More signs that MS is closer to releasing 1809

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This page was changed today https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028685/windows-10-get-the-update  
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Great Lake Bunyip, PhotM

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1809 has been sort of a mess for myself, with wifi issues, some sort of kernel panics being recorded and just feeling like the 1809 is unstable at times. At one point I had to install Ubuntu on a PC just to take a break from Win 10. Not that I see a real sensible move to Linux minds you. It has got its own set of issues at times. I mostly wanted to see if my wifi issues were hardware related or OS related. I concluded Windows 10 1809 was the issue with much of my issues. Now were on the cusp of yet another Windows 10 release 1903 and all I can do is pray.

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Closer to releasing? Didn’t that happen four or five months ago for 1809?

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alQamar

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Very first sentence:

Windows 10 will automatically download the October 2018 Update on your eligible device if you’ve turned on automatic updates in Windows Update settings.

That does look like Microsoft has decided its time for everyone to move to 1809.

They are providing extensive links on the same page that may solve any updating problems you may encounter… giving directions to seek, use the Update Assistant, troubleshoot updating problems, fix updating issues, free up hard drive space, and fixing internet issues.

Then, for those who are still on Windows 7 and 8.1, they link to how to a Update to W10 FAQ.

Just in case anyone had any doubts, Microsoft wants you to update to 1809… and are offering quick access to anything they think may facilitate the process.

They aren’t talking about having caused updating issues, but listing all the ways to fix them, should they be encountered…

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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alQamar

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The first sentence is unchanged since 10/23/2018:

https://web.archive.org/web/20181023033953/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028685/windows-10-get-the-update

The rest of the page is unchanged since 2/9/2019:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190209031048/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028685/windows-10-get-the-update

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doriel

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Just a non-techy note of frustration. It is hard enough to learn terminology and how to apply it. Microsoft seems to go out of their way to make things more confusing (like applying seeker status before documenting it). However, I don’t think this particular example is intentional on their part (given all the ways to fix updating that they have provided links to).

If version 1809 isn’t offered automatically through Check for updates, you can get it manually through the Update Assistant.

So… I click on the link for Update Assistant, and am taken to “Download Windows 10” where I am offered the ‘media creation tool’. Nowhere on the page are the words Update Assistant. Maybe the media creation tool is the Update Assistant, but it would be nice to use the same words to describe it, rather than leave one to feel it may be a bad link. The support page on Update Assistant also links to the media creation tool, so it leads me to believe that is what they are referring to as Update Assistant… but clarity in regards to labels just isn’t there, and won’t help their cause. It surely increases frustration, especially for a non-techy facing updating problems to begin with.

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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At the top of the download page it says, “The Update Assistant can help you update to the latest version of Windows 10. To get started, click Update now.” which gets you the update assistant.

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@b-

I don’t think we are looking at the same page. The link that Woody gives above has this reference to Update Assistant:

Both the support page and that link take me to:

Which does not mention Windows Update Assistant anywhere. If your point is that if I click to down load the media creation tool, I’ll find the reference that you quote, you are simply making my point for me. Why would I click to download a media creation tool when I’m looking for Windows Update Assistant to begin with?

PS- You should be happy at the thoroughness that Microsoft is showing in addressing problems that may occur when updating, though…

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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EstherD

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Same page at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 but it detects which OS you use to access it:

So you don’t see the top part which is only applicable to Windows 10.

On the support article page which Woody thought had changed, only the bottom line and link is applicable to Windows 7/8.1.

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Elly

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Well, that explains why I didn’t see it, because I wasn’t using W10…

But if I wanted to run it on family W10 gaming machine, I can’t download it to a USB (which it superficially looks like I could do, and where I collect resources to diagnose and then fix problems for family and friends) connected to another computer, and move it to the needy machine to use… which, again, it is confusing to be offered an alternative link, with no explanation. It could say that Update Assistant is only available to W10 computers on line, rather than stonewall. Microsoft knows… you figured it out… but without help, it just left me feeling let down and confused…

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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For anyone else with this problem (not being able to see the Update Assistant link), the (missing) link points to:

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=799445

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Windows 10 ver 1803 just got refreshed ISO files (updated March 2019)

something interesting

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Great Lake Bunyip

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Looks like there is only the Intel Display Driver Problem left.

