Need new mobo for build

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CPU Pentium D 830 Socket 775
RAM DDR2 5400
HD Seagate SATA 7200 80 GB
Orig mobo was XFX MG-63MI-7109, no longer available.
450 w Thermaltake TR2 PSU (I use about 220w)
Zalman quiet HSF, don’t remember model #

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I built this about 2 years ago (not on it now,) but the mobo has died, just past the warranty. All other parts are fine, and I can’t afford anything more than a mobo anyway, pref with the same RAM. There are many charts matching a CPU to a mobo, but I’m having a tough time Googling for mobos to match a CPU, and if it’s a few years old….

1–I’m not interested in upgrading to faster, bigger or better, as the old buld is more than powerful enough
2–I’m semi-employed.
3–Other than knowing the socket #, I don’t know how to choose a mobo.
4–Max HD size is not important. After many years of computing, I have only 12 GB filled.
5–I need at least 2 PCI slots. Onboard LAN, video, or audio always dies eventually.
6–Ebay would be considered if I knew what to look for.

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I would plumb for a cheap mobo with everything on-board.

Just look through the socket 775 boards and go for something that is in your price range – like this.

cheers, Paul

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I would plumb for a cheap mobo with everything on-board.

Just look through the socket 775 boards and go for something that is in your price range – like this.

cheers, Paul

That’s in England. I’m in US.

Thank. I very rarely upgrade, keep my comps until they die, very dead. So quality for an economical price is important to me.

Does the RAM # have to match exactly if I want to use my “old” ones?

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XFX Website
Give them a call and see what they are offering as a replacement.

GOOGLE

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GOOGLE

I already did that. All the places listed in Google no longer have the board,

Have to go to work. More tonight.

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CPU Pentium D 830 Socket 775
RAM DDR2 5400
HD Seagate SATA 7200 80 GB
Orig mobo was XFX MG-63MI-7109, no longer available.
450 w Thermaltake TR2 PSU (I use about 220w)
Zalman quiet HSF, don’t remember model #

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I built this about 2 years ago (not on it now,) but the mobo has died, just past the warranty. All other parts are fine, and I can’t afford anything more than a mobo anyway, pref with the same RAM. There are many charts matching a CPU to a mobo, but I’m having a tough time Googling for mobos to match a CPU, and if it’s a few years old….

1–I’m not interested in upgrading to faster, bigger or better, as the old buld is more than powerful enough
2–I’m semi-employed.
3–Other than knowing the socket #, I don’t know how to choose a mobo.
4–Max HD size is not important. After many years of computing, I have only 12 GB filled.
5–I need at least 2 PCI slots. Onboard LAN, video, or audio always dies eventually.
6–Ebay would be considered if I knew what to look for.

RochelleP,
Have a look at Directron, and NewEgg, you can browse for “mobo’s ” by selecting CPU’s etc. I have tried this once and it really cut down the 100’s of choices to something more manageable. One other thing you should consider is that even if you find a mobo with everything that you want , it might not be the same size as the one your trying to replace (ran into that one myself) make sure that your tower will accommodate the new. Regards Fred

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Thanks for tips, I know there are thousands of boards out there. Lets narrow this down:

1–What manufacturers are best ? I don’t need a gaming board, I had XFX because it came in a kit from, pardon the expression, Tiger Direct.

2–Can I still get a board for my RAM?

3–I goofed when getting a good HSF last year for lack of correct info. Is knowing the RAM, socket and size enough?

4–I don’t know Directron, will look at Newegg tonight. Then I’ll ask here about some possible selections.[/color]

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Any board that comes from a supplier that has been around for a bit and comes with a warranty will be fine – the supplier will honour the warranty.
If the CPU socket is OK your RAM will be OK – mixing RAM is the problem, not swapping boards.
Sizes and mounts are pretty much standard.

HSF? Horribly Stuffed Flamingo?

cheers, Paul

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Any board that comes from a supplier that has been around for a bit and comes with a warranty will be fine – the supplier will honour the warranty.
If the CPU socket is OK your RAM will be OK – mixing RAM is the problem, not swapping boards.
Sizes and mounts are pretty much standard.

HSF? Horribly Stuffed Flamingo?

cheers, Paul

HSF=Heatsink and fan, which cools the CPU. (Completely Phoolish Unicorns)

PSU = Poor S—– (often) Units

BTW–I replaced the original stock PSU and HSF, and that little upgrade gave me good bang for my buck, which was still only around $300. Dell wants a minimum of $607 for an XP with shipping and tax, and when I was building it was about $500.

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Original mobo was XFX MG-63MI-7109

Based on the specs of your previous board I have come up with a list of motherboards based around form factor (MicroATX), memory standard (DDR2 800), and socket type (LGA 775). All of these should work out well enough.
It should be a simple matter of going through them and picking the feature sets that you want and discarding the rest.

From Newegg, US
Newegg is one of your better vendors in terms of product support and RMA. And it is a US based company. They offer the ability to easily compare products by way of their website design. Prices are also very competitive. I have built my last two computers with them and have been satisfied with their support and shipping.

If you provide more specific information on your RAM, like serial numbers, make, & voltages you can check for compatibility with various boards. But as PT has said it should make little difference. There should be no problems.
And considering how cheap the Quad Core LGA 775 CPU is now, I would dump that Pentium D, for one of these.

And like Fred mentioned earlier, if your case can accomodate the ATX standard you can move up from the MicroATX to the Full ATX standard and have additional choices.

