New “419” scam involves PayPal and Western Union

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	TOP STORY New “419” scam involves PayPal and Western Union
	By Woody Leonhard There’s a new variation on the old “Nigerian” or “419” scam, one that invokes the names of PayPal, Western Union, and the FBI — and the scammers are raking in billions. Let me introduce you to the way these scum operate — and show you a few tricks that may keep you from adding to their booty.

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Another variation is the seller is paid via Paypal for the goods, the goods are delivered, the purchaser then demands and gets a refund from the sellers Paypal account. The seller then has no goods or money with the purchaser having everything.

Generally the goods are not collected, they are delivered at the sellers expense, usually overseas.

This is quite common in Australia for larger items, eg cars, caravans, boats, etc.

It pays to be suspicious and turn the sale down if ANYTHING is out of the ordinary.

Stevesub

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A few people have decided that if the scammers are going to send a fake payment, they can, in turn send a fake product. I think this guy did it first:
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
A long story, but very funny.

The variation on this scam is when the scammers place an ad to sell a high-priced second hand item such as a bike. The warning signs are:
1) The advertised price is well under what you would expect.
2) The seller provides only email contact details.
3) The seller is no longer in the country, (gone to the U.K, working on an oil rig etc.)
4) You can’t view the item because it has suddenly been moved from the advertised location.
5) Questions about the item go unanswered, but full details are provided on how payment can be made.
6) A local shipping company has been instructed to handle matters and all taxes are included.
7) A fake website for the shipping company may be set up.

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A few people have decided that if the scammers are going to send a fake payment, they can, in turn send a fake product. I think this guy did it first:
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
A long story, but very funny.

HA! That’s great!

The past couple of weeks I’ve been getting all sorts of scam mail from Nigeria. My guess is that these creeps are sharing email addresses, and I’m now categorized as a mark.

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Popular PayPal-related scam in Australia
Fake buyer responds to ad in online advertising space- in my daughter’s case, a car for sale
Buyer cannot come and see the car, they are (a) a marine biologist on an island or (b) a soldier in Iraq. But they want to buy the car for their son/daughter, all looks good, payment coming by PayPal.
Oops, sorry, mistakenly made too big a payment. Please refund the difference.
As payment appears to have been made, victim authorises “refund”- then not long after, payment vanishes from PayPal.

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MTN Nigeria is an off-shoot of a South African cellphone service provider. Here in South Africa, there’s increasing concern bout spam and I’m personally involved in an attempt to get my cellphone service provider to accept the responsibility that they have to protect their customers by blocking spam. In theory we have a database in South Africa into which your cellphone number can be entered to prevent such communication. It’s run by a direct marketing association, which I suggest says it all in terms of incentive to make it work properly. The fact of the matter is that both cellphone and internet service providers could stop spam if they wanted to, but they make so much money from the traffic that they won’t. As Michael Douglas aid in the movie Wall Street “Greed is Good”!?

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Woody,

Awesome article!

It’s too bad the USA can’t force WesternUnion and PayPal work harder to stop these scams. This is really no different than a local metal recycler paying people for road signs and manhole covers…that are obviously stolen. We just now are getting laws passed to try to stop this…and this is in our complete control and it’s still difficult to stop. It’s virtually impossible when another country is involved. Any money stolen from us is more money in *their* economy.

I would advise everyone *not* to try to turn the tables on the scumbags. They’ve seen it all and have way too much experienece scamming.

Thanks for the great investigation,
Randy

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There is another version circulating such this I received yesterday:-

In Microsoft Outlook 2000 (maybe the same in other versions), if I look at the email in ‘preview’, when I run the cursor over a link such as “View the details of this transaction online” in the bar at the bottom it displays the actual address that you will go to if you click. In this case it was http://silentstartupwebsite.com/xBu5dukk/index.html and so on for all the links. Easy to get sucked in! BEWARE !!!
Dennis

(PayPal logo was displayed here)

You sent a payment Transaction ID: 7G804226OQ876940D
Dear PayPal User,
You sent a payment for $971.43 USD to Robbie Riley.
Please note that it may take a little while for this payment to appear in the Recent Activity list on your Account Overview.
View the details of this transaction online

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This payment was sent using your bank account.

