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Earlier today two things happened. Thing one: Panos Panay was named in charge of Windows both in terms of hardware and software. The second thing oc
[See the full post at: Patch Lady – Panos we need transparency]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
By way of background, from zdnet.com:
Microsoft to combine its Windows client and hardware teams under Chief Product Officer Panos Panay
It’s reorg day in Microsoft’s Experiences and Devices unit. Here’s what’s happening, including what’s happening with Windows client and Surface.
By Mary Jo Foley | February 5, 2020
The biggest and boldest move in the Feb. 5 reorg being announced internally today involves the Windows Experience (client) and the hardware teams. Microsoft is going to roll up these two businesses into a single team, known as Windows and Devices — reporting to Chief Product Officer Panos Panay, I’ve confirmed with a person familiar with the changes who asked not to be named. The move takes effect on Feb. 25.
Corporate Vice President Joe Belfiore, who currently heads the Windows Experience business under Jha, is going to move over to the Office side of the house. Belfiore and Ales Holecek will be leading the Office Experience Group (OXO) team as a product/engineering team. Belfiore will continue to lead EPIC (Essential Products Inclusive Community), which includes the mobile apps on Android and iOS and Microsoft News.
Susan Bradley said:
An entry in wikipedia now list Office 365 as a browser hijacker.
Just checked & apparently all references to “Office 365” have been scrubbed. The Wikipedia page was last edited:
This page was last edited on 5 February 2020, at 22:29 (UTC).
I guess Panos Panay has read your post Susan.
Win7 - PRO & Ultimate, x64 & x86
Win8.1 - PRO, x64 & x86
Groups A, B & ABS
I read Susan’s post this morning & clicked the Wikipedia link. Searches for “Office 365” & “Microsoft Office” came up empty, so the info was scrubbed. At least by a Micro$oft fan, if not by a paid minion. I’ll leave the “troll” interpretation to others…
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
Wild Bill Rides Again...
An entry in wikipedia now list Office 365 as a browser hijacker. It saddens me to see that. This isn’t how software should be written and deployed. And this REALLY isn’t how Microsoft should be deploying software in 2020.
yeah, some troll is removing this entry although it’s the truth. i guess, this troll is employee at microsoft or at least paid by microsoft.
PC: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, Group B
Notebook: Windows 8.1, 64bit, Group B
Panos Panay from the Berklee School of Music. Oh well I guess he could give us a sympathetic rendering of Nearer My God to Thee as the good ship Microsoft flounders from one lee shore to another. Seriously, it appears to me that no matter what managerial team MS plonked into Windows 10, things have generally not improved. Case in point the current Search debarcle. Managerial musical chairs is not the answer. IMO just STOP – and get whatever is on the go running correctly. Then leave everything be for an extended period – no more fancy updates, no more trying to keep up with the Googles, no more of anything at all. Just let the data dust settle and concentrate on the “existing version” of Windows 10. If MS were to do this I would be more than pleased. Instead month after month I waste countless hours chasing buggy updates. Maybe, just maybe, since version 3.1 it’s time for this 73 year oldtimer to find an alternative to MS which is no longer the pleasure it once was. Amen and pass the spuds.
Panos Panay from the Berklee School of Music.
No, not that one, but his cousin:
“His first cousin, also named Panos Panay, is an executive at Microsoft.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panos_Panay
Thank you for standing up for us frustrated Windows 10 users, Susan! It’s evident that Microsoft doesn’t listen to the smallest and weakest of its customers, so we need prominent faces like you to remind Microsoft that they have a responsibility for keeping their software safe and secure.
At this point, having a choice between a Microsoft product and a competitor’s I go with the competitor due to our experience with Windows 10 and Office 365.
Thank you, both @SB and @Woody for this.
Fat lot of good it will do, but I tweeted both Susan’s article and Woody’s ComputerWorld article to Panay discussing the frustration and pain of thousands of IT admins around the globe (if not more). It has been 4-5 years since I have seen good QA coming out of Redmond with Windows (and to a degree, Office), and Microsoft has been entirely apathetic at best, and deaf at worst.
