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    I’ve been living under a rock.  Or rather missed the announcement.  I spotted online a discussion about the potential removal of snipping tool in a fu
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #211870

      I will be sorry to see its demise, if its going to be a “Store App” you know its fuss free operation days are over alas. Its nearly a “Daily Driver” in work and posting in here as so often a “Screen Snip” or a picture is worth a thousand Words. I suspect that whatever M$ is basing this rationale on for removing it from the OS is flawed as surely the all “snooping” Telemetry must be telling them its used and used frequently by lots of folk.

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      • #211885

        Telemetry should tell them that, if Microsoft actually bothers to review the telemetry they take. I’m not entirely convinced they do.

        However, a review of store traffic also tells them a sizeable portion of their users do not visit the store. An eager go-getter may think their is some overlap in these numbers.

        [begin tone deaf brainstorm session] It is so terribly sad these users have not found the benefit of our store. How can we introduce them to the quality experience they could enjoy by getting all their required needs through our store? I know, we will take away one of the most useful widgets used daily and force them to find it in the store. They will thank us for introducing them to the added value found in our store. None of them will find third party solutions instead. Nor will any of them feel abused by the additional hurdle set in their way. [cheers of agreement on the brilliancy of this proposed plan, meeting breaks for a well deserved meal]

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      • #212316

        I suspect that whatever M$ is basing this rationale on for removing it from the OS is flawed as surely the all “snooping” Telemetry must be telling them its used and used frequently by lots of folk.

        I think that its popularity is exactly why they want to remove it and replace it with something you have to go visit the Store to get.  It’s the same reason MS first released the 8.1 upgrade through the Windows Store instead of the most logical place, Windows Update.  People are not using the Store enough, by Microsoft’s way of thinking, so MS is trying to give them a little push by making people use it if they want to keep the beloved tools they already use.  Surely no one was still laboring under the idea that Windows development is about serving the interests of the users rather than the interests of Microsoft!

         

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    • #211874

      Death by thousand cuts: everything there soon will be an extra feature – but for a fee of $/£1 apiece!

    • #211877

      I was late to the party with the snipping tool but I do use it now and like it. It’s on the toolbar on all of our new install images. Of course Microsoft will remove it. It still works and is actually a useful tool. The direction Microsoft is taking is very troubling. No regard for the consumer at all anymore.

      Red Ruffnsore

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    • #211878

      This seems to work very much like “Preview” does in Macs. I would be interested in getting it and installing it in my Windows 7, x64 machine. How can I do that, while it still is available (if not gone already)? Thanks.

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      • #211900

        This seems to work very much like “Preview” does in Macs. I would be interested in getting it and installing it in my Windows 7, x64 machine. How can I do that, while it still is available (if not gone already)? Thanks.

        You should already have it in Windows 7. Click the Start button; then in the Run field, type SNIPPING. It will find it if you do that. Right-click on it, and add it to Start, Desktop, etc., so you don’t have to search for it the next time.

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      • #211908

        @oscarcp alternatively you can find it in Start->all programs->accessories->Snipping Tool as @mrjimphelps suggests pin it to the start menu (I do) for easy access, you can add right click functionality to “Snip” the screen if you use Winaero Tweaker, alas I tried “Snipping the Snip” Tool here and its location in the Start menu and it wont let me, must be shy or know’s its days are numbered. lol 😉

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    • #211876

      Greenshot and ShareX are open source that are decent replacement for the snipping tool

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      • #211883

        Thanks, but I would like, nevertheless, to know how to get this particular tool and install it. Please, look again at my question here: #211878 Thanks again.

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        • #211904

          Thanks, MrJimPhelps!

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      • #212638

        Currently using Lightshot which i like, i will be trying out Sharex and seeing what that’s like.

    • #211881

      Supposedly now they’re not going to remove it.
      https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-screen-snipping-tool-microsoft-gives-it-a-new-name-adds-delay-feature/

      However, the company noted in a blog that despite that earlier warning the message Snipping Tool actually wouldn’t be removed and that it wanted feedback on the Screen Sketch app.