By using your bank account to send money, you just:

– Paid easily and securely

– Sent money faster than writing and mailing paper checks

– Paid instantly — your purchase won’t show up on bills at the end of the month.

Thanks for using your bank account!

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Your monthly account statement is available anytime; just log in to your account at https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_history. To correct any errors, please contact us through our Help Center at https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact_us.

Amount: $971.43 USD
Sent on: March 21, 2012
Payment method: Bank account
Sincerely,
PayPal

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The general rule in the UK is not to touch anything to do with Western Union. It’s a crooks’ charter to corrupt banking (as if banks aren’t bad enough).

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Although warning folks about scams and scammers is praise-worthy, there’s a danger in over-estimating the amount of money that scammers actually harvest. Understandably, no law enforcement agency or regulatory authority is going to do err on the side of understatement: jobs and funding depend on there being a real threat, and the more frequently overstated the nature of that threat, the better.

Scammers involved in 419 and similar efforts are illiterates whose efforts are as ludicrously bad now as they were way back when, but railing against them is actually like railing against the notion of the survival of the fittest: there will always be stupid people who do stupid things; and there will always be “one born every minute”.

A good piece then, Woody, and your efforts re the execrable Western Union and the utterly inert PayPal are to be applauded, but really, the transaction you chronicled would have sounded alarm bells at its earliest stages for anyone with a few functioning brain cells. Sadly, some people can be fooled all of the time. And that’s never going to change.

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Thank you for writing the piece on scammers. It gave me quite a chuckle and made me wish I could do more things like that just to let them know how stupid they are, and make them fall for a scam themselves. lol

Anyway, I wanted to respond in regards to the misspelling of words and sentence grammer. I worked for a large company who employed agents to handle anything from sales call for certain companies to online troubleshooting. While listening in on a training class I was very interested to find out how these scammers are getting away with scams and why they all haven’t been jailed yet. Well, it turns out that as long as they misplell words or use improper grammar(please excuse mine,lol), that they can use that in their defense by saying that’s not what it was suppose to say. So they get a tongue lashing or whatever and walk out laughing as they go to buy a new domain and or name.

I like to read some of them, because I find it hard to believe that there are stupid enough people around that actually believe a lot of these. What the hell are they doing “owning a computer” if they are that stupid. I’m surprised they can turn it on. lol
I worry about reading them and/or responding to some of them (just because they make me laugh so hard), but I’ve heard that if you do open the mail (not a link or attachment, I’m not that dumb), but the email itself, or if you respond to them, that that will only make matters worse because now they know it’s a valid email. Is it okay to read these, as long as we don’t open anything or acknowledge a read receipt? I’d like to be sure, because while I think this people are the worst and laziest crooks in the world, I still find some of their scams quite funny.

I hope I helped with that little tidbit of info and I look forward to any responses with regards to my queries.
Thank you,
Ray

PS. If you send me 5 bucks at my corpoorate headquaters, I will send you copies of all the ansers, your 5 dollars back, plus 2 dollars from the entrepenur that follows in your footsteps. Please keep this between us or the Canadian Mountains will shoot us dead on their horse.

ha, ha, ha, ha.

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I am moving back to England from the U.S. and therefore have been selling a bunch of items on Craigslist, Ebay, Ebid and my local virtual yardsale. I can’t remember all the different scams I have had during this process. This is only over a period of about 6 weeks so there must be literally thousands of them at it. I also have in my possession two checks, these were for the same piece of furniture that was priced at $700, one was written on the check of a Paint company in Georgia and was for $3450, (I called them and they had had quite a few calls) the second was written on a JC Penney check and was for $2000+ and the check was signed by Sarah Palin (now I really feel special).
I would say that at least 90% of the answers I’ve had to my ads have been scams. One thing they all have in common is their bad English and the same format.
Also after receiving the first scams through craigslist, I was already aware of scammers on there from friends and news comments so I decided to sell some of my furniture on ebay, saying I would only accept Paypal or cash on pickup. I didn’t realize until I suddenly thought to call them and ask, that Paypal won’t be responsible for anything that isn’t shipped by a recognized trackable shipping method, and of course to ship furniture this way would be too expensive if not impossible.
Now I put on all my ads for unmailable larger items, will only accept Cash payments on pickup. This limits my buyers but is far safer.

