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.As noted in https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4103718/windows-7-update-kb4103718 and in https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4103712
[See the full post at: Patch Lady – KB4103718 /KB4103712 known issues]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Seems to not be an issue for me on Win7 with KB4103718 installed.
What network drivers do they mean? Ethernet? Wi-Fi? Bluetooth? VPNs?
Is installing an older version a solution?
What about built-in network drivers that are included? They will keep installing and failing after you remove them?
Why is Microsoft less and less descriptive? I swear there’s more technical stuff about Windows 98SE than Windows 10 on their pages…ok, that’s an exagerration 
NIC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_interface_controller
…and as a side note, I, too have noticed the info on these situations getting less verbose over the years.
I really do wish that, also, that “…and will provide a status update when the investigation is complete,” also included an estimated date when they think they’ll have a fix. I mean, the second question I always got asked was, “OK, how long is it going to take to fix it?” (“Captain, I can’t get her going for at least three hours!” “I need it in 10 minutes.”” OK, OK, I’ll try and make it 20.” 
That’s a “known unknown” (groan), but anything might be helpful.
Back to my wishing well.
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330 ("The Tank"), Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Newbie
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"The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty
Why is Microsoft less and less descriptive?
I’m imagining several reasons:
1. They don’t want you being self-sufficient when they want to be firmly in charge of your computer.
2. It’s much easier not to document something than to document it, and apparently no one in Microsoft management really cares any more.
-Noel
I am Group B Windows 7 64 bit and I don’t think May updates seem that important so I might bypass altogether. It ain’t broke so why mess with it theory.
Microsoft just continues to amaze me and not in a very good way. 
KB4103718 is not a .NET update. It is the 2018-05 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7
Well, another month in 2018, and another potentially serious problem in a Windows 7 update. Why does a security update try to uninstall the Network driver and actively prevent its reinstallation? How can such a bug slip by undetected?
Seems to me that my Windows 7 x64 systems will have to stay unpatched for at least another month.
For me, it is obvious Microsoft now does little or no testing itself, and no longer cares about the quality of the security patches, ever since Nadella fired its testing department back in 2014. Otherwise how can problems that can have potentially serious consequences occur so regularly?
Mr. Nadella, if your company no longer wants to keep to your promise of patching Windows 7 until January 2020, please just come out and say so. Why make users suffer with your half-hearted “support” and “fixes” repeatedly?
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
…
Mr. Nadella, if your company no longer wants to keep to your promise of patching Windows 7 until January 2020, please just come out and say so. Why make users suffer with your half-hearted “support” and “fixes” repeatedly?
Your plea resonates with me, and many others I’m sure. The difficulty of course is that openly admitting it creates an actionable liability; but willful voluntary incidental incompetence can be explained away.
I rolled back my most used boxes to Dec 2017..was hoping May would be problem free so I could get up to date…looks like June or July. The patches are WAY MORE RISKY than the threats to someone who uses multi-layer anti-malware and practices safe computing, IMO.
Recently switched to Quad9 security filtered DNS https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/New-Quad9-Dns-Service-Blocks-Malicious-Domains-For-Everyone/
to help block the bad guys…no problems on 6 pc’s.
I’ve duly tested install of both KB4103718 & KB4103712 with absolutely no network issues @ static IPs set but the issues of dwm.exe those I’m monthly reporting here from Jan2018 still persist and it’s confirmed to be beyond of NVidia drivers’ version and/or performance.
Details are here – when issues are same:
Even more details & debugging results are here:
No any solution is found so far so KB4103718 removed and put to hidden list as below pic:
Rgds,
P.S. I believe we need an update of Desktop & Session Manager Service to be adjusted to perform in new messy environment of Spectre/Meltdown etc protection, and a proper way of heap management.
So is anybody here happens to know a right webpage/email to complain to m$ directly?
Thanks.
P.P.S. BTW, where is May preview rollup? Now is a 3rd Tuesday of month, right?
Your safest bet is to wait until Woody changes the MS-DEFCON level to 3 (at the top of each page). We are currently at level 2 as of 15th May. (patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don’t do it.)
For what it’s worth, (.01) the language on the info site for 103718 seems to have been abridged, more terse; now reads,
“Microsoft is presently investigating and will provide a status update when the investigation is complete.”
A bit less vague, but could mean the heat is being turned up, or it’s snowing in an unlikely place.
I know, back to my wishing well. I can dream, can’t I?
Old song :”I’m a dreamer, aren’t we all?…..and I’m a fool, but aren’t we all?”
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330 ("The Tank"), Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Newbie
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"The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty
DEFCON applies to all versions of Windows. Group A and Group B.
Again, I know.
Just wanted to get some attention for the ‘prodigal son’ Windows 7 at the verge of being devoured by its false younger sybling
BTW, it would not be the first time I install an update before DEFCON 3 because of multiple positive outcomes from fellow loungers. (Call me stupid)
I always appreciate those that have the technical know-how to recover from any problems they may encounter… who do the testing for the rest of us…
Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter
Thanks, @Elly. But I won’t take the compliment, as I only dive into the deep with a backup at hand. Till now I never encountered problems that I couldn’t undo, but I’m no technician.
‘Googel’ says it resets the TCP/IP stack.
However, dear anonymous, we do appreciate a little explaining about how you found out / how you tested this. KB 4103718 or KB 4103712??
Thanks
P.S. Actually, the command is “netsh_i_i_r_r” (where _ is a space), not anonymous’ “netsh i i rr”.
Microsoft recently has removed any issues with network drivers for May Monthly Rollup and security-only update.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4103718/windows-7-update-kb4103718/
My question: were NIC issues corrected silently or insufficient information to identify the problem?
KB4103718 has been updated today to remove any reference to the NIC driver issue. No explanation. Nothing!
Thanks for the heads up!
Lack of info? The explanation is simple:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
(John Banner was a jewel…)
Now, who’s going to be first to install this “fixed” baby…’cause “I don’ play dat game no mo!”
No, my days of cramming the stick forward at full throttle are over.
Patch Lady? Woody? Anyone want to take a dive in the old reactor pool? *|p
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330 ("The Tank"), Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Newbie
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"The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty
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