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Elly wrote:

@b- I don’t think we are looking at the same page. The link that Woody gives above has this reference to Update Assistant: Both the support page and that link take me to: Which does not mention Windows Update Assistant anywhere. If your point is that if I click to down load the media creation tool, I’ll find the reference that you quote, you are simply making my point for me. Why would I click to download a media creation tool when I’m looking for Windows Update Assistant to begin with? PS- You should be happy at the thoroughness that Microsoft is showing in addressing problems that may occur when updating, though…

I agree with the confusion it is really hard to get to the website to retrieve the upgrade assistant.

 

When one Google for Windows 10 Upgrade, at least in Germany

Mostly you’re landing on the site that holds some not so clear links and they get you to the page of media creation tool and not Windows upgrade assistant.

 

Bear in mind that installing the upgrade via an iso (media creation tool) is faster than using search for updates or windows upgrade assistant

The reason is internal code that the iso always install on normal priority while other methods are designed to run with internally low prio so users don’t get disturbed during an upgrade and can continue to use the device.

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We experienced similar issues that Anonymous did with 1809: Wi-fi issues, miracast / screenbeam issues, and issues with Direct Access. We also have an issue with the 1809 UIP always downloading Dynamic Updates from the Internet (Microsoft) instead of WSUS. At one point 1809 got so bad for me that I reimaged my laptop back to 1803 just to become productive again (I was on 1809 too long and had lost the ability to revert). Holding on to 1803 and waiting and hoping that the next new release will be more reliable is not a reassuring strategy to run an enterprise on.

Another Anonymous mentioned the only issue remaining with 1809 is the Intel Display driver. I assume that is this issue:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4465877/what-needs-your-attention-intel-audio-display-notification

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Great Lake Bunyip

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abbodi86 wrote:

Windows 10 ver 1803 just got refreshed ISO files (updated March 2019) something interesting

Where do you see that? and d/l them??

And how did the smiley get sooooo big ??

Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.

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en_windows_10_consumer_edition_version_1803_updated_march_2019_x64_dvd_3cbe2068.iso
en_windows_10_consumer_edition_version_1803_updated_march_2019_x86_dvd_1a476683.iso

available to MSDN & Visual Studio subscribers only; not available on MS Windows 10 ISO downloads page as that one only provides the original 1803 ISOs w/out any new cumulative updates integrated

otherwise, ask in MDL Forums on how to obtain them

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wavy

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EP wrote:

en_windows_10_consumer_edition_version_1803_updated_march_2019_x64_dvd_3cbe2068.iso en_windows_10_consumer_edition_version_1803_updated_march_2019_x86_dvd_1a476683.iso available to MSDN & Visual Studio subscribers only; not available on MS Windows 10 ISO downloads page as that one only provides the original 1803 ISOs w/out any new cumulative updates integrated otherwise, ask in MDL Forums on how to obtain them

Sadly it has not been updated on the VLSC yet

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oh well. maybe wait until Fri. 3/22 or next Tue. 3/26 to see if they’re available in the VLSC. otherwise follow my advice I mentioned previously and just ask somebody in the MDL forum on how to get them.

still no change with the Win10 release info page as of 3/19/2019, woody:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10/release-information

1809 is still not yet available in SAC channel, only thru SAC-T and LTSC

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abbodi86

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Yep, just checked with UUP dump API, no IsSeeker no 1809

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maybe 1809 gets pushed thru automatic updates more widely in April 2019
around the time MS gets ready to publicly release 1903/19H1

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