The following is the final e-mail from the worst scammer I personally have had. (including my reply, (which appears first) I was really fed up with them by then) I had about 15 emails from them getting progressively more threatening.

Really, enough is enough, I’ve had enough of your stupid threats, I mean come on, you don’t even speak English so I don’t know how you think anyone would be fooled by your threats.

Furthermore, I have, right from the beginning of these mailings from you, been sending them to the FBI internet fraud and also to the fraud section of ebay and paypal, who I might add all confirmed that your mailings are an attempt at fraud. I hope they catch you soon as you are what makes the internet a bad place to be.

I hope people are not gullible enough to be taken in by you but I’m afraid you probably get away with these scams more times than I care to think about. I only hope and pray it’s not too long before you’re caught.



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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:15 PM
To: shirley.baker@comcast.net
Subject: FPA NOTICE: Transaction Protection Policy Alerts!

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Dear gdogmama,
Due to the safety of all our members,we investigate all the transaction for the interest of protecting all eBay members.

This is clearly stated in eBay code of conduct “That the buyer has the legal right shipping to any preferable destination so far the shipping address is verified and confirmed by PayPal”.

The protection policies newly introduced,regarding the recent habit of many sellers failing to get item(s) shipped after receiving the money in their PayPal account.

You are recently reported to us by PayPal, for feeling reluctant following the given instruction to facilitates proper account upgrading with the available funds.

Additionally,the shipping address has been verified and confirmed to protect both the two parties.

Lastly,we have close monitoring of this transaction to avoid scamming activities as we advise you to complete the transaction immediately for the available funds to be credited to your PayPal account.
If you have re-listed the item already.Take it off because the contract binding you and the buyer has not been breached.

Failure to get the item(s) shipped to the confirmed shipping address within 24hours,could result to suspension of your both eBay and PayPal accounts respectively.
You are secured to go ahead with the postage as required within the next 24hours.

Thank you for your co-operation in this important matter.

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I am moving back to England from the U.S. and therefore have been selling a bunch of items on Craigslist, Ebay, Ebid and my local virtual yardsale. I can’t remember all the different scams I have had during this process. This is only over a period of about 6 weeks so there must be literally thousands of them at it. I also have in my possession two checks, these were for the same piece of furniture that was priced at $700, one was written on the check of a Paint company in Georgia and was for $3450, (I called them and they had had quite a few calls) the second was written on a JC Penney check and was for $2000+ and the check was signed by Sarah Palin (now I really feel special).
I would say that at least 90% of the answers I’ve had to my ads have been scams. One thing they all have in common is their bad English and the same format. . . . .

So sorry you’ve had to contend with these malevolent morons — but you’ve hit the nail on the head when it comes to scam-spotting: the imbecilic illiteracy of the scammers. It’s an aspect of this scum-life that really irritates: the seemingly implicit assumption that I’m as thick as they are when it comes to corporate as well as domestic English. (Your “eBay warning letter” is a little gem, by the way — pretty much on a par with the hilarious “scam warning” currently circulating from, ahem, the FBI, wherein the recipient is alerted to the fact that the Internet is full of scammers and that only the author of the FBI email is to be trusted. . . even if his Washington DC address seems inexplicably linked to a server in Albania.)

I find Google’s gmail server-side spam filtering to be pretty good on the whole; certainly, no scam emails have landed on my desktop via POP3. A weekly check on the webmail account shows the spam folder to have its usual quota of junk mail, albeit I also use gmail filtering (instructing gmail not to place a particular sender’s email in spam but to delete it on receipt) so the trash is fairly full, too. I empty spam and trash as and when, gmail’s allowance being way beyond the volume I need so space isn’t a consideration.

