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Microfix spotted in the catalog a catalog only patch to test for the ability to accept extended support patches for Windows 7. The update https://supp
[See the full post at: Patch Lady – 7 patches are getting prepared]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Windows 7 Security Monthly Quality Rollups have had the KB2952664 functionality (Compatibility Appraiser) included since Sept. 2018. Rollups are cumulative. KB4519976 is a Rollup
Just a guess, but I doubt MS would give away anything for free. There has to be a caveat.
I think Group B and updating will part ways after Jan 14th unless there is consent to (try to ) block the telemetry.
I guess one can always go in and ensure you disable the tasks that turn on telemetry?
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I set the script up as a scheduled task to run on startup as per @abbodi86 ‘s AKB2000012.
Automate! I have a good memory, but it’s just not very long. 🙂
The great thing about all this is that Windows 7 will still be supported by other software for at least 3 years or longer. For me this is more important than the Microsoft patches.
For ordinary users the browser is the main defense surface.
the newly released Malwarebytes 4.0 version is a prime example in that it will still support Windows 7 as they confirmed they are not abandoning Windows 7 anytime soon:
from this topic:
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/253227-announcing-malwarebytes-40-for-windows/
Which Operating Systems does Malwarebytes 4 support?
Malwarebytes 4 supports Windows 7 SP1 or newer.We continue to support legacy XP and Vista with our Legacy version, you may download the latest available version for XP and Vista by clicking here.
Even though Malwarebytes does not recommend running operating systems that Microsoft no longer supports, we have no current plans of ending or phasing out in any form our support for Windows 7. This means that going forward, and until further notice, we will continue to support Windows 7 as we have up to this point.
Here’s what qualifies for Extended Support OS wise.
The monthly Rollups, of which KB451997 is one, have had telemetry (KB2952664 functionality) baked in since Sept 2018.
So – Windows 7 Home is not included in this at all? Seems that they said that they would offer support for “any size” businesses – so why wouldn’t all versions of Win 7 be included? And what qualifies as a business? A freelance writing business can be run on Win 7 Home so why wouldn’t that “count” I wonder.
Pro and Enterprise are business. Home and Ultimate are Consumer, ie, not business.
Thanks! So I guess the only alternative right now for those with Home or Ultimate is 0Patch that Woody mentioned a while back. Guess I’ll look into it.
But too bad really – if “business” is limited to those two versions. I’m sure there are many running Win 10 Pro who do not have a business who will be eligible for the extended support, but those who may have a legitimate business, but not Pro, aren’t.
Wonder if there will eventually be a way around that?
The Rollups have been cumulative since October 2016.
Security Monthly Quality Rollups are for Group A (contain telemetry).
Group B installs the Security Only Quality Update, which has not contained telemetry (except for July and September of 2019).
KB4519976 is the October 2019 Rollup (Group A).
Food for thought:
Win7 Home and Ultimate Editions are NOT eligible for Extended Support.
Pro Edition (and Embedded), Windows Server (and Embedded), Enterprise, and a few others are eligible for ESUs.
Microsoft is going to “test for the ability to accept extended support patches.”
Before you download and install the patch, consider the test of your copy of Windows 7.
The note is probably because Embedded 7 is still supported (without ESU) until 2021
so it doesn’t need the eligibility for now
I guess the question for domestic users with Windows 7 Home Edition is whether we can upgrade from Home to Pro and then purchase one or two Extended Support agreements (assuming most domestic users have one or two machines as an example) – and, if so, at what total cost?
I guess the question for domestic users with Windows 7 Home Edition is whether we can upgrade from Home to Pro and then purchase one or two Extended Support agreements (assuming most domestic users have one or two machines as an example) – and, if so, at what total cost?
How would one go about doing that?
As I said above:
…too bad really – if “business” is limited to those two versions [Pro and Enterprise]. I’m sure there are many running Win 10 Pro who do not have a business who will be eligible for the extended support, but those who may have a legitimate business, but not Pro, aren’t. Wonder if there will eventually be a way around that?
Hopefully there will be some way for Home users to be included in the extended patches – but time is really growing short, unfortunately.
Certainly open to suggestions!
The October ROLLUP KB4519976 is one of the required installs.
You didn’t think MS was going to give without taking back, did you? 🙂
You’d think I’d have learnt this valuable lesson by now but it seems that was the key piece of information I was missing – Microsoft’s belligerence when it comes to supporting anything their users actually want to use that isn’t riddled with ads, cloud (someone else’s computer) features or telemetry. There’s a well known phrase that says ‘if you’re not paying for the product then you are the product’ but increasingly if you do pay for the product then you’re still the product.
Yeah I’m thinking they can go *******, if they’re only offering it with telemetry.
Will see how it goes without, then move to Linux if needed, and keep my W7 purely for gaming.
Please follow the –Lounge Rules–
Man, I sure appreciate all those here who are delving into this can of worms…after reading all the requirements, MSFT’s “99 steps to Extended Support”, and the rest of what I can only describe as a turgid rigmarole, well, I have only one question:
Do they take PayPal?
<Dodges tomato>
Oh, and do you have to go through all these steps while at a crossroads at midnight holding a black cat bone?
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Seriously, thank you all, I’ll just be sitting here in my little foxhole with my helmet on until the smoke clears.
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
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"The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty
to patch Lady Susan:
I manually downloaded & tested this KB4528069 ESU update from the MS catalog site and it fails to install on a machine running “consumer” editions of Windows 7 like Home Premium and Ultimate (and no ESU key was installed)
perhaps this update only applies to those who have valid ESU keys AND they’re running either Enterprise or Pro edition of Win7
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