      I use ShareX (and formerly used Greenshot) instead of the Snipping Tool, just because the drawing/text capabilities are awesome and work wonders for making IT documentation. 🙂

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      • #211972

        I’m convinced Microsoft will back off on yanking the snipping tool. Too many people know how to use it, and it works fine.

        I, too, use ShareX. And for the books I use Snagit. Both vastly superior to the Snipping Tool – but that’s no reason to yank it, or replace it with a UWP app.

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    • #211888

      I think it was Noel or PKCano that has mentioned irfanview before. This is what I have always used and is my default picture app on all Windows 10 installs. A few extra steps to copy and paste but works fine.

      Red Ruffnsore

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    • #211890

      Snipping Tool is one of the handiest tools Microsoft has ever produced. Who got the “bright” idea to remove it from Windows?

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    • #211903

      It’s not happening this year, and there will be at least five different ways to start its replacement.

      • #211934

        This may be true. Accept as given.

        But I remain baffled why one minute of productive time and effort needed to be expended on removing a useful feature, forcing many minutes of effort from every affected user to rectify back to the same prior condition. A lot of useless friction developed for no discernible gain.

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      • #211955

        Do you know what they are going to replace it with?

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    • #211914

      hopefully they give an option for businesses to add it.

    • #211916

      Am I the only Windows 7 user who’d never even heard of “snipping tool” until I saw this article?

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      • #211929

        Seff: Join the club…

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        • #211943

          Me Three… I entered “Snipping Tool” on my Win8.1 Start screen & an option came up. I clicked on it & it showed up in the Desktop. Don’t really need it, since if I wanted to use Firefox Screenshots (Beta), I could.

          Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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      • #211933

        You have been missing out.  Windows 10 snipping tool supports printing, Win7 you have to cut and paste to Word or paint.  But if you want quick and dirty grab of a screen, nothing is better or faster.

        Until Microsoft kills is that is…

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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        • #211936

          I imagine that it also will be possible to use the snipping tool to paste and cut pictures to PowerPoint? I mostly do cutting and pasting  and reframing of found pictures and screen shots, etc. to Word and to PowerPoint. I am still using for that in my PC running Windows 7, x64, the “MS Picture Manager” application of xp vintage.

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          • #211938

            Yes, you can cut and paste anywhere.  To word, excel, etc.  The major difference between 7 and 10 is that 10 you can send the snip to a printer, 7 you cannot.

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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            • #211945

              Personally, I’d be lost without my snipping tool. But then I have no problem printing my Win7 snips – they open in my antique Windows Photo Viewer and print out beautifully.

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            • #211970

              Thanks for reminding me about Windows Photo Viewer. In Win8.1, you cannot find it as an option when you click on the down arrow on the Start screen to list Apps. Neither can you find ‘Windows Photo Viewer’ in a search from the Start screen.

              Yet in the Desktop, if you click on File Explorer on the Taskbar, then double-click the Pictures folder, then double-click an image, it appears in Windows Photo Viewer.

              Now if it brings it up in the Photos app, bring up the Charms bar (if you haven’t deactivated it), click Settings, then at the bottom, click ‘Change PC settings’. The app comes up, then click ‘Search and apps’ on the left-hand side. Click ‘Defaults’ & click on ‘Photos’ under ‘Photo viewer’. One should be ‘Windows Photo Viewer’. Click it, then either arrow back or close the PC settings app when the title bar appears at the top. The directions in the 2nd paragraph should work.

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      • #211966

        I had heard the name but I never tried it, thinking I already knew the keyboard shortcut to capture a window and then paste it in Paint to select a subset and then copy it where I wanted. I didn’t feel I needed a program for that. Then I tried it today and I must admit it is pretty neat. The ability to directly select a portion of the screen is nice. I was just a bit disappointed to not find any CTRL or ALT or SHIFT key holding would help keeping a straight line when highlighting like in image editors. Maybe there is a way, but I didn’t find it with a short trial and error.