As for eBay. . . not part of your comment, I know, but it’s often the case that scammers archive images from live or recently closed listings for their own phony offerings, something of which eBay is well aware but as ever, does nothing about. It’s for that reason — when considering a major purchase — that I use TinEye, the reverse image look-up that you can either use online or, as in my case, run from your desktop.

TinEye is by no means infallible, nor does it claim to be, but a few months ago I was interested in an eBay UK listing from what appeared to be a major auto dealer, complete with pictures not only of the car but of it sitting on the dealer’s forecourt. A 30-second search by TinEye of the listing’s images tracked them to a legitimate AutoExpress used car listing for a dealer some 200 miles from the location given in the eBay auction. I notified eBay but didn’t hang around waiting for it to do anything, so have no idea if it pulled the listing or not. But I did additionally contact the original, legitimate auto dealership, and they immediately notified their local police of the attempted fraud.

Words and pictures, then: the scammers can try all they want, but as most of their potential victims can speak English infinitely better than they ever will, and as TinEye is a useful adjunct when it comes to eBay auction browsing, then most of us are pretty well insulated against their trite and tiresome ways. That many aren’t is sad but will likely always be the case: there are folks out there who not only believe there is such a thing as a free lunch, but an entirely free restaurant, too.

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Sad that it is difficult to get any real satisfaction from the companies being spoofed/abused by these scammers.

I am wondering if the F.B.I. might be interested in it since they spoof them?

I just got one of these with F.B.I. in the subject in the last couple days. Was in my spam box. Deleted as junk before I read the article. I used to do more with these stupid emails but found it was totally useless too. I still forward the ones with PayPal and eBay in them to their spoof@ emails but that’s about it. There are so many LOL! :huh:

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Ha, ha,, ha, thanks for reminding me. I’ve had serveral from the FBI scammers. I really wish there was a way to forward them to the bureau. I can’t believe that they (FBI) let this continue. Don’t they realize how bad it makes them look. The scammer’s are more or less mocking them, saying “We’re untouchable, even the famous FBI can’t touch us.”

I don’t think anybody would have a problem turning a blind eye while the FBI gathers them up and gives them their super grand prize. What I wouldn’t do to get in on that! lol

I’m getting really tired of deleting these. How come Hotmail hasn’t come up with a filter for these kind of emails? Sure would be nice.
Ray:rolleyes:

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In my opinion Western Union should be prosecuted for their complicity in a number of scams. Here’s one which requires their direct involvement:
A buyer sees a deal “too good to be true” on ebay or craigslist. Naturally they don’t want to send money overseas but the seller doesnt take paypal. So the seller suggests they send it western union but with a password so the seller cant collect without the password. When the buyer has the merchandise, he can then send the password. Sounds safe, right? The money is sent and the merchandise never arrives. The buyer contacts western union to be told the money was released without the password. WU makes all sorts of excuses. The bottom line is they pretend to offer some form of security but are actually helping the scammers in order to get a few bucks. I used to host a forum on internet safety and a number of people reported falling victim to this scam. Personally, I would never buy an expensive item from some guy on ebay who only took WU. As a buyer I would only use paypal or credit card.

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Woody, thanks for this important article and your attempts to track down the bad guys. But I disagree with this statement
“From a technical aspect, there’s little that can be done about these scams. ”

Although PayPal did a poor job of parsing your emails and responding to the content, there is a lot of existing capability for that (try writing your Congressman to see what I mean). The most likely choke point for the scam you described is gmail parent and author of awesome software, Google. It seems to me the folks at Google could intercept the vast majority of these superficially obvious scams and take some appropriate action. Even if they have some obligation(?) to send the mail they could attach some warning to it, much like an ISP might do on the receiving end.

It seems to me you should add Google to the the list of ones being alerted to this pattern of scams.