Info on Form Factors
DDR2 SDRAM
Intel Socket T, LGA 775

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Original mobo was XFX MG-63MI-7109

Based on the specs of your previous board I have come up with a list of motherboards

From Newegg, US

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I’m familiar with Newegg, have bought parts there. Don’t know Directron. Is their reputation good?

And CHEAP is relative. I have other expenses, and I’m only semi-employed. I don’t need a quad core for internet and email and a little graphics editing in Paint Shop Pro. Besides, I also need an exterior backup HD, so I’m highly budgeted. Recession has hit me very hard.

RAM:
Crucial MT8HTF1864AY-667E1
1GB 1RX8 PC2-5300U-555-12-ZZ
240 Pin unbuff DIMM 256MX6

+ same in 2 GB 2RX8 PC2-5300U-555-12-E0 (zero)
[/color] Going through your list. Thanks. Will report back tomorrow.

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Clint–
I read some of the info on ATX vs. Micro-ATX, or at least about the sizes. Yes, I have a huge case, originally meant for gaming, so I really enjoy taking things in and out without removing other parts or scraping my knuckles (You gotta see the one I’m on now. A real sardine can, but not as bad as an old Dell.)

What would I usually get on that extra
2 1/2″ of board? What I really need is a second PATA slot, but I don’t think that’s what it will be.

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I’d stick with the MicroATX, they’re cheaper. You can still get all the options that you want for less than 70-80 dollars.
If your going for onboard video, make sure your video output on the board matches what you have for your monitor.
Look into this board.

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I’ve gathered my requirements:
Onboard LAN, audio, video
2-3-yr warranty
Matches my RAM
Takes Pentium D
Must accommodate VGA and flat screen monitor
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1–It’s a CRT, but I’m thinking about a flat screen within a year. Will I need a different output?

2–one you cited:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131615

What’s the weird BIOS setting that’s cited? I’ve had so much anxiety with my build that I can’t tolerate anything weird in the new mobo. I was really ready to take a hammer to the whole thing this week. I replaced the original HSF twice and it’s srill not exactly right, then started sending back the new PSU’s when actually the board was killing them. Lotta postage.

I built not because I love building but for economic reasons and because I wanted my XP again. (Don’t ask) I need something really foolproof.

3–Pentium D is not listed for some of these. If it lists Celeron, should I presume P-D is OK too? Please don’t send me the Wikipedia on Intels, because I’ve read it

4–My board is 9.6″ x 9.6″, some of these are smaller. ATX is not about size, but about arrangement, isn’t it?

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1–It’s a CRT, but I’m thinking about a flat screen within a year. Will I need a different output?

LCD monitors come in two flavours, VGA and VGA/DVI. As long as you have a VGA connector on the new motherboard you will be able to connect either monitor.

cheers, Paul

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3–Pentium D is not listed for some of these. If it lists Celeron, should I presume P-D is OK too? Please don’t send me the Wikipedia on Intels, because I’ve read it

If your really concerned about whether the Pentium D is going to be compatible, then choose a board that specifically lists it.
The Pentium D is an old single core CPU, and probably bios compatible with all LGA 775.
99% of the time the manufacturer will list CPU compatability.

4–My board is 9.6″ x 9.6″, some of these are smaller. ATX is not about size, but about arrangement, isn’t it?

If your case specification is ATX then it will also accomodate a MicroATX board, seeing that is what you had previously.
ATX is also about size standards. Make note of the standoffs in the case you plan to install the new board.

What’s the weird BIOS setting that’s cited? I’ve had so much anxiety with my build that I can’t tolerate anything weird in the new mobo. I was really ready to take a hammer to the whole thing this week. I replaced the original HSF twice and it’s srill not exactly right, then started sending back the new PSU’s when actually the board was killing them. Lotta postage.

Don’t read too much into other peoples posts in the reviewer’s section of Newegg. A heavy grain of salt is required.
If your concerned about the fitting of a particular CPU HSF, then look closely at all your MB choices for the fit/mount types your HSF requires. PSU; I would not worry too much about PSU, you already stated your PSU is ATX, 24 pin. It will be compatible and more than powerfull enough. Thermaltake Purepower 430W NP Power Supply Review

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If your really concerned about whether the Pentium D is going to be compatible, then choose a board that specifically lists it.
The Pentium D is an old single core CPU, and probably bios compatible with all LGA 775.
99% of the time the manufacturer will list CPU compatability.

I know it’s old and hot, but Wikipedia: “The Pentium D was the first multi-core Pentium, integrating two Pentium 4 chips in one package and was also available as the enthusiast Pentium Extreme Edition.” Haven’t smacked the top off to check if it is.

And: “The only motherboards guaranteed to work with the Pentium D
(and Extreme Edition) branded CPUs were those based on the 945-, 955-, 965- and 975-series Intel chipsets, as well as the nForce 4 SLI Intel Edition and ATI Radeon Xpress. “

Thanks for all your time. I’m being super-careful because I’ve bought wrong parts several times before.

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Have you decided on a board yet?

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Have you decided on a board yet?

I’ve been working late, and am busy with a sick cat, have to study the list. Thanks to you all, and I’ll get back to you.

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Clint–Not concerned with the current PSU, as Thermaltake has replaced it twice. I was just saying I can’t afford the UPS charges to RMA parts.

I like the 3-year warranty from MSI, it has all my requirements.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130279

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FWIW all the mobo manufacturers have 3 yr warranty. Go with the one that gives you less hassle on an RMA 2 yrs down the road. I have only dealt with ASUS and it was a breeze.

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