        • #211967

          Still writing from the Mac (something going on requires my using it) so I have another question about the snipping tool: can one adjust the DPI of the copy?

          Thanks.

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      • #212205

        You are not the only one, Seff.  I had it demonstrated to me at a public library a few years ago when the visiting computer expert, who was there to teach a class, assisted me in using their scanner to scan a photo from an old book and then email to me.  She implied that it was part of Windows 7 but that was all I retained.  I have been wishing ever since I knew more.  And it was right here on demand!

        I have been using Print Screen as a workaround.  MS Paint will accept a Paste of the image copied in Print Screen and will then allow you to save it in one of several formats, including .TIF, which the snip tool does not.  It can then be edited in your picture viewer.  But Print Screen copies at whatever your screen resolution is, which in my case is 1920 x 1200 pixels.  This can prove to be inadequate for some uses.  It would nice to know what resolution the Snip Tool uses.

         

    • #211935

      You can find M$’s version on how to use Snipping Tool here and you can find its location in Win7 pretty much all versions below its present in Win’s 8.1 and 10 again all vers. Courtesy of Heatware.com for the image
      Link to source for HowTo’s here https://www.heatware.net/windows-7/capture-screenshots-in-windows-7-using-the-snipping-tool/
      Used many times if you don’t want to show the whole desktop or just the relative bits “One Picture often is worth more than a Thousand Words”.Previous article in May

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    • #211947

      I think it was Noel or PKCano that has mentioned irfanview before. This is what I have always used and is my default picture app on all Windows 10 installs. A few extra steps to copy and paste but works fine

      I was not aware that Irfanview could do this — just tried it and it works fine. Win 7 snipping tool is a great tool. it is a pity that M$ cannot see this. They are on a slippery slope to oblivion if they keep this up. I have just installed Linux Mint 19 over the weekend — just looking around……….

      mbhelwig

      • #212044

        There are various screen capture tools in Linux Mint, but I like Shutter…you can find it in the Software Manager or Synaptic. There’s also Screen Recorder, which works for recording Video Clips, just select around the borders!

    • #211948

      I’ve used it a few times in Windows 8 and Windows 10 only until I got Gadwin Printscreen 4.7 installed on a new computer.  I’ve used Gadwin Printscreen for at least 15 years and never upgraded past version 4.7 (newer versions had an awful GUI).

      GadwinPrintscreen

      I’ve used Irfanview, of course, but I think Gadwin is much better.  A main lack (to me) in Snip tool is it is harder to organize your files of clips.  That can be set up easily in Gadwin.  Snip does let you use Paint like tools right there when captured which, if you use Gadwin, you have to open the screenshot in MSPaint.  I rarely need to do that so Gadwin’s ability to organize all the screenshots is more important to me.  But I’m glad to hear Microsoft is not getting rid of it.  I had to use Snip for a screenshot of Gadwin Printscreen GUI. 😉

      • #211988

        I too used Gadwin for a lot of years, and I also stuck with the older version because of the GUI changes.  Eventually, I switched to GreenShot.  I had it set to dump a screenshot (the entire screen, not the active window or a selected portion) to a .png file, without any sort of interaction required after PrintScreen is pressed.  If I need a fraction of the screenshot, it only takes a second to open the picture in the picture viewer (to make sure it is the right one), right-click and Open With Paint.NET, then select the area, then crop to selection.  I’d rather do it in two stages… the screenshot file will sit there and wait for me to edit it.  Usually, if I am screen-shooting something, it’s because I am doing something with the PC, and I’d rather finish that and then worry about the cropping than to do it up front, right in the middle of whatever task I am trying to do.