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Woody, thanks for this important article and your attempts to track down the bad guys. But I disagree with this statement
“From a technical aspect, there’s little that can be done about these scams. ”

Although PayPal did a poor job of parsing your emails and responding to the content, there is a lot of existing capability for that (try writing your Congressman to see what I mean). The most likely choke point for the scam you described is gmail parent and author of awesome software, Google. It seems to me the folks at Google could intercept the vast majority of these superficially obvious scams and take some appropriate action. Even if they have some obligation(?) to send the mail they could attach some warning to it, much like an ISP might do on the receiving end.

It seems to me you should add Google to the the list of ones being alerted to this pattern of scams.

Are you seriously suggesting that Google does or should, or even legally can, intercept all email messages, read them all for content, and filter out whatever Google deems to be fraudulent? This even exceeds the current, unacceptable level of anti-privacy policies people are howling about at Google’s Services.

Maybe I misunderstand what you have in mind?

-- rc primak

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I like to mess with these crooks just to make them waist time and I recieved a half doz or more Fedex and and postal deliveries a month for just about every type of scam there is and once I’ve wasted their time I turn anything postal over to the local postmaster as it is a federal crime as Fedex is now Mailing small packages and the Fedex envelopes with the federal postal sevices

I hate crooks and theives

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here’s my latest… gotta laugh

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Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:28 AM

Attention Beneficiary,

I am writing this mail to inform you that finally your funds has been deposited
with OCEANIC BANK and it was diverted into catch which will be sending to you
$5,000.00 daily via WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER till the full amount of
USD$2.5million USD will be complete since this will the safe and best way to
handle this transaction for security reason I took this decision because of the
so many restrictions from the security Agents while trying to send the cash to
you via courier service so all you have to do now is to contact them on this
bellow information and they will transfer your money accordingly. Note: I have
paid for the registration fee which cost me $300.

Name: Dr.Justin Ekins,
Email:( western_union6661@hotmail.com )
Phone: +2348032355690.

And do not forget to contact them with your receiving information such as,

Receiver name :………
Country:………………..
City : ……………………..
Test question………….
Answer :…………………
Telephone number :………

Contact them and let me know when you started receiving your payment.

Regards,
Ray Mathins
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but what if it’s really real…
michael clyde

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Thank you Woody for that great story and warning to others. I also had an experience with a Nigerian scammer several years ago while trying to sell a large stereo unit on Craigslist. I’d run across dozens of these in the past and recognized it as a scam right away, but I chose a different route to settle it.

All the emails in response to my ad were the same. Poor grammar, horrible punctuation and offers of large over-payments for their shipper. But this one was a bit different. He actually offered to send me a prepaid shipping label to send him the stereo. I told him the components weighed over 200 pounds ~ just a number I pulled out of the air. And he actually sent me two pre-paid labels for 150 pounds each. I took them to the post office and they verified that they were legitimate. Knowing this was a scam, I had no choice but to find 300 pounds of SOMETHING to send him as a reward for trying to rob me. So I filled two boxes with anything and everything I could find that was of absolutely NO value to anyone. Wood scraps, sawdust, empty cans, cigarette butts, shredded paper, broken glass and a few rocks and bricks for weight.

I shipped them off and waited patiently for a reply. And wouldn’t you know it, he had the nerve to send me a flaming email about how I tricked him, lied to him and how I was the scammer!! It was hilarious and so satisfying. I wasted his time and effort for weeks throughout this process and all he got for it was two boxes of crap and a shipping bill for 300 pounds to Nigeria.

I actually corresponded with him for several weeks afterward and he finally admitted he was running a scam. Saying this was his “buddys” idea and he had never done this before and would never do it again. Right! When I asked him what he would have done had I sent him the advertised item, he said he would have resold it for a profit. So if this would have gone as planned, he would have stolen my stereo, sold it for 100% profit and made even more money off the bogus Western Union payment to his shipper. More than enough to offset his cost for the shipping labels.

