. The latest Windows Defender updates were offered, and there was a pause before the definitions were downloaded and installed.

I guess we all need to be patient while Microsoft works this stuff out (they do fix things eventually!) I also think that the AE build uses slightly less RAM than the 1511 builds and is a little faster.

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A funny thing happened on the way to the update (W7 SP1 Home Premium x64):
I installed this month’s magic update 3177725 on its own and when I rebooted and logged on I got a message that my desktop was being prepared (I guess the sort of message that a new user account might get the first time it is used). When the desktop eventually finished loading it was a brand new desktop, missing all the files I usually have on it. The screen resolution had changed as well. PANIC!
However, as a non-techie, I knew that the solution had to be “turn it off and turn it on again”, so I did and after the reboot everything was normal again. RELIEF!
It’s a bit concerning if even the magic updates start causing weird things to happen…

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[see later post – the problem has apparently been fixed -WL]

The IE9 Cumulative updates (x86 and X64) for Vista are ok, but the IE11 updates for Windows 8.1 are BAD – same deal as above, newer release available from the Microsoft Update Catalog.

X64:
The BAD version has a file size of:
55,175 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows8.1-KB3175443-x64-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/07/30

The GOOD version has a file size of:
55,187 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows8.1-KB3175443-x64-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/08/02

x86:
The BAD version has a file size of:
29,494 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows8.1-KB3175443-x86-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/07/30

The GOOD version has a file size of:
29,493 KB
And a Build Date (in IE11-Windows8.1-KB3175443-x86-pkgProperties.txt) of:
2016/08/02

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OK, just checked the downloads on the MS16-095 page and Microsoft has fixed the links, so things should bed better.

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” I “stopped” the wuauserv service in the Task Manager. Following the installation and reboot, it was still disabled – I was expecting it to be reset upon restarting.”

Simply “stopping” a service using Task Manager has no impact what-so-ever on the service’s Startup setting, that can only be changed via the Services panel. The ONLY way this service could get Disabled is if a user changes the Startup setting themselves to Disabled… which is NOT recommended!

If the Startup setting is set to either of the “Automatic” settings it will start automatically, and if it’s set to “Manual” the service will start either by manually starting it OR immediately upon opening the WU panel.

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Whew….

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Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3167679)

Installation date: ?8/?10/?2016 7:40 AM

Installation status: Failed

Error details: Code 80070057

Update type: Important

A security issue has been identified in a Microsoft software product that could affect your system. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. For a complete listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.

More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3167679

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com

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Just a heads up, if it hasn’t already been posted:
Kaspersky’s products are not fully compatible with the Win 10 AU.

http://support.kaspersky.com/us/12394

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That’s called a Temporary User or a Temporary Desktop. It happens when for whatever reason, Windows is unable to load the user profile associated with that account. I had this happen on my ASUS tablet after last month’s (July) Win 10 Pro CU and Platform Update. Restarted and all was well again.

I had to go online and look up the phenomenon to be reassured that all Windows wanted was a second reboot before logging back into the account.

Weird indeed…

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My Win7 Pro SP1 does the same on occasion. Not often enough to be concerned about, but often enough to make me go, what the….? A restart fixes it every time.

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Thanks. Nope, I hadn’t seen that. McAfee and Avast have also issued warnings:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104999/microsoft-windows/windows-10-anniversary-update-woes-continue.html

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See PKCano’s post, https://www.askwoody.com/2016/how-to-tell-if-your-win10-anniversary-update-clobbered-cortana/#comment-94654

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@Woody:

Thank you for all of the information and guidance you provided. I read and re-read everything, including the InfoWorld of 8-9-16.

My first step is to turn Windows Update off, following your very detailed instructions. Thank you so much for providing that information!!

I just wanted to verify that Firefox automatically downloads the KB3177725, with no option to “save”.

In this case, will it be a problem if it downloads directly? I don’t have another browser to use, unless I use the IE or try to get Chrome. I see that it says explicitly to “save the patch but do not install it” after the download.

The links you provided were great, and I am now hoping that I can move forward with the DL of the update. This new one is the only one I don’t have. If using Firefox is a problem I can look for another browser to use.
I’m in no “rush”, I just want to be certain that when I attempt this maneuver that it will be successful.

Thank you once again for “having all of the answers”. You are truly amazing!

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If Firefox downloads with no explicit option to Save, don’t worry about it. The MSU file is downloaded to your Downloads folder – or a different folder, if you changed the default. It won’t get installed until you double-click on it.

