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    Hello, today I went through interesting newspaper from tha past, available at this link.

    And I realized, that its still the same, no matter which year actually is.. See this page and change “NT” for “10” or “11”. Does it look familiar? 🙂

    Hope that entertains somebody, Doriel.

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    • #2382879

      “If it doesn’t have a tail it’s not a monkey, even if it has a monkey kind of shape. If it doesn’t have a tail, it’s not a monkey. If it doesn’t have a tail it’s not a monkey, it’s an ape.”

      I guess that’s from something called Veggietales, which I had never heard of before. Heard the rhyme a while ago, but just now looked it up to see where it originated.

      Of course, the above only refers to primates!

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    • #2382950

      This being “Fun Stuff” …

      https://untamedscience.com/biodiversity/barbary-macaque/

      Barbary macaques are unique in that they lack a tail. For this reason we often hear them referred to as Barbary “apes,” even though they really are monkeys. (True apes include gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos, gibbons, and humans.)

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    • #2383108

      Although I never used it myself, I’ve heard that Windows NT was the most secure MS OS of its day.

      Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
      • #2383164

        Charlie, windows NT came out in the early 1990’s, when malware and various kinds of attacks over the Internet still were a novelty and much less of a problem than it has become ever since. So comparing NT to today’s Windows (which is still a version of NT), without specifying the release, is not a very revealing thing to do.
        From a Google search right sidebar:

        ” Windows NT is a proprietary graphical operating system produced by Microsoft, the first version of which was released on July 27, 1993. It is a processor-independent, multiprocessing and multi-user operating system.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT

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        • #2383521

          NT was used mainly on business networks where people on the network were most likely more of a worry than attacks from the Internet at that time.

          Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
          • #2383534

            Charlie, Not just in business networks: It was also used by many government organizations. I first came across it back in the nineties, when working on a Navy project.

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            • #2383642

              Yeah, I meant to put government in there too.  Thanks.

              Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2383215

      Putting Win10 in place of NT of this vintage advertising blurb, it would definitely free you up to worry about what’s left of your job.

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      • #2383510

        You are kidding of course.

        Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2383536

      Saying that Windows 10 is the safest OS begs the question: compared to what?

      The only other OS with some presence at all in the home/business mass market are Linux and macOS (formerly OS X). Both are “safer” than Windows version-X  (any number you care to replace X with), but that is, to a great extent, because their small market share makes them not very interesting to those who develop, sell, buy and use malware to make ours lives more interesting, so they are subject to fewer attacks. It could be that, regardless of how many users it has, there is some operating system that is essentially safer than Windows, but which one, if any, and how could we know that?

      I think any claim that some OS is the “safest” is most likely just marketing white noise.

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      • #2383624

        Saying that Windows 10 is the safest OS begs the question: compared to what?

        I think any claim that some OS is the “safest” is most likely just marketing white noise.

        Did anyone say that?

        • #2383683

          Charlie mentioned it: #2383108

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          • #2383800

            He didn’t talk about Windows 10, or any claim by an OS company.

      • #2383888

        I think any claim that some OS is the “safest” is most likely just marketing white noise.

        Exactly. Thats the point of this Topic. Its just makreting phrase, that has not change in 20 years and still there is no such thing as safe OS. And never will be.

        Relative terms like “safest”, “fastest”, “nicest” are tricks for confusing people.

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    • #2383647

      Soon Windows 11 will be the safest operating system available – but very few people will use it since it won’t run on their computer kit…

      Yes, a form of “security by obscurity”!

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    • #2383699

      From most of the comments I’ve read here at Askwoody, Win 10 may be secure from most things  except the dingbats at Microsoft itself.  It’s secure but it doesn’t work well under all conditions. This will most likely apply to Win 11 too.

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      • #2383712

        As with a new version of any OS, Windows 11 will probably be worse initially, until it has had enough bugs fixed and kinks ironed out — and the users have figured out their way around those that remain — for 11 to finally become more or less usable and useful …

        Then there is the constant tinkering at MS with patches, good and bad, and frequent incremental upgrades.  So, to the previous statement, the appropriate ending is: … if ever.

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        • #2383882

          I agree, what I dont understand is why they came with another OS in the first place. Windows 10 are beginning to be good, finally. So why they introdiced the same OS with different UI? I just cant understand that.

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    • #2383732

      Windows 11 will probably be worse initially

      Compared to what?

      cheers, Paul

      • #2383799

        Win 10 – see Susan Bradley’s topic “MS-DEFCON 2: Get ready for battle stations”, which mainly applies to Win 10.  Most recent MS OS’es had their bugs worked out by the time they were five to six years old.  I don’t ever remember there being a topic called “Get ready for battle stations” before Win 10 and its many iterations.

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      • #2383853

        Paul_T: Compared to Windows 10. At last initially, because such is always the case immediately after a major OS upgrade, regardless of OS. As I have already explained in this thread, apparently not clearly enough.

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    • #2383802

      Saying that Windows 10 is the safest OS begs the question: compared to what?

      Microsoft never claimed that Windows 10 is the safest OS. Microsoft ALWAYS claim that the new Windows is the safest Windows OS (compared to the last version).

      • #2383852

        Thanks, Alex. For the record: I did not write that MS claimed that Win 10 was the safest of all  OS, I was replying to Charlie, who though he had seen someone, somewhere, making such a claim.

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        • #2383897

          https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows

          I did not write that MS claimed that Win 10 was the safest of all OS, I was replying to Charlie, who though he had seen someone, somewhere, making such a claim.

          Oh yes, they do. Look at my post HERE.

          They changed the text, but yes they did claim that! Look at attached picture.

          I think they do more than that:

          The best Windows ever keeps getting better.
          Now more than ever PCs are more powerful and innovative—just like Windows 10.
          Most-popular PC gaming platform on the planet.
          All-encompassing security included.

          Superlatives all around. Makreting, marketing, marketing. People will use Windows anyway, even if those proclamations did not exist.

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        • #2383989

          For the record: I did not write that MS claimed that Win 10 was the safest of all  OS, I was replying to Charlie, who though he had seen someone, somewhere, making such a claim.

          He didn’t say that.

    • #2384063

      As long as we’re doing “for the records”, in Report #2383108 I said that I heard that Win NT was the most secure MS OS (Microsoft Operating System) at that time.  I’m pretty sure I heard this from my brother who worked for Microsoft in the 1990’s.

      Also, when Myst posted #2383215, I replied with “You’re kidding of course”, to which there was no reply from Myst as to whether he or she was joking or being serious.

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      • #2384080

        Charlie, Sorry, I meant to write “NT” but it came out as “10”. (That is considered to be the current iteration of “NT”, to add to this confusion, but this one, not my doing.)

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