This happens far too often and naive Americans fall for it to the tunes of millions of dollars a years ~ conservatively. My question is WHY? Why can’t the American government do something about this epidemic trend? Is it just a coincidence that most of these scams come out of Nigeria and under Gmail accounts? Why do we have no jurisdiction over scammers that cross our borders. If it were up to me, I would block all Internet access between the United States and Nigeria until tighter control could be maintained and scammers from that country were duly prosecuted.

I hope my story gives others the ammo they need to fight against scammers and the inspiration to deal with these crooks in their own imaginative ways.

Good Luck & Surf Safe,
– Dean Rohs –

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Hi,
So I followed the instructions regarding Gmail to obtain the “message header.” Is the whole page the message header? What do I paste into the email header @ http://www.iptrackeronline.com/email-header-analysis.php to find the location of the spammer?

-Alex

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Another scam that apparently is pretty prevalent. I put my house up for sale recently. Within a couple of days of it hitting the Multiple Listing Service (MLS) I had several inquiries through my agent (wife)about renting it out. I talked via email to one of the intersted parties and after assuring him it was for sale only, he said that he found a rental listing on various websites for my property at what I would consider a below market rent. He seemed to be expecting the fact that it was a scam and I got the impression that it had happened to him before.

I went to one of the websites and found my house for rent! It was my house’s phot and everything as well as a fairly accurate description of the property and as I mentioned before, at a great deal for monthly rent. Of course I created a throw down email address and emailed the person who was “renting” it out. I got back a lengthy description of the individual and their family with the requisite thanks to God our creator for blessing them with the house and explanations about how they don’t want to sell it because they love it so and want trusting people to rent to etc. etc. Apparently he was a doctor and was going to work overseas or something. I asked what the next step was, expecting it to be that I needed to wire him a deposit amount to hold the property. I never heard back from him and never got the satisfaction of dropping the bomb that I was the actual owner and he was full of it. I am not sure what happened, but maybe he found out that I was the owner before I got the chance to ruin his plans.

The letter was pretty funny to the point of making you wonder why this guy was giving you all of this information right up fron in an initial email. The part that really irritated me  though was the address that I had to email to make the inquiry. It was “myname”@yahoo.com. So now someone else has a Yahoo email account in my name and I worry that it could be used for other scams. I never contacted Yahoo to see of they could shut it down but I doubt they would do that. Someone obviously had access to the MLS service and just trolls for new listings in order to perpetrate the scam. The sites that had the rental listing took it down immediately when I did contact them and told them that I was the legal owner. This leads me to believe that they are well aware of these types of scams as well. The take away I guess is that you can be involved in legitimate business dealings and STILL have someone attempt to scam you or involve you in a scam. You sell property on Craig’s list or Ebay and you kind of expect some funny business to some extent. You just don’t expect that a real estate deal would attract the same type of low-level, low-lifes trying to make a quick dime. That is usually the realm of the real estate agents! Sort of kidding about the real estate agents. My wife is one and we see first hand the shady dealings on that side, but that is a whole another thing!

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I thought this was a well written article. Since moving a few years back we’ve seen obviously fake ads on Craigslist for home rentals (like 2000+ Sq Ft home for $900/month rent). Turns out if you search the house address (complete with stolen picture and info) they are scraping house sale sites like Trulia, or Zillow, or Hot Pads etc.

And the one or two we looked into at first before we knew about this were the same “I had to leave the country but I’ll mail you a key in exchange for your money…” type emails.

God help us to desire integrity!

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As far as I’m concerned, Western Union is complicit in these scams because they skim 10% off the top for these transfers, so they probably make hundreds of millions on allowing this to continue. As the author observed, they have absolutely nothing in place to help prevent or track fraud, and have no interest in doing so. I personally think they should be prosecuted for this. About a year ago, they even had the gall to run a contest where you could win prizes for wiring money to Nigeria! How blatant can they be?

BTW, there are ways to do more detailed tracking of who reads your email. They can be circumvented, but only if the scammer knows to do so. Example at http://www.readnotify.com. I used that for a similar scam I received and traced it to a Florida ISP who served that address to a Nigerian internet cafe.

