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    Just the other day some of my fellow geeks were asking where people went to ask questions.  We lamented that it was getting harder and harder to find
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2302429

      When I have to dial 911, I go to Spiceworks or Stack Exchange.

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    • #2302433

      Related? Snip from Google News / Technology Section / Full Coverage
      MSOutages
      Mary Jo Foley:
      https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-cloud-services-outages-continue-into-week-two/

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    • #2302436

      Earlier today Google Technology News was featuring an article on ZDNet that claimed MS Cloud Services outages “continue into week two” and Fox was reporting “Major Outlook outage causing nationwide email outages”. Maybe MS have their hands full with that? All hands on deck, or some such?

    • #2302430

      With all of that, and 6+ hours of Microsoft 365 Outlook/Exchange outages today, surely they must have received attack(s) of some description. It all seems way beyond “normal”.

    • #2302459

      What, you meant Microsoft’s vaunted “AI” wasn’t able to help all these people?

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    • #2302492

      My Office 2010, installed on my computer, still works. And the Office 2016 on my Mac also.

      Thunderbird still delivers my mail routinely.

      All my data on my C: drive is reachable 24/7.

      Amazing!

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    • #2302521

      India is being hit pretty hard lately with COVID-19. With working conditions as they are, I suspect their call centers are also impacted.

      Just my 2 cents.

      Byte me!

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    • #2302538

      As one who is just old enough to remember working in the “Mainframe Cloud”, I am constantly reminded as to why the arrival of the Personal Computer revolution felt so extremely liberating at the time.

      When I read about events like this, it feels like Deja Vu all over again. We learned nothing.

      /rant

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      • #2302550

        Time Share Option was effective only during off-peak hours.

        On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
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        • #2302561

          Spent way too much quality time supporting CICS on hundreds of in-house green-screen IBM terminals. In addition, there was a network of remote terminals and printers running on 4800 baud bi-sync modems all over the US. I can still remember chapter and verse of the systems programming for the communications servers which enabled this network.

          I have never had any desire to relive that experience.

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    • #2302597

      Our approach to using outside consumer support is to avoid it by keeping things simple.

      We purchase HP business laptops and workstations because they have proven to be reliable.

      Each of our computers operates as standardized standalone unit that is frequently backed up.

      We do not use cloud-based applications and only use cloud based storage to share files with our people who are working remotely.

      We minimize the amount of software that is installed on each machine – MS Office, WordPerfect, Firefox, Acronis, MathWorks, and the utilities provided by the computers manufacturer or other widely recognized, mature apps.

      Updates are installed consistent with guidance provided by the ask Woody website, i.e. Windows 10 updates wait about 29 days before installation – likewise MS office updates. Other updates are installed when pushed by the software manufacturer.

      Internet use is restricted to business related email, data collection, and web surfing is restricted to well-known business-related websites such as the New York Times, Bloomberg, BBC, and well-recognized and time proven trade and government organizations. No Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.

      If things do go bump in the night, we try to recover the computer from a restore point, then the backup on the machine’s second drive, and then recovery from an external drive. If all else fails we pull a backup machine off the shelf, update it with files recovered from one of the failed machine’s backup drives. Then we take failed machine and try a fresh Windows install, run diagnostics, recover the lost applications, and if all is well put the recovered machine back on the shelf so that it is available for the next PC failure.

      If we cannot recover a bad machine, and it is not covered by warranty, we simply order a new computer, configure it, and put it on the shelf as a backup. If it is covered by a warranty that provides on-site support we call the vendor let them worry about fixing it.

      This approach works for us. It results in a minimal amount of time waiting for someone to answer a customer service call, and saves us a undetermined amount of time trying to tweak a misbehaving computer.

      In the end it all comes down to cost-benefit, sometimes it is simply less expensive not to fix a misbehaving machine and replace it.

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    • #2302618

      That’s one reason we come here.  Former MS employees and retiree’s  and  MS aficionados  are on this site. MS themselves probably monitor this site for info they can make use of.

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    • #2303054

      Was also wondering if this issue was related to the potential of customers contacting Microsoft about their cloud service problems? Probably goes a bit deeper than what Microsoft admits too. It does seem nobody wants to admit that cloud services has its share of drawbacks. Because it is so centralized and interconnected when it goes down, it really can go down.

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    • #2303056

      The *only* reason I’m still using Windows Home edition is that I’ve a long, succesful history of computer knowledge. Microsoft’s ‘consumer’ support is worse that abysmal. But I don’t care to exert the effort to think of adjectives more bacterial than that. The next time I change my OS might be to Apple’s desktops and laptops.

      Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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