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@Woody: I’ll take a look at how FF “acts” when I do the DL on this update. As long as I don’t “clear” it, I’m hoping it will remain there until I’m ready to install it.

One other question, which I neglected to ask – – – after the KB 3177725 update is installed, how do I turn the “updates function” back on. Just utilize the instructions to get to the menu, and turn it back on again?

It’s almost like getting one of those “first bicycles” with “little wheels” for the “newbies”. LOL!! Always fearful of making a mistake. Apologies for that, and once again a huge “thank you” for all of your help!!

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Naw, once you’ve gone through the steps in the article, when you reboot, everything will be set back to its original position – in particular, Windows Update will get started again.

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I’m using BitDefender Free. Had no problems.

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@Woody: The reassurance you provide is just outstanding! Thank you again, again, and again!!

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Security update for .NET Framework 4.5.2 KB3135996 has been revised and may be offered again for those still at version 4.5.2 and not 4.6.1.
I think it is only a cosmetic change as there were 2 versions a month ago, one of them was expired since then and the supersedence information was incorrect for the “good” version. This revision seems to correct the supersedence information only.

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Hi Woody
Am grateful for all the advice – me being a 72yr old lady but one who still likes to take charge of her own life (including computer issues) I have followed all the instructions from wu.krelay and they work perfectly for downloads to my tower (Windows 7 Pro) – however I have a laptop with Windows 7 and although is is set to ‘notify but not download’ it has been telling me that I am up to date and there are no new updates. It has been this way since the April downloads so I have had no updates for three months. I have followed all instructions from wu/krelay and installed all that they suggest but I still cannot get any updates through – it will just keep searching for ever.
Have you any idea what could have caused this to happen and more importantly how I can rectify the problem? I did notice that one of your other followers has the same problem.

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Woody, Lenny

I had the same situation when I was installing this week’s WU’s on my Laptop.

– Win 7×64 Home Premium OEM Toshiba L655 Laptop (circa 2011)

When the WU’s installed, KB3167679 failed with Error Code 800F0902 .

The other WU’s installed ok.

I downloaded the standalone installer link for KB3167679 and tried it that way. A dialog box appeared saying something like “This update isn’t compatible with your PC”.

I then retried installation from the Control Panel WU screen. Prior to re-trying, I noticed that another WU appeared in my WU ‘inbox’:

KB3135996 security update for the .NET Framework 4.5.2

I installed both WU’s, all worked ok; KB3167679 installed this time.

Woody: ‘Sidebar’ :

This is weird. A couple of weeks ago, around the time that the W10 free-upgrade deadline passed, my Sys Tray WU icon began working again after about a year of being absent.

This is the “New updates available”… Sys Try Icon. This icon had stopped working last summer, about the same time the 1st batch of ‘GWX’ updates began deploying. That occurred on both of my Win 7×64 Home Premium OEM PC’s.

I didn’t look into fixing that issue last year as I always check the Control Pnl WU page before installing any WU’s. I just added a little line to my ‘login’ script that opens the Control Pnl WU screen every Wed-Fri.

I guess in the Windows OS “Matrix”, they “giveth & taketh away” :d. This time, it gave me back my Sys Tray WU notification icon.

I think it ‘self-repaired’ that icon during July’s WU installs as that’s about when the icon reappeared after a year’s hiatus.

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For July and August UDs, two W7 PCs set to “Download but let me decide” status and one W7 PC set to “Never check.” The two PCs both installed all UDs without warning as soon as the PCs were turned off. No way to stop except to pull the power. Power on again, same thing when shutdown again.

The “Never check” PC does not do this.

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“Check but let me choose whether to download and install them” also lets you choose, but I’m coming around to the idea of “Never check” as being the best choice.

The “download but let me decide” is just marketing BS. If you have that checked, the next time you reboot, you’ll get hit.

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I’ve given up trying to figure out why the “New updates…” icon works sometimes and not on others. Nice to know that it’s working again!

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For those with Windows 10 Pro, I’ve been using gpedit.msc (Local Group Policy Editor) to lock down some update features.

See:
Computer Configuration>Administrative Templates>Windows Components>Windows Updates>Defer Upgrades and Updates

By default this is set to “not configured”.

I have been able to dial up “Defer upgrades for the following duration (months)” to 8(months).

You can also dial up “Defer updates for the following duration(weeks)” to 4(weeks).

This works so well that I had to roll “Defer updates” back to 0 (weeks) to even allow wushowhide to locate the current updates. Seems that by pushing them out, they completely fall off the radar, so to speak.

