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ISSUE 20.49.1 • 2023-12-07 By Susan Bradley The upcoming December updates will begin Microsoft’s process of dribbling out Windows Copilot. No question
[See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 2: Copilot for Christmas]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Open-Shell (originally Class Shell) provides free Classic Menu options for Windows 10/11 and is still under development (v4.4.191 Aug 16, 2023).
I have been using HP Smart for several years because I have an HP printer. I find it slow and frustrating so, if you don’t need it, I recommend avoiding it.
Chris
Win 10 Pro x64 Group A
If you have multiple displays, the Copilot preview may not be offered to you. There is currently a bug that causes desktop icons to move unexpectedly between displays or causes other icon-alignment issues. I’m not yet aware of a resolution for this problem.
Fixed in the preview update three days ago:
New! You can use Copilot in Windows (in preview) across multiple displays. Press the Copilot in Windows taskbar button on the taskbar of the display where you want Copilot in Windows to appear. To show Copilot in Windows on the last display that it was on, press Win+C. If you use a keyboard, press Win+T to put the keyboard focus on the taskbar. Then go to the Copilot in Windows button to open it on any display. This is available to a small audience initially and deploys more broadly in the months that follow.
December 4, 2023—KB5032288 (OS Builds 22621.2792 and 22631.2792) Preview
From article “I’m not sure I understand why Copilot needed to be so deeply embedded in Windows,”
Pretty obvious that it’s all about tracking and control.
Not obvious to me. What does it track or control?
My take on “Control” you are going to get it whether you like it or not. Unless of course you don’t ever update your system or better still disconnect from the internet. “Track” will if it uses Bing, would not part or all this info be sent back to the mothership for what ever reason Microsoft they see fit.
Copilot only works via Edge and Bing. I don’t want either on my PC’s, nor do I wish to use a Microsoft account to login, so I uninstall Edge and Bing, and I don’t have a Microsoft user account on my PC’s. This renders Copilot impotent while at the same time increasing my privacy. I don’t want trackers and/or targeted ads. By eliminating some of Microsoft’s ecosystem from my PC’s, I’m able to maintain more of my privacy.
Am I correct in understanding that Copilot will be installed regardless of what we do? If so, can anyone explain what the functional difference is between hiding and ignoring it vs. using the registry hack? RE: Win10 Home 22H2.
The registry key pre-emptively disables Copilot, which will be in the December updates, presumably the CU. Hiding/ignoring it likely means it will still be running in the background whether you require its services or not.
As you’re on Home edition, the registry key is your only way to disable it. Whether you do it now or once Copilot is actually on your system, makes little difference in my opinion. Doing it now or any time before installing the December updates, means once Copilot is installed it will already be disabled. So, pre-emptive like I said.
I’m on Windows 10 22H2 Pro and I’m just going to wait and disable Copilot in Group Policy when it’s installed with the December updates.
An excellent article in Windows Central entitled How to disable Windows Copilot in Windows 11.
It provides clear stet-by-step instructions for dealing with Copilot including:
I assume that the same approaches described in the article for Windows 11 will be available for Windows 10 users.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-disable-windows-copilot-in-windows-11
“I’m not sure I understand why Copilot needed to be so deeply embedded in Windows, at least right now.”
Probably simply prep for win 12 – do it “right the first time” so they don’t have to re-do it all. Just saving themselves time.
Not obvious to me. What does it track or control?
I agree. There is a great deal of chicken little going on but I have yet to see any real danger UNLESS we ask it a question and then follow it’s Bing answer without question. But to me that is simple stupidity, not an imminent danger. Please show me where I am wrong, not simply that you feel I am wrong.
Interesting circus and I am simply watching (typing this from Mint Xfce).
MS is wedded to Bing so it will make windows more Bing based. Like chromebook or chrome browser is google based.
The first computer I worked on, one day did actually, in effect, added 1 and 1 and came up with 3. Shortly thereafter we became aware of the huge glacier that had formed on the air conditioner and the warmth of the room, and simply shut it down for a while (IBM 7070, 1962, U of R).
The real danger is that we stop thinking, or defer our decisions to someone or something else. So put down your “magic” 8-ball and resume your discriminatory thought processes!
MS is wedded to Bing so it will make windows more Bing based. Like chromebook or chrome browser is google based.
Bing doesn’t live in my PC, nor does Edge. I don’t want the tracking or phone-home attributes of either, so I keep them at bay.
Windows update likes to re-install Edge, but Revo Uninstaller Pro’s “Forced Uninstall” feature makes short work of it, files, folders and registry entries. Bing can be rendered impotent by deleting its folders from Program Files\WindowsApps.
MS may be wedded to Bing, but I am not. I don’t want it doing anything “under the covers”, so to speak.
There are apparently a large percentage of folks who are unthinking and label driven else sellers would not persist, and PT Barnum continues to be correct, if not badly understated. Every ad now has some version of “Black Friday” in it and assumes that many will not actually check past present or other prices to verify that they are actually benefiting. MS uses copilot and many will apparently blindly assume that they need a copilot and that this is a good thing (the same ones who use Bing.) (only a tiny percentage of windows users read and heed AskWoody. )
IBM is trying Heron. (but we won’t know until ’33 if it actually flies…) HP has HP Smart. Then there’s the endless electronics and software called “i”something. There are a million marketing labels and sellers use them because they at least appear to increase their bottom line.
Some thought that the Nvidia chip might hasten MS’s demise and lessen windows influence, but last decade’s MBAs are hard at work simply re-inventing Bing. That’s their job. If they don’t, they get fired. Bottom line.
We can’t ever be as children but must become increasingly aware of the tools we use – else those tools use us! I have always thought of computers as simply toys. I recommend that ideology! The more seriously you take them, the more problematic they become.
The sky is not falling – it is just an MBA doing her or his job.
krism
Susan Bradley started this topic stating, “The upcoming December updates will begin Microsoft’s process of dribbling out Windows Copilot.”
She went on to say that, “Maybe the bugs should be worked out before Copilot is welded permanently to Windows.”
I am restricting my comments in this topic (MS-DEFCON 2: Copilot for Christmas) to a discussion of the deployment of Copilot and options for minimizing its impact on our computers.
I will not join a rant about the business practices of the technology sector in general and Microsoft in particular.
Like it or not, we are dependent on Microsoft for our computer related activities and need to focus on optimizing our systems in order to address our specific needs.
And our needs may be very different from others working in the Microsoft ecosystem.
Kathy, Copilot needs Edge. Without Edge, it is a non-starter.
It won’t use Firefox, it won’t use DuckDuckGo browser. It just pops up that dialog box.
We are dependent on someone or some thing only in as much or as far as we ourselves choose to be. No more or no less.
We do indeed need to focus on optimizing our individual systems to safely serve our unique individual needs. We need to understand the situation.
Susan Bradley has thankfully worked hard to give us options so that we each may do as we see fit. AND to educate us to what is presently known about copilot.
My path with windows is to use and learn. (I will not reply further to this thread.)
Search for “snowmobile” and in short order (often only a couple of hours) get targeted ads on other web sites for snowmobiles.
What are ads exactly ? 
Never seen one.
CoPilot Removal using manually inserted Registry settings —
Can anyone point me to a copilot removal method using Registry keys please, both for Windows 11 pro and windows 11 home editions.
I prefer to do it manually so that I know howto do it, and how to reverse the action if I need to.
Yes I know to be very careful in the Registry.
There have been some references in this forum but nothing definitive that I can find.
mbhelwig
In windows 11 dev preview
I don’t know about you, but I use Show the desktop a lot.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
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