        Windows 8.1 and 10 have the ability to do this type of screenshot without a third party utility.  Simply press Win + Printscreen, and the screen will be saved into the Pictures directory.  I still used Gadwin/ Greenshot, as I was using Metro Blocker, and that prevented Win + Printscreen from working.  I also wanted the hotkey to be just Printscreen, not a two-key combo.

         

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    • #211951

      On Windows 10, I always use the shortcut keys. Windows+Shift+S. Everyone I show that to loves it.

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    • #211963

      I believe that the Snipping Tool first appeared in Vista.

      One of the things I do whenever I install a ‘new’ application or program is to go through all the menus (via Start, and internal) and see what all is there. Do I remember all these? not by a long shot; but something goes into my brain’s tickler file and I later can go on an exploratory search for ‘that function’.
      Start > All Programs > Accessories > [items and sub-folders] have some good stuff.

    • #211980

      In the days I had to work for a wage it was indispensable for compiling instructions. The only shortcoming for my use was drop-downs and popups that closed when focus changed to Snipping Tool.

      Another useful tool for similar work is the Steps Recorder. It takes a little more effort to learn but can be handy for either instructions or showing people what goes wrong as you run a program.  Or an aid if you plan to resolve an issue yourself via web search (e.g. recording information contains version information, correct names and error number).

      In windows 10, click start and type PSR and enter to open the application. Note that the menu has an option to pause, which can evade the result being a mind-boggling quantity of images and text).

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    • #211987

      What’s the big deal? Why are people so frantic to use MS’s snipping tool, when there are far better, free snipping tools out there.

      https://picpick.app/en/

      The free version offers tons of features, and there are no ads.

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    • #212004

      I don’t use the snipping tool very often, but when I need it it is invaluable, so I will miss it. (I am still on Win 7, but will have to replace the PCs  soon so will be forced onto 10). It is good that there are alternatives, but why remove a simple utility  that is already there?

      Chris
      Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

    • #212015

      Snipping Tool is one of the handiest tools Microsoft has ever produced. Who got the “bright” idea to remove it from Windows?

      shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
      Hopefully they don’t read anything here.

      I use it all the time.
      I save my snips to either my pictures, or to word pad.
      I’m able to print them from either place.

      I’m hesitant to say I’m using Windows 7.
      They better not mess it up with an update!!

       

       

    • #212026

      Renamed “Snip & Sketch”. It is in the latest Skip Ahead build(s). Evolving as an app. Likely to be changes before the general public sees it. Does not yet support printing from the app. Uses the Windows 10 sharing mode. Can be started with printscreen (a setting in Settings | Ease of Access | Keyboard) or Win+shift+S or searching with the Windows key and then typing snip. Can be pinned to start and/or task bar. It is a store app. The good part about being a store app is that features and fixes are not dependent on a Windows release.  If you want features or changes use the Feedback Hub.

      Yes, the snipping tool is still there but unless something drastic changes it will disappear.

       

      --Joe

    • #212016

      I use the Snipping Tool.  Every. Single Day.

      It is pinned to my dock and start menu.

      I make screenshots for vendor support so that my tech vendors know exactly what I’m saying is happening and don’t have to ask questions (unless they’re Level 1 Microsoft support, who either don’t read, or are composed of AI bots).

      I make screenshots for end-user documentation, which I do on a regular basis.

      It is a normal part of my IT job, and unlike something like SnagIt!, it’s free.

      If Microsoft removes it, I will be beyond peeved.  I have used it since Windows 7, and I *don’t* use the Microsoft Store unless I have no choice at all.  This app is small and takes so little to maintain.

      *sigh*

    • #212017

      Its no stupid fumble, but fully intentional, no doubt. Its not a design but a policy decision. Another push by Microsoft to enforce love for its unloved appstore/Windows10/enforced update/whateverelseyouname.

      If you don’t like ’em, they’ll make ya. Typically Microsoft these days.

