New KB article: How to back up Windows Live Mail

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I moved to Thunderbird last year. I had Windows Live Mail for as long as it has been available and decided I wanted to stay with a client based email. I exported all my mail from WLM using instructions provided by Thunderbird. I lost nothing and I really like TB.

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This may be somewhat off the point, but has anybody figured out how to back up Outlook contacts? (M.O. 2010). I’d be very grateful to find a way!

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I don’t have Outlook, so I’m going to give you info that I tucked away in my memory (and that’s getting shorter – pensioner for 19yrs).
By default Outlook stores contacts in the .pst file located in a hidden folder C:\Users\YourID\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook. You can choose another folder location, so yours may not be there. The info about where it’s located should be under Tools\Accounts in the Outlook menu. In that case, you back up the .pst file – it will be huge b/c it also contains e-mail.

The other option, instead of Outlook Contacts, you can choose for it to use Windows Contacts. Those are located C:\Users\YourID\Contacts. There will be one file for each contact.

Again, if memory serves, the info is going to be under the Accounts Settings in Outlook. If memory is failing, someone here will come along and straighten me out.

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Many thanks for these tips. I will play around.

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Does anyone have a link for the full offline installer for Windows Live Mail 2011? All the ones I have tried say the file “could not be downloaded”. I am using a fully up to date version of Win7 64bit Home on this computer and I wonder if a recent update is blocking this file as Microsoft officially ceased support for Windows Live on (from memory) 17 Jan 2017?

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JohnR

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Does anyone have a link for the full offline installer for Windows Live Mail 2011?

I looked around yesterday at downloading Live Mail installers. The only thing I could find was what you’re finding–*On line installers* that go out to Microsoft to get the needed *bits*.

But, 2011 Live Mail has been *obsoleted* by Microsoft–so you will get an installation failure because Microsoft will not send what you are requesting.

You can only get what Microsoft currently supports!

NightOwl

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JohnR wrote:

Does anyone have a link for the full offline installer for Windows Live Mail 2011?

Windows Live Essentials 2011, of which WLM was a part, was replaced by Windows Live Essentials 2012. I don’t think you can get it from M$ anymore. If you download it from somewhere else, be sure the site you download from is trusted b/c there may be infected “copies” out there now.

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@ NightOwl – Sorry about duplication of messages – I seem to have registered twice!! Anyway I was actually looking for an offline installer that does not need to go back to Microsoft for more files – they do exist because I found one a long time ago for WLM 2009. This installer worked with the internet disconnected so I know it was the complete bundle of files. I just wanted a similar offline installer for WLM 2011 if anyone has a link. I don’t have a link any more for the WLM 2009 files unfortunately.

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JohnR

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Anyway I was actually looking for an offline installer that does not need to go back to Microsoft for more files – they do exist because I found one a long time ago for WLM 2009.

I understand what you are saying. I too was looking for that *offline* installer option.

But, it sure looks like Microsoft has done a good job of scrubbing the internet of any such options.

Let’s see if anyone has any ideas here.

(By the way–for the record, when a company has scrubbed the internet of a program that people are still looking for, it’s a ripe opportunity for *bad folks* to post malicious software online hoping someone is desperate enough to download and install it–even though it’s not really the program that is stated–it’s easy to list a program as, for instance, *Windows Live Mail 2011–Offline Installer*! Don’t ask, but I know from experience…… So be careful out there!)

NightOwl

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JohnR

JohnR wrote:

Sorry about duplication of messages – I seem to have registered twice!!

I have removed your duplicate Reply and my initial response, being as they both revealed an email address that you may not have wanted to share with the public.

NightOwl

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JohnR wrote:

Anyway I was actually looking for an offline installer that does not need to go back to Microsoft for more files – they do exist because I found one a long time ago for WLM 2009. This installer worked with the internet disconnected so I know it was the complete bundle of files. I just wanted a similar offline installer for WLM 2011 if anyone has a link. I don’t have a link any more for the WLM 2009 files unfortunately.

You’ll have to search for the versions of your interest: 14.0.8117.416 (2009), 15.4.3555.308 (2011) or 16.4.3528.331 (2012).
If you want the 2011 installer, for instance, just type the following terms on your preferred search engine:

wlsetup-all.exe 15.4.3555.308

Most of the results are in English, but if you need the installer in a different language, just add it to your search terms.
Be extra-careful if the files are from unofficial sources (scan them with an antivirus). The 2012 installers are still on-line on Microsoft’s site:
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe
(Change the “EN” part of the address if you need the installer in a different language.)

And after downloading any file, right-click on it, select Properties from the drop-down list, click on the Details tab and check if version and language are correct.

Hope this helps.

César

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Just thought I would let you know that I have installed Windows Live Mail 2012 on Win10 build 15025 (now magically 15031 as of this morning) using the installer fron Microsoft and it seems to work OK. Thanks for the link!

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IF, it does not, you will need to import your mail and contacts and will lose your accoun setup(s) and calendar

Options > email accounts > export

This way you can export your account setup, also.

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I have found one problem with .CSV files. How the data is entered in the contact is how it comes out in the .CSV (that sounds stupid, I know). But if you enter the “display as “LastName, FirstName” you end up with an unintentional delimiter and the info translates strange. So commas should be eliminated from the entry before you sace to the .CSV

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I wish I had the Live Mail (Windows 7 HDD client not the Cloud version) info when I used it.

I have moved to Thunderbird with Lightning as an MS Office Outlook backup on my primary machine since Outlook has gotten so restrictive on remote content and most emails from vendors are unreadable due to no images. I cannot find the setting to modify the exclusions. Designating them as safe senders does nothing.

I also use it with Lightning on my Linux devices. I greatly prefer an e-mail client on the HDD. My ISP account has a web-based portal, and on the primary devices, I have T-bird and Outlook set to leave mail on the server. Every other day I fire up the backup machine and download the email. That machine is set to remove the mail from the server. Since I have email on the iPhone, I will use that also to daily cull junk and non-critical e-mail and empty the spam folders.

Export of your MS Office Outlook contacts list is not hard if you follow the directions, but matching up the fields on IMPORT to Thunderbird, if you really use Outlook as a contact ‘rolodex’ takes patience and sometimes a number of tries. They are EASY to import, but getting the right field in the right boxes was a trial and error for me, as was the sort order. My solution was to get up, relax, watch some TV and think about it, and then retry. I finally decided to slim down the data field since some of the data was no longer necessary. I do have a backed up CSV file (and a contacts.pst file) of the full fields.

If you have a dual boot Win/Linux system or devices with different OSs, it is very easy to move your Thunderbird accounts to one or the other. The trick is to access the instructions for Thunderbird from both operating systems as there is a few small, but critical differences. The Linux instructions tell where the data is for Linux, and the Windows does the same, but neither do both.

Once you do it, it is very, very easy. When I set up my wife’s Ubuntu Linux on a Thinkpad, it took under 10 minutes and she had everything exactly as before, including settings, etc.

The potential bad news is I have read are reports were that Mozilla.org was thinking of abandoning Thunderbird. I have not seen that lately.

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