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    Microsoft removes Windows 11 24H2 official support on 8th 9th 10th Gen Intel CPUs

    ..Over on the blue side though, the tech giant has surprisingly removed several Intel SKUs from this new list even though they should technically be supported on 24H2 as they fulfill the official system requirements criteria. So as of now, Microsoft no longer supports these parts on new machines, at least on paper…

    For starters, Ice Lake U and Y (Intel 10th Gen mobile) and Comet Lake (Intel 10th Gen desktop and mobile) SKUs have been dumped. Support for 8th and 9th Gen parts (Cofee Lake) have been dropped too. We have compiled the list of removed 10th Gen, 9th Gen, and 8th Gen processors below:..

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-intel-processors

    * Microsoft has enforced my decision not to move to Windows 11.

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    • #2748809

      “Changes to the processors listed do not indicate or impact a customer’s existing Windows support and are intended for OEMs to determine processors which may be used in new Windows devices.

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      misleading article. this page is for OEMs to determine which processors may be used in new windows devices.”

      https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1iq909m/microsoft_removes_windows_11_24h2_official/

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    • #2748818

      Still good to know, though, if you’re a Win 10 user contemplating an upgrade to Win 11.

      My 8th gen Intel Core i5-8265U (Whiskey Lake) CPU is on that list of dropped CPUs, so even if it still meets the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11 (see the attached WhyNotWin11 image) it will no longer officially “meet the design principles around security, reliability…” now in place for new computers.
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    • #2748844

      (see the attached WhyNotWin11 image)

      I don’t think that WhyNotWin11 has been updated with the latest CPU changes.

      Maybe upgrading Windows 10 to Windows 11 may pass. Not sure about clean install.

      • #2748854

        I don’t think that WhyNotWin11 has been updated with the latest CPU changes. Maybe upgrading Windows 10 to Windows 11 may pass. Not sure about clean install.

        Hi Alex572:

        Are you certain the minimum system requirements for installing Win 11 have changed? Unless I misunderstood, the updated list of CPUs at Windows 11 version 24H2 supported Intel processors only affects the CPUs that OEM manufacturers can install in new Win 11 devices going forward if they want to meet Microsoft’s specifications for their Windows Hardware Compatibility Program.

        My Intel i5-8265U CPU is still on the list of compatible CPUs at Windows 11 version 22H2 & 23H2 supported Intel processors so at the very least I should still be able to upgrade to Win 11 v23H2, even if that version is out of support on 11-Nov-2025 for Home and Pro editions.

        FYI – I have no immediate plans to upgrade my Win 10 OS to Win 11. If I decide to keep using my Win 10 laptop beyond 25-Oct-2025 I’ll purchase the $30 USD one-year ESU (extended security updates) license for home consumers.
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        Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.5487 * Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

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    • #2748852

      There’s an interesting discussion in the comments below the Neowin article that @Alex5723 linked us to. Some people say these processors are being dropped because Intel isn’t releasing drivers for them, for example here:

      Well, we’re only talking official support here. Your system will continue to just work (for now). You’ll probably need a workaround for Windows 12 though, or future versions of Windows 11 if it carries on long enough. Intel have semi-deprecated operating system support in the past by refusing to offer iGPU drivers. You can install Windows XP on a Haswell chip for example, despite Ivy Bridge being the official last architecture to support it, and you’ll find drivers for everything except the iGPU (you can use it as a basic display adapter, but no 3D acceleration… such as it is on an Intel iGPU).

      Others point out that the list is intended for manufacturers and doesn’t affect private individuals installing Windows 11 on their old machines, which seems to be true. But then there was this observation:

      OK, though MS might be the head of the snake here when it comes to confusion. Take a look at this page:

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-u…s/windows-11-specifications

      That’s unambiguously about “minimum system requirements for installing Windows 11 on a PC.” If you click the “compatible 64-bit processor” link on that page, guess where you end up? On the master page for all OS’s called “Windows Processor Requirements” — and the 24H2 link on that page is the very one discussed in this Neowin article….

      Maybe time will tell what will actually happen.

       

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      • #2748853

        I suppose one with 8th, 9th or 10th gen CPU can run Microsoft Health Check

        This seems to answer the question

        “Microsoft has officially dropped the support for several generations of Intel processors on Windows 11’s latest version, 24H2. This is regarding only OEMs and not users, which means newer OEM machines after Microsoft’s mandate with any of these processors won’t receive a Windows 11 24H2 update, which may make things difficult for OEMs. However, users who already own these chips can still get the latest Windows 11 updates.”

        https://wccftech.com/microsoft-drops-support-for-intels-10th-gen-processors-on-windows-11-24h2/

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    • #2748924

      Microsoft removes Windows 11 24H2 official support on 8th 9th 10th Gen Intel CPUs

      ..Over on the blue side though, the tech giant has surprisingly removed several Intel SKUs from this new list even though they should technically be supported on 24H2 as they fulfill the official system requirements criteria. So as of now, Microsoft no longer supports these parts on new machines, at least on paper…

      For starters, Ice Lake U and Y (Intel 10th Gen mobile) and Comet Lake (Intel 10th Gen desktop and mobile) SKUs have been dumped. Support for 8th and 9th Gen parts (Cofee Lake) have been dropped too. We have compiled the list of removed 10th Gen, 9th Gen, and 8th Gen processors below:..