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Try running the Microsoft reset tool

https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Reset-Windows-Update-Agent-d824badc

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Yep, and checking the “Defer upgrades” box in Win10 Pro’s Start > Settings > Updates & security > Advanced Updates will also defer the upgrades. It isn’t clear precisely how long (at least to me), but the deferral is measured in months.

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Exactly. I prefer the precision of the duration as stated in the policy, over Microsoft’s unclear language in the Settings GUI. There is just waaayyyy too much unclear these days about Microsoft’s “features”.

At least I know I won’t have to deal with the Anniversary Update for 8 months.

Surely MS will have cleaned up that mess by then, LOL!!!

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I’ve seen many instances of this bogus no updates are available message over the past several moths but by clicking on the “Check for updates” link on that page it has always produced a complete list of updates after checking.

Every time!

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re: Woody “… but I’m coming around to the idea of “Never check” as being the best choice.”

AMEN!!!

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I have been checking for updates and when they arrive on my machine I go thru them and install only the ones needed and toss the rest until another time. After installing I immediately check the box “Never check for updates” then restart my machine. Switch back when I decide it is time to check again. It works perfectly so far.

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Stop services Windows Update, BITS, Trusted Installer (Windows Modules Installer) – just stop and do not change their configuration.
Log on as the built-in Administrator or disable User Access Control (UAC) if logged on as another administrator.
Delete folder C:WindowsSoftwareDistribution
Optionally, delete C:WindowsWindowsUpdate.log
Restart the computer.
Please let me know if it works now, there are few more steps to try if it still does not work, but chances are that it will work with only the steps above.

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@woody “but I’m coming around to the idea of “Never check” as being the best choice.”
It probably is now between round of updates to avoid the slow update experience which just keeps the CPU at high utilisation for no good reason.

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@woody “The “download but let me decide” is just marketing BS. If you have that checked, the next time you reboot, you’ll get hit.”
Not really if doing the selection correctly. But yes, this is the default behaviour.
The advantage of “download but let me decide” is to do larger downloads (like those for Office cumulative updates – 1GB or more) in the background for the next time when the actual updates are selected and installed.
It is still better not to use that setting if not understanding its behaviour in full.

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Watch out for Microsoft “tuning” their Group Policy offering in the Pro version vs Enterprise in the future.

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For me IE 11 and Edge are almost the same. Except for Edge dropped Compatibility Mode and simply directs you to IE 11 for that. Plus a new Java Engine and finally a UI built for a tablet. Otherwise, I have similar or same issues with sites in Edge as I do IE 11.
Did anybody really think Microsoft would do a completely new browser?

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I assume they won’t rest until they pry the last last bit of control away from the consumer’s hands. But for now I’m happy

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I am not sure, but isn’t Edge built on the same Trident engine like IE?
While I am not currently using Windows 10 for anything important, in case I need to make a choice between Edge and IE, IE is by far the preferred one.

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Am totally confused now!! After not having any updates since April – last week I downloaded the recommended wu.krelay updates and left it at that. After reading your advice I went back to start following your instructions only to log on and find I suddenly now I have 29 important updated waiting to be downloaded and installed(this is without having made any alterations) Taking them a few at a time and making sure they are all ‘good’ I have tried to install them only to be faced again with the hours of ‘Downloading updates’ with nothing happening….
As I have the magic numbers for both July and August from wu.krelay I am stumped at to know how to proceed from here. I may have to download them all as ‘stand alone updates’and install them manually but what a palaver!!!

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Ah, Windows Update works in mysterious ways.

First, realize that there’s nothing pressing from either the July or the August crop of patches. There’s no rush.

That said, make sure you’ve manually installed all of the updates listed here:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3105605/microsoft-windows/2-easy-steps-to-speed-up-windows-7-update-scans.html

Plus the one I missed: KB 3020369. It’s mentioned in the comments.

Then, at your leisure, try it again.

Manually downloading and installing patches, one by one, is a good way to drive yourself crazy.

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Win 7 similar issues for me…
The resolution on my pc also changed after installing 4 critical updates last week, updates issued on August 10 I believe. The update also blocked certain personalization settings, preventing me from changing the appearance of the desktop and preferred colors of the toolbar back to my pre-update normal. The screen page where you select the colors for the toolbar would not display, only the box where you set the browser border colors/font sizes.
My only recourse was to perform a System Restore, back to before I updated.
I thought I’d try doing one update at a time to see which was causing the problem. KB3177725 was first, and seeemed fine until this morning. Powered off the pc last night, turning back on this morning and the resolution & toolbar color was changed again. Rebooting did not restore it. Its a new computer, Asus MD11, and Im a bit nervous…dont know what to do.

