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Patch Lady here – and not tracking any major issues with the September updates so I’ll probably flip them to go ahead and install (for us corporate pa
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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“Microsoft will be deploying and managing business desktops”

That ranks right up there with trusting your white mice with your friend’s pet python!

With most of my clients asking me to find ways to STOP using Microsoft products, and the fact they all PAY EXTRA when buying their computers and servers to get support upgrades to avoid foreign tech support, the thought of letting Microsoft take over complete control of their computing infrastructure seems ludicrous.  On top of that, it has been well over 10 years since I spoke to a Microsoft support person that was American.  It is always overseas-based tech support I must suffer through when calling Microsoft for help, and the quality of the help is usually quite poor.

I also can’t help but wonder how this could ever be HIPAA compliant.  But that aside, who in their right mind wants Microsoft managing the platform that has access to their data?

I can’t say I share Susan’s optimism that this will help Microsoft to see how to better manage the entire Windows update mess.  More than likely it will just be the next level of devolving service from Microsoft as they continue their slow but steady destruction as a brand.  Don’t let the short term gains in gross profits fool you.  As more and more companies start choking on the price of staying with this monster, alternative solutions will be found.

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lanceboil, BobbyB, Cybertooth, Klaas Vaak, Fred

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@anonymous:

…… alternative solutions will be found.

Not least of which may well be Linux.

1x Linux Mint 19.1 | 1x Linux antiX

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lanceboil, Cybertooth

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@susan_bradley, you wrote in your post that

I think Microsoft themselves needs to understand better the state of patching today.

and that

Microsoft will see first hand that servicing systems is like and I’m looking forward to changes made as a result.

With all due respect, Susan–honestly, four years into public development of the current OS and three years after general release, if Microsoft still doesn’t have an adequate idea of what Windows 10 patching is like, they never will.

 

Keep Running Windows 7 Safely for Years to Come  
Make Windows 10 look and work like Windows 7

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I’m with Susan on this one. Or at least I’m hopeful.

Perhaps The Powers That Be will listen to their own folks when they complain about the current insane breakneck pace of upgrades (with few if any improvements), and the astoundingly low quality of patches.

One can always hope.

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Elly, PhotM, BobbyB

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Hmm, I’m not convinced that “teaching old dogs new tricks” will ever work with Microsoft but we can live in hope I guess (maybe).

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Susan, you make an excellent point when you say that finally Microsoft will be in the trenches themselves, and so perhaps they will see the sad state of affairs with regard to Windows patches and updates.

But Microsoft is sadly mistaken if they believe that remote support will be all that is needed in the corporate world. Customers aren’t going to want to provide their own technical support, on the phone with Microsoft; neither are they going to want to have to bring their corporate computer to their local Microsoft store for exchange. Microsoft has absolutely no experience doing corporate desktop support. They will have to contract out their desktop support to someone like IBM if they want to have any hope of succeeding here. And there is no way that IBM will agree to deploy and support only Microsoft equipment.

Is Microsoft planning on deploying that wonderful piece of junk, the Surface Pro? Good luck making any money supporting the Surface Pro. They will lose a lot of money on that device alone.

Apparently Microsoft came up with this grand idea without consulting with any actual desktop support people. They have no clue what they are getting themselves into.

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with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server

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Sometimes I wonder if having so many issues with patches, even for an old stable system like Windows 7 is part of an evil plan to make people think they have no choice but to delegate the task of maintenance to Microsoft.

In any case, I don’t think anybody can defend the idea that having a constantly modified OS is the way to a stable, more reliable, more secure experience. It just does defy logic to think otherwise. WaaS is the best way to open the door to a better competitor.

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…Or just to make running the old system seem incrementally more irritating.

It doesn’t seem like a good business model. But I guess it’s harder to make the new thing seem indispensable since they did so much good work in the past that’s hard to top.

With the size of their market, it’s not hard to imagine the phrase “it’s a game of percentages” having been uttered in the halls of Microsoft Marketing.

-Noel

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AlexEiffel

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Testing of the September patches on my Windows 7 test VM and Windows 7 hardware system… So far, no problems seen.

Testing on my Windows 10 test VM. So far, no problems seen.

-Noel

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Hi Patch Lady

19/09 and I’ve gotten patched and Borked on a Surface Pro 18% install of September Cumulative Patches. I’d already stopped patches locally for 30days and purged c:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution hopefully for a re-released patch
NB patches sourced directly from Microsoft.

This is after patching on the 11th so out of band maybe

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I’m not tracking issues with September updates to warrant a re-release.  What issues did you have?

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Win7 SP1 x64 Intel G3220 Haswell chip and off-brand machine; stopped at DotNet 4.7 (to run EMET 5.52); LibreOfc, Ffox/Seamonkey/Tbird/Brave/Opera browser usages, genlly avoid M$ extra software; Oracle VBox for virtual machine. Group B patching since Woody started doing it.
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2 nites ago, installed 9-2018 Secur only kb4457145-x64; then that month’s IE 11 patch kb4457426; then the supplemental/”new” IE 11 patch kb4463376. Rebooted after each, before installing next one. Result? It just hums right along; no perceived probs. With a known exploit out there, doable by viewing a photo in a browser, it seems wise to patch promptly. HTH. And I still can never thank Josh Mayfield enough, for his GWX control panel software, every time I read you all’s travails with the latest probs. in Win 10. And also BTW, Linux Mint is, indeed, looking lately like the one, if not Win 8.1, when Win 7 goes out of support. Thanks again to *Mr. Jim Phelps* and all. Best to all…..

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