Microsoft says it’ll sell Win7 Extended Security Updates to Ultimate users

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Sort of. Microsoft’s Joe Lurie posted on the Tech Community forum yesterday: We have been communicating ESU since last May with constant blogs, announ
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I’m following Susan’s efforts with interest, but the sad truth is that as a home user with two desktops, even if the option was there I’m not sure I’m prepared to pay an annual subscription  for 12 opportunities for Microsoft to break my machines!

The alternatives not being appropriate or of interest to me, I’m resigned to upgrading my machines to Windows 10 one at a time after Christmas. I’m beginning to delve more deeply into a book on Windows 10 that I was given last Christmas, can’t think who wrote it ;).

Do we have an article or discussion anywhere here or does anyone know of a simple guide to the best way to implement the upgrade these days and in particular any tips on pitfalls to avoid? No need to mention backing up! Thanks.

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If MS had just said months ago that Ultimate would be supported, it would have saved me (and presumably many others) a lot of stress. But then again, MS mainly (only?) thinks about big businesses.

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[EP]

abbodi86 made this comment a few days ago (and I made a follow up comment)

will Win7 ESUs also cover “Ultimate N” and “Ultimate E” editions?

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• This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by EP.

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Thanks for the update.

What about ESU’s for Win 7 Pro users?  And, an ESU for Win Server 2008 R2 (SBS2011)?

Would like to get through one more year.  Not affiliated with a volume license or cloud provider.

Appreciated!

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Win7 Pro is eligible for the ESUs.
You may have to go through Volume Licensing for Server 2008 R2. Susan should know the answer for that.

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BKS_CB, Nibbled To Death By Ducks

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Susan here answering-for server you need software assurance

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I’d do it if it was security only.

Ain’t taking their crapware on my machine with the rollups.

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Charlie, Kranium

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Windows 7 Ultimate was mentioned as eligible in the very first ESU FAQ PDF
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/no-microsoft-has-not-confirmed-a-new-monthly-charge-for-win7/#post-345902
Windows 7 and Office 2010 End of Support FAQ .pdf

but it was neglected in the subsequent FAQs

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I just guess I’ll wait for the step-by-step article from Susan on how we Win 7 Pro users should proceed, who to contact, etc.

Ain’t hassling this a bear around the Holidays? Sure takes the shine off your shoes. I’m getting tired of MSFT’s horsing around about all this too.

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BobT wrote:

I’d do it if it was security only.

Ain’t taking their crapware on my machine with the rollups.

If I am not greatly mistaken, ESU stands for Extended Security Updates. I assume (there’s that word again) that’s all we’d be getting for $61/yr, no additional crud.

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Re: “that word” –  I try to never assume anything, especially in this day and age and if it’s MS.

Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's

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I think the ESU is going to be Rollups, most likely with telemetry.

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wdburt1

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December Security Only KB4530692 include ExtendedSecurityUpdatesAI placeholder manifest

this probably indicate ESUs will continue with dual Rollup/SO model

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I actually just noticed and checked, KB4530692 contain full support for ESU, including all the required licenses

which means, you can use it instead the Rollup, if you wish to test ESU eligibility with KB4528069

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Jim C

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[James Bond 007]

So Microsoft admits that Windows 7 Ultimate users ARE eligible after all? That is news haha!

I am watching Susan’s efforts, but personally I won’t be paying for this even if it were available to me, not to mention that it probably won’t be. Anyway, I will continue to use Windows 7 with or without additional security updates after January 2020, in virtual machines and on various computers, if necessary.

As an example, my father has a piece of old hardware (a USB TV stick) that he wants to continue to use to watch and record TV programs on his computer. That TV stick is more than 10 years old having been bought in 2008 or 2009 (but still works) and there are no other comparable products that he can use. The TV stick only has drivers for Windows 7. In my tests the drivers refuse to install on Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, so he cannot move to Windows 8.1 or 10. I have also tested the stick in Windows 7 under VMware Workstation and although it sort of works, there are no sound and the TV display has random glitches. So at present he has no choice but to continue to use Windows 7 (and I don’t mind a bit).

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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I just wonder what telemetry injections await Win7 ESU patches and whether these can be neutered within Group Policy or elsewhere..time will tell
Out of the MS frying pan, into the fire?

Windows - commercial by definition and now function...

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That will not happen

but they might add hidden nags for ESU bypasser

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This link says that Win7 ESU will be available for the users of both Ultimate and Professional versions.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4527878/faq-about-extended-security-updates-for-windows-7

Frangar non flectar

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I don’t see where it mentions Ultimate. Did I miss something?

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woody wrote:

I don’t see where it mentions Ultimate. Did I miss something?

The only place Ultimate is mentioned is in the subtitle (you have to click the “More” link to see it); the section that describes what editions are eligible for ESU does not mention Ultimate.

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@jabeattyauditor –

I just checked a few minutes ago (literally!) and you are correct, the ONLY place that Ultimate is mentioned is at the very top when you click the “More” link for the versions of Windows that the KB is applicable to. The other specific question about applicable editions mentions that ESU is applicable only to Enterprise and Pro versions of Win7.

@woody –

Looks like you might want to point the above facts out to Joe Lurie so he can have the aforementioned KB (KB4527878) edited yet again to reflect what he said in the Tech Community forum back on the 19th of December (which you posted here on the main AskWoody page on the 20th).

KB4527878 was last updated on the 18th, probably to reflect what was pointed out in your thread on the AMA event last week about the wording of MSE’s exact status after January 14th, 2020.

 

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It is mentioned now, but not upfront
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4527878/faq-about-extended-security-updates-for-windows-7

Can Windows 7 ESU be used with Windows 7 Ultimate?

We recognize there are commercial customers who have deployed Windows 7 Ultimate. For commercial customers who have Windows 7 Ultimate, you can purchase Windows 7 ESU to use with those devices.

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woody

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I don’t think anyone has asked this question yet so here goes.  After Jan. 14th, will the AskWoody group be checking and monitoring the safety and necessity of Windows 7 updates for those who are still able to pay for and get Win 7 updates?

Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's

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Kranium

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I’m pretty sure we will have the usual information. Susan and Amy will definitely be involved. There will be others as well.

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No more, I am done with it all! I’m so sick and tried of this Micro$oft **, with all the silly games they’ve played. For years now it’s been update… no don’t update… wait to update. Hide this, unhide that. Watch out for this telemetry. Sneaking in and not telling about things in the downloads! As I’m writing this, I have to laugh, even my spell checker is bewildered, it doesn’t know the word- unhide.

I came here looking to find out about Servicing Stack Update KB4531786 and I did. I’m hiding it like I did with KB4530734 and turning off any future updates. I have Malwarebytes, Avast and Spybot to help me, going it alone into the great cyber unknown. I do feel some what relieved, knowing it’s all over and never having to deal the Micro$oft’s silliness it again. No big surprise to most Win 7 users that, Micro$oft has been treating it like a dirty orphan sock for years now.

I’ll still be getting my advice from Woody and so many others on here. Of course adding in my useless comments too. Safe travels to all the other Win 7 users.

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I have win 7 ultimate on one desktop and would be more than willing to pay MS for the updates yearly whether or not they are of the “group A variety” or not (have always been group B)

This is an older machine my brother built years ago. And while I have alot backed up to external drives, there is software etc on here that cannot be replaced.

I am wondering where I do go to/contact buy the ESU?

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You can apply here.

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Thank you PK for taking the time to reply.

Looks like I will just go with  0patch (paid option) as I do own a company.

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