I hope that “changes gonna come” -but I’m not holding my breath. Still, I thank you for expressing the frustration we all share with more weight than those of us also behind enemy lines.
We are SysAdmins.
We walk in the wiring closets no others will enter.
We stand on the bridge, and no malware may pass.
We engage in support, we do not retreat.
We live for the LAN.
We die for the LAN.
See Liam Tung’s take on Susan’s call, here on ZDNet.
That may be so…but right now, I’m trying to reach anyone who listens.
During Ballmer years (no matter how anyone feels about him), I had engagement. Microsoft TechNet Briefings held here in town. Demonstrating new product, but also people who listened to the admins who showed up, and had the ability to relay concerns, or needs. A group of Microsoft folks who liked the tech folks in my (300k in a county of 1mil) city and who kept their finger on the pulse.
I haven’t seen that in the Nadella years. I’ve heard silence, and seen a Microsoft whose rush to embrace new tech has displayed a decidedly reticent attitude towards those who keep their platform running on a day-to-day basis. It seems sometime as if Microsoft’s long-term goal is to become a very large, very badly-managed MSP that replaces IT deparrtments as a whole. Having worked with Microsoft at the (extremely painful) Level I and the somewhat better but harder-to-get-to Level II, I don’t see that going well.
It’s harder to manage systems where it’s clear the vendor doesn’t really care about the clients, and is surviving on monopoly inertia. I can easily see the difference in quality in this area from my other partner vendors and Microsoft and it pains me, because IT admins *want* to be evangelists for Microsoft like they once were, but are finding it difficult to be more than “yeah, that’s what people use” themselves.
We are SysAdmins.
We walk in the wiring closets no others will enter.
We stand on the bridge, and no malware may pass.
We engage in support, we do not retreat.
We live for the LAN.
We die for the LAN.
“Someone at Microsoft told me recently that it’s a little bit like how a Linux distribution is composed…. you’ve got the “Linux kernel”, which is done by the Linus Torvalds and the kernel team…. and then the shell and user interface, which is done by Ubuntu.”
I’m not going to knock Microsoft for trying to emulate the Linux model, but there’s a real problem doing this with closed source software (and possibly turning the culture around at Redmond).
I hope Microsoft takes this to heart, and there are some positive things happening there, but until they listen and respond to their users, it’s going to be a mess. I know there are proprietary things in Windows, but perhaps they need to start getting rid of as much as possible and really go to a more open source model, as well as being more accountable and open to users. We’ll see.
I wish MS would actually do more of what they suggest their large business clients do.
While reading the MS page about this Bing Search “browser hijacker” for Office 365 ProPlus users (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployoffice/microsoft-search-bing), I came across the following sentence:
“If you decide to deploy Microsoft Search in Bing in your organization, we recommend that you at least send an email to your users to explain the reason behind the upcoming change…” Hmmm…
An just below that is a link to some tools that businesses could use to “ensure adoption” which included the following advice:
“Understand what your users need and want. When it comes to finding information and getting answers, knowing your user’s needs and pain points is key.” Hmmm, again….
Physician, heal thyself, I say.
Win10 Pro x64 22H2, Win10 Home 22H2, Linux Mint + a cat with 'tortitude'.
Windows 10 Warning: Anger At Microsoft Rises With Serious New Failure
By Gordon Kelly | Feb 6, 2020
(EDITORS’ PICK | 242,039 views)
Windows 10 may now be essential but users new and old have had a rough ride in recent weeks. And it has just gotten a lot worse after a new, high-profile Windows 10 failure has left more questions than answers and some seriously angry users.
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Popular Microsoft pundit Woody Leonard led the charge, writing: “If you believe that yesterday’s worldwide crash of Windows 10 Search was caused by a bad third-party fiber provider, I have a bridge to sell you.”
In an open letter to new Windows head Panos Panay, Susan ‘Patch Lady’ Bradley was similarly sceptical, noting that today “we all found out that our local search boxes are somehow dependent on some service working at Microsoft.” She attacked the company for a lack of transparency and gave it a maximum ‘Pinocchio score’ for a lack of trust.
Read the full article here
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