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    #10825

    新年快乐 (Happy New Year!) Build 14393.726 brings a totally new approach to distributing Win10 hotfixes – and I think it’s great. InfoWorld Woody on Windo
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    • #10826

      Woody,

      Would you call this a recommended patch, or at least, a patch that should be tested on a single internal production machine? What news is out there about how this patch is functioning, or is it still too early to tell?

    • #10827

      Installed with no issues so far. Took about 15 min.

    • #10828

      Much too early to tell. Unless you have one of the specific problems mentioned in the list, nope, I wouldn’t install it. Wait for the next cumulative update.

    • #10829

      It is likely to be fully functional, but I would classify it in the Optional category, unless it makes it on Windows Update.
      It is likely that it will be included in the regular CU next main Patch Tuesday on 14/01/2017.

    • #10830

      But its not what Ms sees as the best way to increase profits – force bloat and spying on the herd that it cannot get out of.

    • #10831

      Yep, and I expect the Patch Tuesday CU to include bug fixes for this CU!

    • #10832

      Woody, happy Chinese New Year 農曆新年快樂 2017.

      Please understand that not all Chinese use Simplified Chinese characters, haha. I, for one, use Traditional Chinese characters. I also run the Traditional Chinese versions of Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 / Windows 10 (10 in VM only) in additional to the English versions.

      I just install this KB3216755 onto my Windows 10 x64 LTSB 2016 virtual machine and as expected the icon text left-justified issue is still not fixed. I have lost hope of Microsoft ever fixing this issue. So disappointing. It seems to me that Microsoft just wants to drive me away from Windows. Perhaps I shall plan for such a future in the next few years.

      Woody, one question. I saw that when I set the “Configure Automatic Updates” Group Policy to “Disabled” in Windows 10 1507 or 1511, then Windows Update will no longer automatically check for updates (the Windows Update program shows “Never Check for Updates”). This together with the WUShowHide program from Microsoft gives me control over what updates to install and when to install.

      Does the same setting work in the same way for Windows 10 1607? If not, is there any way to stop Windows Update in 1607 from automatically checking updates other than disabling the Windows Update service?

    • #10833

      I have that setup on 1607, and it seems to be working fine.

      Happy New Year! Sure am glad I’m not trying to travel in Asia this weekend… but I miss the parties in Phuket.

    • #10834

      Thank you Woody. That’s good to hear.

      So at least at present there is a way to control when to install updates and which updates to install in Windows 10 (apart from the rubbish Home edition).

    • #10835

      Best way, from my point of view, is to use the Metered Connection trick.

      (I know that others around here disagree.) 🙂

    • #10836

      Why do you use wushowhide if you have the Group Policy configured?
      In Windows 1607 you will notice the same behaviour, except for the button which no longer shows Never check for updates. You might have to enable the Group Policy Remove access to use all Windows Update features in addition to the other one.

    • #10837

      In my case, it’s the old “belt and suspenders” approach. You can never be too cautious when trying to avoid automatic updating in Windows 10. As some folks around here have found out, even the 1607 upgrade update changed its number, and the only way to avoid getting it foisted on us was to run wushowhide before opening the metered connection. Group Policy settings were of little or no help. And there have been other examples.

    • #10838

      No disagreement here from me.

    • #10839

      It is the easiest way around for home users, but beyond that, using metered connections to work around updating should be seen only as a temporary implementation, in the same way with wushowhide. Eventually patches should still be implemented.

    • #10840

      Why? First when I set the Group Policy Windows Update will not check for updates itself.

      Then when I decide to install updates (at the time of my choosing) I can first use WUShowHide to see what kind of updates are offered at the time. Then any updates I don’t want installed (including any driver updates and that “Feature Upgrade to 1607” if necessary) will be hidden using WUShowHide.

      Finally when I check for updates in Windows Update it will only install the updates I have not hidden.

      This way of updating gives me control of WHAT updates to install and WHEN to install, NOT to Microsoft’s timetable.

      Verified to work on Windows 10 1507 (LTSB) / 1511 (Pro / Enterprise) / 1607 (LTSB) running in VMware virtual machines.

    • #10841

      But the metered connection trick for Ethernet connections is not available in 1607 or earlier, isn’t it? As far as I know it will be made available starting with the Creators Update.

      Or is it possible to set it using a Registry setting even in 1607 or earlier?

      http://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-ethernet-connection-metered-windows-10

      I agree it is the easiest way for normal users to block automatic updates in Windows 10. Personally I am not satisfied and I want to completely stop the automatic checking of updates. The Group Policy setting does it for me, at least for now.

    • #10842

      There are hacks that’ll let you make Ethernet connections metered, but I don’t recommend them. Best bet: buy a USB Wi-Fi adapter, or play with the other settings.

    • #10843

      Totally agree with Woody.
      Just use supported methods, unless you are interested in experimenting or if you work for organisations which are interested in that sort of implementation and your time for experimentation is paid as it goes against business required activities.
      For now, using metered connections for Wi-Fi or Group Policies are the only supported configurations to delay or even avoid completely Windows and Microsoft software Updates in Windows 10.

    • #10844

      @rc primak
      “Group Policy settings were of little or no help.”

      This is not true, but I tend to agree that Microsoft is making it difficult to find the optimal configuration.

    • #10845

      @James Bond 007

      As I understand from your post, you can actually use wushowhide to scan for updates without them getting installed automatically and at the same time bypassing the regular check for updates, by configuring Group Policy.
      Is this correct?

      Or another approach would be to set Group Polices to only check for updates or check and download without installing and next, when you see what was downloaded, you just go to wushowhide and hide what you don’t want to install or install at that time.

    • #10846

      Right now, I’m confused. In 1511 we have one “Defer upgrades” option in the UI, plus one group policy called “Defer Upgrades and Updates” (see https://4sysops.com/archives/the-new-defer-upgrades-and-update-group-policy-in-detail/ )

      In 1607, there’s one UI choice (“Defer feature updates”) and two group policies (“Select when Feature Updates are received” and “Select when Quality Updates are received”), along with changes to many other group policies associated with updating and restarting. (See https://4sysops.com/archives/disable-updates-in-windows-10-1607-anniversary-update-using-group-policy/)

      How do they interact? Which one takes precedence? And how has the effect changed between versions?

      Looks like things will be different once again in 1704.

    • #25879

      @ch100

      @James Bond 007

      As I understand from your post, you can actually use wushowhide to scan for updates without them getting installed automatically and at the same time bypassing the regular check for updates, by configuring Group Policy.
      Is this correct?

      Yes, quite correct.

      After I set the Group Policy and make sure it is activated (by temporarily disabling Windows Update service, click Check for Updates in Windows Updates (which generates an error, this is to avoid installing any update), and then reenable Windows Update service), I can then scan for updates using WUShowHide without actually installing them, and hide those updates that I don’t want.

      This procedure allows me to control which updates to install and when to install them.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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