Microsoft pushes yet another version of KB 4023057

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In the perennial bad news department: Yesterday Microsoft released yet another version of KB 4023057, the Update to Windows 10, versions 1507, 1511, 1
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The file date/times listed on the KB page still say August 31.  So is anything actually changing here? Or is the update just getting republished with the same file content?

 

 

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In the perennial bad news department: Yesterday Microsoft released yet another version of KB 4023057, the Update to Windows 10, versions 1507, 1511, 1[See the full post at: Microsoft pushes yet another version of KB 4023057]

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In my experience, the loathsome KB4023057’s release pattern is something like this:

– If you are using the current newest “feature update” (currently 1809), Windows Update won’t push KB4023057 on you because you are allowing them to install feature updates at their discretion like a good consumer. Microsoft undoubtedly sees this as an ideal “experience.”

– A few months after the release of a new “feature update,” if you are still using a previous one (currently 1803 or older), Windows Update will start pushing KB4023057 on your machine every month until you allow installation of the current “feature update.” Microsoft doesn’t like people not installing their new “feature updates.”  Who else is going to eat all the bugs, bluescreens, wasted hours, and tears? Businesses certainly won’t.

How all this will shake out with the ongoing disastrous release of 1809 is yet to be seen. Will they start forcing KB4023057 on 1803 people in a month or so, or will they give 1803ers a grace period? Who knows? Microsoft continues being transparent and agile or something.

KB4023057 is not harmless. It reenables Windows Update settings the user has probably disabled on purpose, runs a bunch of tasks intermittently to enforce that, and leaves a service running at all times. This is clearly to enforce their insane update cadence on home users. The fact that Microsoft hasn’t yet pushed it to WSUS is itself revealing–Microsoft knows business wouldn’t stand for this kind of behavior. Because it’s terrible.

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Hi all, just adding a link for some more reading about the infamous KB4023057. It sure seems like it is similar to the Windows 7 KB2952664 telemetry spyware update, and I wonder when MS will incorporate KB4023057 into the Cumulative Updates so we do not even see it. (?)

https://windowsreport.com/kb4023057/

 

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warrenrumak wrote:

The file date/times listed on the KB page still say August 31. So is anything actually changing here? Or is the update just getting republished with the same file content?

I guess, at least, some meta file description has been changed. The August version didn’t address Windows 10 V1803 afaik.

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This has destroyed my copy of windows, installed itself yesterday and now windows wont boot

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I believe you have some other problem with your computer. KB4023057 would not cause your computer not to boot.

What version of Win10 are you running? What other updates installed?

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I am no longer able to reach websites now that the update has installed.  Is there a setting I can change to fix this?

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KB4023057 doesn’t have anything to do with Internet connections. But some of the other Nov. updates do.

You can uninstall KB4023057 – see #239088 and above.

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@PKCano: I’m not sure, if your statement ‘KB4023057 doesn’t have anything to do with Internet connections’ is right.

In theory I would agree. But I immediately after publishing the German version of my blog post about that update, I received a feedback from a reader, that his internet connection has been slowed down terribly. And he couln’t reach some sites. Then I started an internet research – there are several users (in the past) claiming internet issues. The update also resets network connections – maybe it leaves some things damaged (but that’s a speculation).

I’ve documented a few observations – for instance, that that update will come as an app within my blog post Windows 10: Update KB4023057 released (Dec. 7, 2018)

 

 

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See #239146 above – one user says it caused the computer not to boot. Maybe we have more of a problem here.

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This patch broke my internet. Every 20 min or so my internet just disconnects.

I was on the phone with microsoft for 2 days. They cant roll back the patch, and i have to wait until monday for a level 2 technician. I cannot tell you how rage inducing this whole experience has been.

Roll patch out. Make patch so you cant uninstall. Patch breaks computer.

Woops! We dont know how to fix it!

Took me 2 days to get them to admit it was indeed the patch. They finally admitted to me yes, many users are having this problem. Really? cause your tech spent 2 days convincing me it wasnt the patch.

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To be clear, we did get this specific patch uninstalled. However, my internet problems persist.

Keep losing connection to DNS server. Never once had this problem in over 3000 hrs of use. 12/6, the day this patch was installed on my system, problems ever since.

Microsoft 10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.407)

Can anyone help with this? Getting to the point where i can’t do much of anything. As soon as any network traffic picks up, internet goes down.

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For those of you with Win10 fighting NOT to install KB4023057.

Using Metered connections and wushowhide, there is a way to avoid KB4023057. I have been fighting it myself, and made some revisions on how to hide it (as well as any other updates you don’t want to install). See if this works for you.

See: How to clear the Windows Update queue in Win10.

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I think it installed for me on jan 23, 2019. Computer performance became incredibly worse and by 1/26/2019 my computer was so trashed I had to do a restore – which crashed and now my PC is totally junk. Takes 1 hour to boot a crippled windows. Here is the interesting part: My version of KB4023057 DID NOT LIST “Microsoft Corporation” as the publisher. The publisher field was blank. Does this mean that Microsoft has lost control of the update process? Is someone other than Microsoft able to insert updates?

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Like many other users, Windows just “delivered” this to me and I cannot get it to install on an 1803 machine. Interestingly when I searched online, one of the solutions was to “just upgrade to 1809 and the problem will go away”. Presumably this is because it is a prep patch for 1809, which is no “solution”. LOL? I looked in Apps and Features and it appears I have two previous installs (dated 10/24/18 and 1/5/19). I have seen recommendations to remove them, but am reluctant to do so in case it screws something else up. Anyway, it also showed up in wushowhide, so I just hid it to walk away from the annoyance.

BTW, WRT wushowhide, I have noticed it now doesn’t show any updates to hide until it is too late (e.g. they have already been delivered to my machine). I am guessing this is because the updates are being pushed as soon as my deferment period is over (I have semi-annual channel, 365 day feature update deferment and 30 day quality update set). Anyone have any suggestions as to how to leverage wushowhide more effectively (other than checking every single day) so I can hide stuff until it is REALLY safe to install it?

thanks!

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