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I think I may have been the recipient of anther attempt to scam (they didn’t get me though!).

Received a notification – supposedly from Facebook – that said I have notifications. When I hovered my mouse over the link, no where in the like was Facebook or even FB. That in itself told me it probably was an attempt to put malware/key looger or whatever on my computer.

Love the delete key!

Paul

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Are the readers of WS really such naive folks and suckers for such obvious 419 scam. Of course not, I’m sure 99.9% of your readers are much smarter then that. Therefore this issue of WS is effectively totally worthless to 99% of your readers. You guys can do better selecting topics of real interest then 419s.

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Another thing to keep in mind about Nigeria, in case you ever decide to follow a message back to that country. Frauds are an important part of the economy, and large public conferences are held where scammers school each other and bring each other up to date on the latest techniques. Don’t imagine for a moment that anyone in Nigeria is interested in stopping this stuff. They’re proud of their scammming abilities, like we Canadians are proud of our hockey.

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When Woody says “New “419” scam involves PayPal and Western Union”, does he mean new to him?

It’s been around for years: The Old Craig’s List, PayPal, Western Union Scam (May 29, 2010)

Bruce

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When Woody says “New “419” scam involves PayPal and Western Union”, does he mean new to him?

It’s been around for years: The Old Craig’s List, PayPal, Western Union Scam (May 29, 2010)

Bruce

I think he means that this is a new variant. And that in Woody’s opinion, the scam he found was more sophisticated than the ones we all already know about. But this is just my guess.

-- rc primak

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I think he means that this is a new variant. And that in Woody’s opinion, the scam he found was more sophisticated than the ones we all already know about. But this is just my guess.

The only variant was an FBI logo on the second PayPal email.

According to Woody the height of sophistication was using an untraceable Gmail address, “But the rest of the scam was sloppy.”

Bruce

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The only variant was an FBI logo on the second PayPal email.

According to Woody the height of sophistication was using an untraceable Gmail address, “But the rest of the scam was sloppy.”

Bruce

OK, so this is the old wolf in new sheep’s clothing. Still, it’s worth repeating warnings about these scams once in awhile.

-- rc primak

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Many thanks to Woody for this excellent article! I love reading the blow-by-blow account of someone professional and knowledgeable interacting with these scammers. And I learned a new word in the process: bustard!
Best regards.

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A friend of mine was selling his car recently. He received an email supposedly from someone in the Navy who was away on a ship at the time. My friend emailed me asking if I thought it was legit. Straight away I was suspicious. In 10 secs I proved to him that the email was a fraud. All you need to do is copy the body of the email and paste it in to the Google search box and search. If you get hits then other people have received exactly the same email and the chances are that it’s a scam.

They send so many of these emails that they can’t personalize them all so the send the same one to thousands of people. If it was a legit buyer they would be writing a unique email.

Malcolm
From Devon UK – nothing to do with dodgy shippers!!

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I had a emails like this a few years ago when I was selling my handicap van on a small disabled website here. They said they would pay me the money and have the van sent to New Jersey. From there, it was being shipped to the U.K. I knew right off the bat that it was a scan. For one. They didn’t know what my selling price was nor did they seem to know what I was selling. 2 weeks later. I got the exact same email. Word for word but the name was not the same name as the 1st person’s email. I was going to try to investigate to find out who sent the emails but I kept putting it off until it was most likely too late to do anything.

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This pageshows how to extract email headers.

Open the IPTracker page and go to the email analysis section.

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This page shows how to extract email headers.

Open the IPTracker page and go to the email analysis section.

Hi Ted,
I already know how to do that. I’m asking what exactly is the message header. Is ALL the info given on the page after I select “Show Original” the message header? I’m not a computer geek, so sorry about my misunderstandings.

-Alex

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Hi Ted,
I already know how to do that. I’m asking what exactly is the message header. Is ALL the info given on the page after I select “Show Original” the message header? I’m not a computer geek, so sorry about my misunderstandings.

-Alex

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