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    #37585

    Apparently reversing a (stupid) announcement made in January, Microsoft now has an “update” to its silicon support policy for Windows. Enterprise cust
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    • #37586

      For some strange reason
      On restart (pos after chaging something on the service.msc)
      I cannot connectt onto the internet
      now I notice Diagnostics Policy Service won’t start
      even when I goto Service (run as admin) and manually turn it on
      it turn off again by itself

      tried a few methods I googed but nothing help
      tried ipcnfig/renew & net localgroup Administrators /add networkservice
      even did a restore but did not fix it

      Im at a lost and appreciate ‘fix’ from anyone
      I have too much data and settings I cant clean reinstall

      Can you help?
      does anyone had similar problem before and solve it?

      Thanks woody and anyone who helped

    • #37587

      Thank goodness. I was trapped. I built a new system with a 6th gen and have no intent to use Win10. Very happy to hear this.

      Dell is still selling Win7 new PCs but they do not include any 6th gens. Maybe now, that will change.

      CT

    • #37588
    • #37589

      How do you know if your Win7 computer is a skylake or not?

    • #37590

      I think Rich saw my tweet. 🙂

    • #37591
    • #37592

      Evidently, M$ decided that the massive world-wide litigation that was certain to ensue would be far too costly. Good choice.

    • #37593

      Okay, my toshiba qosmio x505 isn’t on the list.

    • #37594

      The original position was pure spin to push people away from 7/8 and onto Win10 during the free period. The whole point that this was to make supporting code easier for MS by having to write different patches was rubbish, as they would have to support the code base for servers in any case, and that’s the same as the Win7/8 code bases. And they couldn’t alienate their server customer base without serious repercussions.

    • #37595

      When manufacturers, OEM partners and Enterprise clients ram the proverbial 10 foot pole between their rear facing cheeks, that is valuable feedback.

      MS is looking remarkably like a porcupine these days.

    • #37596

      You can buy a brand new Dell OptiPlex with Windows 7 and a 4th Gen (“Haswell”) CPU direct from Dell:

      http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/optiplex-3020-desktop/pd?oc=cao3020sffw7pf04&model_id=optiplex-3020-desktop

    • #37597

      If the CPU is 6th Generation, it’s a Skylake.

      If you want an earlier chip (e.g. Haswell), make sure it is listed as something earlier than a “6th Generation” CPU. Or, look at the model number of the CPU.

      Wikipedia has some excellent info on CPU model numbers. Here is their info about Haswell CPUs (4th Generation):

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

    • #37598

      Thanks!

    • #37599

      You mean their outward appearance is that of a whole lot of pickles?

    • #37600

      Edited for, uh, clarity. 🙂

    • #37601

      I have been helping my clients buy new Win7 PCs from Dell for years. One last week. The secret is contacting them as a business. I’m afraid it will all come to a halt come November when MS says Dell will not be allowed to sell Win7 any longer.

      CT

    • #37602

      Its easy actually. You need to know your processor model number. the syntax is in-nnnn. If the 1st n after the – is a 6, it is a skylake. That digit specifies the Intel processor generation. For example mine is an i5-6600. It is a 6th gen processor. If it were i5-5500, it would be a 5th Gen — not a Skylake.

      CT

    • #37603

      Just so I make sure I’m understanding this correctly (I am not a computer-techie person),
      does this news mean that if one is buying a new computer that has Win 7 installed (at least for the next couple of months, until the manufacturers will have to stop making and selling them as per Microsoft’s edict),
      that the new computer can have ANY processor in it (any name of chip, any generation),
      and that computer WILL BE supported by Microsoft until the Win 7 extended support deadline of Jan 2020?

    • #37604

      That’s correct.

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