      Marc

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    • #212022

      microsoft is doing everything for making windows 10 even more unappealing as it is already…

      i’m still using windows 7 on my main computer and i won’t change this. the next computer i’ll have to purchase, won’t be a pc anymore. because pcs are designed for windows 10 and windows 10 is no-go. i’ll have no other option than purchasing a rich man’s mac.

    • #212039

      The Snipping Tool is convenient and basic and always there.  Of course there are much better tools.  Greenshot (Free) and Snagit (Pay) are superior, but not everyone has them, so having the Snipping Tool available for support sure is convenient.

      What I find interesting is that Microsoft removes useful things (Snipping Tool) but keeps trying to shove time wasters (Candy Crush) down our throats.

      If Microsoft is going to remove functionality, I would like to see a stripped down version of Pro or Enterprise with nothing but Control Panel and File Manager.  This would make Windows lean, light and fast.

      That’s my two cents.

    • #212045

      I switched to the Snipping Tool with Windows 10, when a graphics suite that I had used for years was no longer compatible with this OS.

      I found the MS Snipping Tool to be a very convenient replacement for the screen capture tool that I was used to.

      Microsoft Store disabled here, and local account user only!  So that won’t be an option for me!

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

    • #212043

      The Snipping Tool is one of the main reasons I like 7 better than XP. If it goes away in 10 that just adds to the long list of reasons to stick with 7.

    • #212074

      How dare Microsoft announce three months ago that they intend to update a 16-year-old utility with additional functionality in a year’s time?

      (“… gives you all of the functionality of the Snipping Tool with additional improvements.“)

      We don’t want no stinkin’ improvements!

      </sarcasm>

      • #212157

        And what would be the difficulty with offering an improvement in place?

        Absurd hypothetical absurdity: Your car is stolen out of your driveway in the wee hours. After you have done all the usual necessary activities to adapt to your new found environment, reporting and obtaining alternative transportation, you arrive at the office and find a helpful message. “I had your car picked up for service this morning. It will be improved for your convenience. But it will not be delivered. You will have to go to the dealership to pick it up. Oh, not the local dealer, they couldn’t do the work and had a driver take it to the next town over so it could be done right. But really this is all done for your convenience. Hope you’re not upset by any inconvenience. I mean, we told you about this a year and a half ago.”

        And note that at the top of this comment, I used the word offering. Offer the user an improvement, and allow them to say “Yes, please. I like that new item.” It yields far more good will than take and force to adapt.

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      • #212315

        How dare Microsoft announce three months ago that they intend to update a 16-year-old utility with additional functionality in a year’s time? (“… gives you all of the functionality of the Snipping Tool with additional improvements.“) We don’t want no stinkin’ improvements!

        I remember Microsoft claiming that Windows 10 was “the best Windows ever,” which means they consider it an improvement over previous versions.  If that’s what is meant by “improvements,” we really don’t want no stinkin’ improvements. Windows 10 is so much “improved” that it prompted me to quit Windows (mostly, with the rest of the way a work in progress) and leave the OS I have been using for 28 years behind.  Aside from virtual machines, of course, which I hope is not going to be necessary forever (if everything’s in the cloud, what difference does it make what I use to get there?).

        This new thing is clearly a UWP “app,” judging from the screenshot, and I understand it’s to be downloadable from the Microsoft store?  Either one of those alone makes it very much not an improvement, regardless of how many bells and whistles they try to add to it.  My Windows 8.1 setups have no “apps” anymore, Store included, and the last time I ran 10 on a real machine, it didn’t either.  (“Apps” means anything UWP or Metro/Modern/TIFKAM, of course.)  These “apps” haven’t become any more welcome since that time.

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      • #212715

        How dare Microsoft announce three months ago that they intend to update a 16-year-old utility with additional functionality in a year’s time?

        If that’s what they do, then I would agree with you, b.

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    • #212077

      Microsoft would probably question why you think getting it from the Microsoft Store should be considered its demise. Don’t get me wrong; I won’t be visiting their store any time soon.

