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ISSUE 22.01.1 • 2025-01-09 By Susan Bradley We’re less than a week away from the first round of updates for 2025, not just for Windows but for all our
[See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 2: Kicking off the new year]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Windows 11 has a “compatibility mode” for older applications. Look up the fairly simple procedure online and try to get the older Canon MX870 driver to work.
As always, Susan will have the best advice!
Richard
Are you really sure? Have you actually tried? I run drivers for older machines in Compatibility Mode, no problem.
I’m fully aware another poster has linked to this forum but read all the replies to the question:
https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Desktop-Inkjet-Printers/pixma-mx870-and-window-11/m-p/363253
Ignore the first reply which is from some cocky sales rep just chancing his arm.
The following may also be of use, even if it relates to a different Canon model:
https://www.reddit.com/r/canon/comments/ttc07e/old_canon_printer_compatibility_tip_for_windows/
Never give up! I genuinely cannot believe that a 10 year old printer cannot run on W11.
You can’t roll back to 23H2 if you installed 24H2 from the get go.
There is a known issue with certain scanners and 24H2
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/resolved-issues-windows-11-24H2#3446msgdesc
It was supposed to be fixed in the December patches, but I’ve heard reports that not all issues are cleared up.
In addition https://www.usa.canon.com/support/p/pixma-mx870 I’m only seeing the driver offered up if you indicate Windows 10. You can try the Windows 10 driver but you may need to buy a new printer.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Canon has a list of all of their inkjet printer and scanner models that are compatible with Windows 11 at
https://support.usa.canon.com/kb/s/article/FAQ100626
The Canon MX870 is not included on the list.
I just found this old (2022) post from Canon regarding your unit. You could try.
https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Desktop-Inkjet-Printers/pixma-mx870-and-window-11/m-p/363253
PL1
Thank you for providing the link to Canon’s Upgrade Program.
I’m afraid we are taking a break from purchasing additional IT hardware. We just finished purchasing a number of HP Z2 Tower G9 Workstations (some are still their boxes) and need to step back, take a break, and see where we want to go next.
I find it time-consuming to identify the hardware we want. This is particularly true for printer/scanner/fax machines. I looked at a number of replacements – including units recommended by Consumer Reports – but was unable to make up my mind.
Thus, the recovery of the Brother MFC-6490CW printer/scanner/fax that I’m in the process of setting up.
In this case it’s not a Microsoft problem, the root cause is a lack of drivers for Windows 11. You’ll (should) be able to get basic functionality if you connect it, just not full features like you are used to. For example it will probably do a basic print but not full features scan.
10 years old is indeed a long time in printerland.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
In Microsoft’s world, faxing is either dead or moved to electronic faxing.
I just bought a Ricoh (aka fujitsu) scanner that I’m liking. Scansnap ix1600
Adobe acrobat 2000 and Windows 11 doesn’t play nice nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Acrobat_version_history
You may need to upgrade that Adobe or look to a newer non Adobe PDF software.
All the kids on the playground have to be the same age to get along well has always been my tech mantra.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
InControl will allow you to stay on Win10 22H2. Win10 22H2 reaches End of Service (EoS) on October 14, 2025, so you will not get the monthly updates after that time.
InControl controls Feature Updates (version changes). It does NOT control monthly Cumulative Updates or let you choose which updates Windows Update installs. It will only control staying on Win10 or upgrading to Win11.
A Windows 10 PC will not stop working in October. So, if you don’t want to upgrade or can’t afford a new PC keep it. The Windows 10 ESU program is $30 for one year. IMO, the only way Microsoft extends the life of Windows 10 is if a substantial number of its largest commercial customers complain.
--Joe
I’ve said this before but I wouldn’t be shocked if Microsoft extends Windows 10 security patches for free for another year or two
You will have Windows 10 support with 0Patch Pro for 5 years at least.
Win10 22H2 does NOT expire until Oct. 14, 2025. You do NOT have to change to Win11 NOW.
Win10 22H2 will continue to get updates until Oct 14. At that poing you have several options to keep using Win10 safely. Microsoft offers Extended Security Updates (ESU) for another year for $30 US. Also, 0Patch offers updates for 5 years after Win10 stops getting updates. Their annual fee is similar to the one MS charges.
Further, when/if you decide to upgrade to Win11, you will have to be sure your PC meets the hardware requirements. Although there are ways to bypass those requirements now, MS may get stricter and stricter. Already, there are requirements that cannot be bypassed in 24H2. So if your PC is older, you may have to consider a new PC or consider changing your OS to one that can run on your current hardware.
So, there are options. Which one you choose is up to you. But you are certainly not up against a deadline tomorrow. And when you do make the decision, there are still options.
I have an HP ENVY 5540 printer, too.
Drivers that are compatible with Windows 11 are available from the HP website so you have nothing to worry about on that front.
Despite its relatively flimsy construction, I’ve been impressed with its service (for a home environment) over the years. The only downside is that a genuine HP cartridge now costs 50% of the original purchase price of the printer!
As PKCano says, you do not have to make any decisions now regarding upgrading/replacing your PC.
“Keep calm and carry on…”
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