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Take it back to the dealer! As long as you’re in the service period, there’s no reason to fret. Take it back and get something different.

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There are known (and unknown) issues with several of the patches this month.

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Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB3177725)

Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB3176493)

Both of these have the following known issue (Microsoft is actively working on a fix):

Known issues
After you apply this security update and you print multiple documents in succession, the first two documents may print successfully. However, the third and subsequent documents may not print.
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KB3178034 has the following issue on Windows Web Server 2008 R2

See http://windowsreport.com/kb3178034-windows-7/

“Before you install this security update, you should know that Windows Server users are complaining that KB3178034 breaks their ASP.Net pages. Fortunately, they managed to uninstall it and fix the issue.

—> This morning KB3178034 was installed on my Windows Web Server 2008 R2 through Windows Update. Once the server was rebooted, someone tried to log in to one of my ASP.NET applications and got an error about LocalFunctions. […] I looked at what was installed through Windows update and started with that one (it was top on the list). Uninstalled it, rebooted the server (it made me), tried the application again and it worked.”
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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3167679
also has something listed as a known issue, but it appears to be a deliberate “issue” introduced by design

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Interesting about kb3167679 – it sounds like it will stop me doing something I currently have the ability to do. Why would I install it?

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Thanks for the update!

I’m also seeing problems with 3172729 and 3178465. Looks like I’ve got a whole lot of testing to do tonight….

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@Woody:

I’ve followed all of the instructions to the letter, and the DL was on the desktop. I clicked on it to get it to install, and all I’ve seen is “searching for updates on this computer”, non-stop. It’s been over 40 minutes already. I had all of the other updates that were “needed” on the list, so the KB3177725 is the only one I didn’t have already installed previously.

Should I just wait and let it run for an hour or more? I haven’t had any new updates show up this month at all. I’ve been waiting for the time to just get the “magic update” which was the only one I don’t have installed on the “list” (KB3177725).

I hope you can help me, because I don’t know what to do. I’ll wait as long as I can before I shut it down and then restart. Is this what I should do if it won’t give me any updates? Thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

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The smartest thing to do is just give up for now. You don’t need any of the August patches just yet.

But if you really, really want to pursue this, you need to download KB 3177725 manually

x64: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53446
x86: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53466

Then turn off the update service, install 3177725. Then turn on the update service.

You shouldn’t have the “searching for updates” notice.

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@Woody: I already turned off the update service, and manually downloaded the KB3177725. It was when I clicked on the manually downloaded KB3177725 that the “searching for updates started”.

I will take your advice and stop this now. I hope that the update service will “reset” itself? I should have never tried it.

My apologies for your help… I am so sorry to have bothered you (again). Thank you so very, very much.

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@Woody: The “checking for updates” won’t “CANCEL”. I am trying to give up on this, however the only way I can get it to “stop” will be to shut it down. I hope this won’t mess anything on the computer up.

I’ll wait about 10 minutes to see if you receive this message. If no message I will shut down and hope for the best. Once again, please accept my apology, and thank you for your help.

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No need to cancel. Just let it run overnight.

I’m very confused why you’re getting “searching for updates.” That shouldn’t even be possible if the update service is turned off.

(And, yes, it’ll turn itself back on when you re-boot.)

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In that scenario, set it to Automatic (Delayed) as it is default. Otherwise,if you disable, you have to reconfigure and start manually after restart.

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@Woody: My attempt to install the “stand-alone” KB3177725 failed. I have no idea why.

Would it be possible to “delete” the icon from the desktop since I won’t be using it?

Also
could I use the CURRENT wu.krelay.de/en/ list to try to DL and install the KB3177725 which is the only one on the list I do not have.

Also a question about the “old” KB3172605 which replaced the KB3161608 from June. I think I have it hidden and wondered if that may be one I could use (baggage and all).

I finally have a few updates listed, however when I click on install for the KB3177725, it’s the same old thing of “never-ending searching for updates”.

Just running “checking for updates” now, and after a while will shut it down again and hope that there will be a miracle and things will be as easy as they were for almost 20 years.

I never did install the “magic update from June KB3172605 (the replacement for KB 3161608). I think it’s hidden. Could this one possibly be of any use now?

Any and all suggestions will be most appreciated.

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I suggest you wait for a week or two. 3177725 is now known to be buggy (although the bug is a bit obscure). 3172605 isn’t a pressing patch.

Try again when the MS-DEFCON level goes to 3 (or, who knows, 4?).

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@Woody:

Thank you for bringing some “sanity” back to the problems I’ve been having. I really need to “let it go” for the present time, as I’m literally burned out.