      For what it’s worth, I have always used a free-for-private-use 3rd party application IrfanView to (among other things) do screen grabs. It has some VERY nice features, such as the ability to capture anything from your entire desktop to the content of the client area of your application to a specified rectangle of the screen by pixel addresses. Note all the places you can send the pixels.

      One of my favorite features is the ability to repeatedly capture the screen on timed intervals. That can be good for having it watch a Windows Update while you go get coffee.

      Just start IrfanView and press C (for capture) to set it up:

      IrfanViewScreenGrabOptions

      Once started it minimizes to your TaskBar. Press the hot key you have chosen to do the capture(s). It makes a sound when it grabs the pixels.

      In answer to your question, Susan, I won’t miss the demise of the Snipping Tool at all, since I already have something better.

      -Noel

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      • #212093

        Thanks. The timed feature would be tremendously useful.

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      • #212149

        For the vast majority of my user base they never go to the Microsoft store.  For me it’s YAPTWHTM (yet another password that we have to manage).  I would much prefer a native tool that

        1. works

        2. works already well

        3. doesn’t need a Microsoft account to be installed or updated

        4. the patching of said tool would be with the operating system patches

        5.  the “upgrade” isn’t a downgrade.  The current snip and sketch does not include a print function.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

        • #212196

          There would be no problems with getting things from MS if they listened and used the feedback from any of their customers to the extent necessary for, in a timely way, fix and improve the applications accordingly.

          Which only requires to be really open to fair criticism and be truly willing to dialog with outsiders.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

        • #212447

          For the vast majority of my user base they never go to the Microsoft store. For me it’s YAPTWHTM (yet another password that we have to manage).

          If your staff have a Microsoft Work Account to use Office 365 then they don’t need a different password to access Microsoft Store.

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        • #212719

          For those of us who do desktop support, there is a definite advantage to having good native tools in Windows. Whenever you remote into a user’s PC, you need to have good workable tools to use on their computer. That’s why (I’m dating myself here) I made myself learn and use EDLIN – it was available on EVERY computer I supported. Later, I learned EDIT for the same reason. And although Wordpad and Paint aren’t best-in-class programs, they are good things to learn because they are native Windows programs – they are on every version of Windows you will ever encounter these days.

          Not everyone will have Irfanview on their computer; but EVERYONE, from Windows 7 forward, will have Snipping Tool. For now.

          By the way, in case the replacement for Snipping Tool isn’t up to snuff, and you are in a must-have situation (e.g. fixing someone’s computer), you can snip the old-fashioned way: Hit <ALT>-<Print Screen>; open Paint; hit Paste; select the part of the screen print that you want, and hit Crop. That’s the sort of thing you need to be reasonably good at when you support lots of different computers, because you simply never know what will be available on a user’s computer.

          Group "L" (Linux Mint)
          with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
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    • #212171

      It seems as though Microsoft is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. For many years I’ve heard criticism of various utility programs being included with/in Windows and then not being able to have significant updates until Windows is updated. Patches had to wait until the next patch Tuesday. I understand the reluctance to use the Microsoft Store but to me that sure seems like a good way to release and support these types of programs. It removes extraneous code not really required for the correct operation of Windows from the Windows code base and makes Windows patches smaller.

      I’m confident that the Snip & Sketch tool will be included as one of many Store apps released with Windows.

      --Joe

      • #212188

        Fair words, and good points. I agree as far as this goes. There is however, a difficulty in how the function is valued. And it splits in two directions.

        If this is a necessary function, important to many users, then stripping it out is viewed as a loss of function. If the only option is to go ‘purchase’ at no cost a replacement from the store, then you have made this product equal in value to all the solutions offered by your competition. The more individuals find solutions from other vendors, the less they will view your product line as the premier option.

        If this is not a necessary function, then stop tweaking it altogether. There are plenty other issues that need to be addressed. Leave this small market to others while you work on what is important.