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-intel-processors

      * Microsoft has enforced my decision not to move to Windows 11.

      Good to know. Thanks Alex.

      I have known for some time that my 10-year-old X99 systems (which I still use as my main systems to run Windows 10 1809 LTSC / Windows Server 2019 and have no intention of dropping) and my system based on a Ryzen 7 1700X CPU are not supported on Windows 11. But now even Intel CPUs released in 2019-2020 are no longer supported by Windows 11 24H2 (and presumably future versions)?

      Another large group of PCs rendered “obsolete” by Windows 11, including my “hackintosh” which uses an Intel i7 9700KF to run MacOS. I built that machine specifically to run MacOS and I have no plan to install any version of Windows on it (except as virtual machines running on VMware Fusion).

      In view of this development, my guess is that machines currently using these CPUs which have been “upgraded” to Windows 11 24H2 will continue to run, but you will not be able to install later versions of Windows on them, at least not officially.

      On the AMD side it seems nothing significant has changed. The Ryzen 2000 series CPUs (released in 2018) and Ryzen 3000 series CPUs (released in 2019) are still supported by Windows 11 24H2 for example :
      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-amd-processors

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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    • #2749059

      From Windows Latest site – No, Microsoft is NOT dropping Windows 11 support for Intel 8th, 9th, and 10th Gen chips
      https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/02/17/no-microsoft-is-not-dropping-windows-11-support-for-intel-8th-9th-and-10th-gen-chips/

      edit: so that article from the Neowin site is pretty much “click bait

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      • #2749066

        They’re a requirement sheet for PC makers like HP and Lenovo to consider building new PCs with newer processors, so they do not list 8th-gen, 9th-gen, and 10th-gen processors.

        This is the first step.
        I would wage that 25H2 won’t support 8th-gen, 9th-gen, and 10th-gen processors for customers.

    • #2749068

      This is the first step.
      I would wage that 25H2 won’t support 8th-gen, 9th-gen, and 10th-gen processors for customers.

      I think it is more likely Windows 12 has those limitations. It makes no sense to change the requirements for people who already paid for Windows 11.

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    • #2749150

      Microsoft removes Windows 11 24H2 official support on 8th 9th 10th Gen Intel CPUs

      Looks like http://www.neowin.net and windowslatest.com are going head to head on this topic.

      https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/02/17/no-microsoft-is-not-dropping-windows-11-support-for-intel-8th-9th-and-10th-gen-chips/

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    • #2749281

      going head to head on this topic.

      Microsoft’s list of supported CPUs is the proof

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-amd-processors

      • #2749306

        Microsoft’s list of supported CPUs is the proof

        So why did you post a link about AMD processors??

    • #2749287

      going head to head on this topic.

      Microsoft’s list of supported CPUs is the proof

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-amd-processors

      Proof only that many have got it wrong; if only MS had spelled ‘design’ as ‘(future)design’ or ‘next gen changes’ then I think there’d be fewer getting hold of the dirty end of the stick.

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-amd-processors

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    • #2749330

      See the 7th paragraph at Windows Processor Requirements | Microsoft Learn. It is the parent article in the Windows Processor Requirements section.

      It says: “Changes to the processors listed do not indicate or impact a customer’s existing Windows support and are intended for OEMs to determine processors which may be used in new Windows devices.”

      --Joe

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    • #2749351

      “Changes to the processors listed do not indicate or impact a customer’s existing Windows support and are intended for OEMs to determine processors which may be used in new Windows devices.”

      For now is missing

    • #2749364

      “Changes to the processors listed do not indicate or impact a customer’s existing Windows support and are intended for OEMs to determine processors which may be used in new Windows devices.”

      For now is missing

      As is “as of XX February 2025”.

      Stop trying to create something out of thin air, the tyres will deflate too quickly.

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      • #2749367

        my sentiments exactly.

        wish there was an option to “Like” that post

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    • #2749366

      They’re a requirement sheet for PC makers like HP and Lenovo to consider building new PCs with newer processors, so they do not list 8th-gen, 9th-gen, and 10th-gen processors.

      This is the first step.
      I would wage that 25H2 won’t support 8th-gen, 9th-gen, and 10th-gen processors for customers.

      WRONG!

      any kind of thinking like that is out of ignorance

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    • #2749368

      https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-drops-support-some-intel-cpus-run-windows-11-24h2/

      As explained by Microsoft on its Learn website, the updated list of supported CPUs is for OEMs and not for the users. The list is an instruction from Microsoft to OEMs about what Intel processors to choose to build new systems with the Windows 11 24H2 update. Removal of those chips simply means that Windows device makers will now have to get at least Intel 11th Gen to launch new systems with the Windows 11 24H2 update.

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    • #2752341

      Microsoft “restored” Intel 8th, 9th and 10th Gen CPUs to support 24H2 list

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-intel-processors

      ..A page update made on February 13, 2025 did not reflect accurate offerings. It has since been updated, including the addition of Intel® processor models 8th, 9th, and 10th generation Intel® CPUs, and the reclassification for select Intel® processor models to support Windows 11…

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      • #2752349

        Quick, mark the Topic as “Resolved” before it’s flooded with “I told you so”s.

        MS took note of a lack of understanding affecting their page layout and corrected it.

        Over to you.

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    • #2752461

      Resolved

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