Last month I only had a few days before I was able to get the “fix” where where I could DL & install the July updates before the new ones were issued. I think that I’m just really stressed out and need to STOP and wait for a reasonable resolution.

Thank you once again for your “common sense” approach and patience.

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There have been very few patches this year that needed to go in quickly – unless you’re using Internet Explorer (or, increasingly, Edge), or you insist on using Flash or Adobe Reader (which aren’t patched by Microsoft).

While it’s true that most infections take advantage of holes that are already plugged, the ones that really get worked out are many months, or years old.

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@Woody; I think I’ve asked this question more than once. The icon which I downloaded for the KB3177725 remains on the desktop, and I would like to delete it if it is “safe” to do so.

It would not install, and I hope I can just remove it from the desktop without causing any problems ??

Thank you for your guidance on this as I am hoping that I can delete it (using the shift key as well) so that it never shows up again.

Apologies for asking this question more than once, however I would appreciate your opinion on this. Thank you, once again, as always.

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It’s always safe to delete an icon on your desktop.

Sorry if I overlooked your question!

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@Woody; Thank you so very, very much for the “okay” on deleting this icon from the desktop.

Your help is most highly esteemed by myself, and all of the other members whom you have assisted. You are appreciated more than words can ever express.

Thank you once again.

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I disabled the update service and the new updates no longer showing updates and created restor point

My laptop Samsung Model NP350V5C-A0EUK

I haven’t been switching my computer off since last week – I got KB3172729 installed on the 10/08/2016
Shall I uninstall KB3172729 update??

I am worried that it will activate if I restart although Microsoft dosn’t show that it needs restart?

how can I make sure it isn’t going to restart – or update?I don’t trust restore point as they don’t work properly on my computer – and it still shows window7?
there is a restore point on the 9th August which is different ( type: install??)

I have posted it in microsoft community with images if you can access it under
how to stop the Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3176493) update on windows10 home

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update/how-to-stop-the-cumulative-update-for-windows-10/5b56a155-ddb6-48c9-9ce5-395ed8ad82e7?tm=1471304004571

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I looked at your screenshots. It looks like your installation of KB 3172729 went correctly. You don’t talke of any problems.

If your question is how to prevent updates in the future – with Windows 10 Home it’s easy if you have a Wi-Fi connection, but difficult if you have a hard-wired connection. See

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3053701/microsoft-windows/block-windows-10-forced-updates-without-breaking-your-machine-part-2.html

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many thanks for prompt reply

I use only WiFi

(KB3176493) now shows the date of 1/1/1601

It may happened when I disabled the automatic update service ( I also did run wushowhide & configureAutomatic update) I lost the track

the last restart was on 9 August and KB 3172729 date of installation is 10 August 16

shall I uninstall it- I am worried that if I restart will have problems…

Cheers

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KB3176493 has caused one user to not be able to print more than two documents in a program called Print Boss. Uninstalling the update corrupted the default printer’s driver, but a reinstall of the print driver has it printing multiple pages without issue once again. Microsoft really needs to fix this!

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After installing update KB3167679 our users cannot change their passwords. They get the message of

“The system detected a possible attempt to compromise security. Please ensure that you can contact the server that authenticated you.”

Soon as we remove this update, they are able to change their passwords.

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There’s a discussion of the problem, with Samba, here:

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/6ae0b2d5-da14-4a63-8175-5e7f889b2adf/kb3167679-breaks-password-changing-on-win7-joined-in-nt-style-domain-samba-3623?forum=w7itpronetworking

Not sure if that applies to you.

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I am having difficulties with the MS16-095 patch update. Our Nessus scan results keep picking up machines that we’ve deployed the update to as lacking the update. Although when I log onto these machines, I see that the update are installed. The scan results keep increasing for this particular vulnerability. Any idea why? I usually use BIGFIX for deploying the patches and even tried manually installing the patches but the patch is already installed. I really need assistance with this one as it’s really frustrating.

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No idea. This is a good one for patchmanagement.org …

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There are several “questionable” updates from August, that I have seen no information on. KB3167679 is one of them.

It would also help when an update is referenced, which OS the posters are referring to (e.g. Win 7/8/8.1/10, Vista).

KB3161102 is another one that nothing more has been seen on. Both of these are seen on my Win 7 updates.

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KB3167679 is fine unless you’re on an enterprise network.

KB3161102 has a minor bug that you’re unlikely to encounter.

https://www.askwoody.com/2016/reported-problem-with-kb-3161102-the-windows-journal-zapper/

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@Woody: Thank you!

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