        I ask where on the sliding scale does the necessary divide fall? Is cut-and-paste itself a concept that is not necessary? There could be a truly lean operating system if we just remove graphic interface elements altogether. Useability be darned.

        I do not believe this is about reducing bloat.

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    • #212190

      Microsoft don’t half put out some c***, but the Snipping Tool is one of the best things they’ve ever made. Simple, and works. Now they want to make it an “app”, just to force you to use the store…lol. They never learn.

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    • #212202

      What’s the big deal? Why are people so frantic to use MS’s snipping tool, when there are far better, free snipping tools out there.

      Perhaps they already have programs to do all the additional functions?

      One of the problems of modern software is feature bloat. Microsoft’s Windows is an example. Ironically, Snipping Tool is probably one of the many things that could have been omitted from the operating system.  However, it is there and (obvious from the comments in this thread), the simple Snipping Tool is popular.

      To me it makes more sense to  put the replacement in the store for those who think they need a ‘loaded with additional features’ option.  Those who like simple now get it with Snipping Tool. Those who want the new feature loaded alternative can get it. Those who prefer alternatives don’t lose as much disk space to another example of Microsoft Windows bloatware.

      Group A (but Telemetry disabled Tasks and Registry)
      1) Dell Inspiron with Win 11 64 Home permanently in dock due to "sorry spares no longer made".
      2) Dell Inspiron with Win 11 64 Home (substantial discount with Pro version available only at full price)

    • #212291

      I’d never heard of snipping tool either, looked for it only to find it’s not on W7 starter. I’ve always used Lightshot and found it to be pretty good and has all the options I need.

    • #212540

      I’d never heard of snipping tool either, looked for it only to find it’s not on W7 starter. I’ve always used Lightshot and found it to be pretty good and has all the options I need.

      Win7 Starter however, is such a cut-down OS, and was only intended for netbooks (now dead and gone) and such low-end computers that they were too cheap to bundle Windows 7 Home Premium.  It’s really not a good comparison, as it was only available as an OEM product (you couldn’t buy it separately).

      • #212629

        I’ve used lightshot for years, it’s great. Netbooks are far from dead and gone – I still use one and it is running well, others I know also have held on to them and use them often.

        • #212637

          Me too, i need some windows software for my work and my w7 netbook fits nicely in my backpack. I’m so glad i kept it,  i have w10 on a laptop but that’s just too big for my everyday needs and due to financial constraints i won’t be buying anything new soon. It may old now but it’s been a little work horse for me.

    • #212658

      I think it was Noel or PKCano that has mentioned irfanview before. This is what I have always used and is my default picture app on all Windows 10 installs. A few extra steps to copy and paste but works fine.

      FYI Irfanview is only free for personal or non-commercial use. I’ve been a long-time user (15 years?) and baked it into our Win7 images years back (when we still baked software into the images) before realizing the licensing. I’ve since replaced it with nomacs.

    • #212661

      Most of my company knows how to use Snipping Tool but we also install Lightshot as part of our base configuration. It’s a better tool most of the time. I do still use Snipping Tool, though, when I want to temporarily screenshot something without having to save it. All the 3rd party tools i’ve seen function like Lightshot does- Printscreen > make selection > do action aka save/copy/print, then the selection/tool disappears. I like that Snipping Tool stays up as a window so I can reference the content for a few minutes without saving and then close it when no longer needed.

      I tried ShareX and Greenshot and didn’t like them as much as LS, which is super lightweight.

    • #212670

      If you need to capture a Drop-dn list, they usually Disappear when you Clk something like Snipping Tool. Don’t forget — ALT + PrintScreen can capture that, Snipping Tool can “crop” even a smaller area if desired, and Paint.net can mark it up with arrows and text.

      ShareX is robust for a Free app BUT its Hot Key config hijacked my Alt+PrintScreen use and opened it each time. Could have re-defined, I’m sure, but now I know it’s there.

      W10 Pro 22H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / Macrium Pd vX / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU = 0

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