No, Microsoft has NOT “confirmed” a new monthly charge for Win7

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I can’t believe the FUD. If you had a volume license for Windows XP, and you wanted to continue to get XP security patches after it reached end of lif
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Elly, Myst

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Aren’t those updates gonna be the same updates as Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 will keep getting until October 2021? Can’t we regular home users just install those updates and stay secure for 1,5 more years?

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You mean “Windows Embedded Standard 7”

currently, both regular 7 and Embedded 7 share the same updates
however, unlike XP updates, msu update packages and CBS servicing stack are more sophisticated
they can easily restrict the updates for certain editions, just like they are currently doing it for “Windows 8 Embedded” against support-ended “Windows 8”
and also with Windows 10 Enterprise/Education against Pro/Home

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Microfix, ch100, woody

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Sorry, no, I meant “Windows Embedded POSReady 7”, not 2009.

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It seems there are 3 flavors of Embedded 7: POSReady, Standard, ThinPC

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Is it just me or did Mr. “Hello, I must be going” make an, um, questionable gesture to his audience?

Nah, that’s the silliest thing I’ve ever hoid.

-Noel

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Well, he has to hold his cigar somehow… 😉

Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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Myst

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Maybe the later part of the thread “Extending that life cycle -again”, starting here  #216183 might also be relevant to this discussion

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Was just wondering if there was enough of a “user revolt” ala’ XP days that would make MSFT extend the life of all users of Win 7…excerpt:

“…there should be a larger fraction of PCs running Windows 7 in January 2020 than there was of Windows XP in April 2014 (34% for Windows 7, 29% for XP…”

(https://www.computerworld.com/article/3199373/windows-pcs/windows-by-the-numbers-windows-10-marches-on-but-pace-may-be-a-problem.html)

But then, that would be the right, but not profitable,  thing to do…and it’s a different company than 2014…well, I can dream.

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NTDBD  #216442 : MS will definitely have to extend the life of Win 7 embedded (in the chips of avionics controllers, for example, so some airplanes do not fall off the sky come January 2020.)

At present, it looks like one might be able to install “embedded” in a regular PC, either as is or with some hack, much like the one that still can be made in regular xp PCs to install the xp’s “embedded” updates (see, e.g., here #216183 ).  So the real question for me now, if that is really possible to do with Win 7 now, is whether MS will still make it possible to install “embedded” in Win 7 Home, Pro, Ultimate, Server — or not — come January 2020. And if they will, then for how long beyond that. Both unanswerable questions, right now. So… well, one can only guess.

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Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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Please tell me no airplane in the world runs anything based on any version of Windows…

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JCCWsusser

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The hack that wrote the article is a clickbait FUD writer of the worst kind.
I’m shocked a site still publishes his drivel, especially one of the pedigree that actually does it.

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zero2dash wrote:

The hack that wrote the article is a clickbait FUD writer of the worst kind.

Are you referring to the author of the MS first link in Woody’s blogpost?
Helping customers shift to a modern desktop
By Jared Spataro, Corporate Vice President for Office and Windows Marketing, on September 6, 2018

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Naw, I think he’s talking about the guy on Forbes – who’s drawn a lot of ire lately.

People need to keep in mind that the author of an article doesn’t necessarily write the headline.

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Yeah I was talking about Gordon Kelly at Forbes, who pushed out an article titled “Microsoft ‘Confirms’ Windows 7 New Monthly Charge”.
I didn’t want to mention him by name as he doesn’t need any more clicks – and I assumed he was the one Woody was referencing.

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Kirsty

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XP is still support by MS pay service. We got the patch for meltdown and spectre for Windows XP after paying a huge payment for it. Windows XP is still the main OS and Windows 7 is install on a few machines so will have to start pay for support for it soon it seems. Windows 10 is not in the plan for deployment because most programs do not run well on it.

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columbia2011

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Windows 7 and Office 2010 End of Support FAQ .pdf

– What editions of Windows 7 are eligible for Extended Security Updates?
Extended Security Updates are available for Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Enterprise, and Windows 7 Ultimate.

– When will the Extended Security Updates offer be available?
Extended Security Updates will be available for purchase starting April 1, 2019.

– How will Microsoft deliver Extended Security Updates?
Upon purchasing Windows 7 ESU, the organization will be provided with a MAK key, which can be used to deploy to the covered devices. This MAK key is independent of the Windows 7 activation and can work in parallel with a KMS activation deployment. Additional technical details will be provided in a TechNet article published at a later date.

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We finally got a real answer!

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More answers 🙂
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4497181/lifecycle-faq-extended-security-updates

it doesn’t mention Win7 Ultimate edition

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