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ISSUE 20.08 • 2023-02-20 PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley Not feeling the love from Microsoft this month? That might be because the company is saying good
[See the full post at: Microsoft kills off Internet Explorer — mostly]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
As I recall, IE was entirely removed from W10 starting with version 21H2? I did a new install of W10 Pro 21H2 using media creation tool and believe IE was gone already. That was back in March 2022, but that would imply this update does not affect my system? Any thoughts are appreciated.
I just checked, and IE11 is still on my Windows 10 21H2 system:
Maybe this is one of those situations where different users have received different sets of changes despite nominally being on the same Windows version.
We have been able to remove Edge from Windows PCs using the free version of Revo Uninstaller.
https://www.revouninstaller.com/products/revo-uninstaller-free/
Fred, after tandem W10 comparison with the MS catalog and WU (using WUMgr) methods, the catalog method wins here, once CU is downloaded, update OFFLINE for no chredge reintroduction 
You might try to check your “default programs” to see if Edge is the default program to open .PDF files. Go into control panel and select default programs to designate Adobe Acrobat Reader as the program to use to open .PDF files. I suspect this will address your issue with Edge being used to read and/or print this file type. Hope this helps you out.
….review your settings for uBlock Origin; consider the addition of custom filters such as Hide Youtube shorts, and consider blocking remote fonts (which will speed up your browsing).
I use uBlock Origin and appreciated Susan’s suggestions. However, I found that enabling “block remote fonts” caused a serious display issue in my Google Calendar in chromium based Brave browser which is my primary browser. uBlock flags this as a possible issue and allows the “block remote fonts” setting on a site by site basis. I haven’t set this up yet, but will.
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It doesn’t work is not a description of your problem. Please provide a description of your problem.
Luck we are still using Windows 7 on most of our systems. There is no worries about IE11 being mess up by MS. Time to deal with the next ticket for this well I am on my lunch break…..100+ more tickets to go…..
I get the impression that he is in IT, is already successfully dealing with the problem, and not specifically asking for help.
Edge with IE11 mode does NOT WORK.
Indicates that in his business’s software environment, they are using a tightly locked down version of IE (the mining company I retired from did the same) and the update pooched it. In my old company, company wide announcements or news items of note would arrive as an attachment in email which opened in IE like a YouTube video.
It has ~13,000 employees and ~5,000 of them have PC’s. The company stayed with Windows 7 Enterprise until 2021 when they went to Windows 10 Enterprise. I retired before then, but I would not be in least surprised that they are still using IE. The IT department pushes updates (mostly for proprietary software) on occasion on the weekend. I’m relatively certain that they didn’t get bothered by this IE thing.
Time to deal with the next ticket for this well I am on my lunch break…..100+ more tickets to go…..
Wow you are allowed lunch break. This mess up from MS has made our boss make us work 14+hours and no lunch break and only 5 min bath breaks. Plus we have over 7000 tickets in our queue to clear at the moment. All together had 10,000 for IE11 issues before we were forced to work to clear them plus dealing with other tickets not related to this issues. (IE forgotten password, disconnect USB and mouse not working, printing issues etc). There was email sent to employees months ago but none of them understand the impact. MS employees should be layoff for causing this massacre of problem. They work without real work experience.
This smells of a lack of planning and testing causing unnecessary work for support and headache for the users.
No way I would work a 14 hour day and miss breaks. Nobody performs well under those circumstances and mistakes happen. Go home at the correct time and come back rested and refreshed. A healthy, less stressed workforce is more productive and responsive.
cheers, Paul
Go home at the correct time and come back rested and refreshed.
Easy to say when it’s not your job on the line. Back in my working days I put in many a 14+ hour day. “Go home at the correct time.” would mean “Don’t come back. You can be replaced.” And I worked as a salaried employee for a Fortune 500 company.
Hourly employees had a union, which also meant that they had a contract. “Go home at the correct time.” without proper relief would mean termination.
I have removed:
multiple times using Revo Uninstaller and they always return. Until I can figure out a way to permanently uninstall these two Microsoft programs, they will remain in place and largely ignored.
Until I can figure out a way to permanently uninstall these two Microsoft programs, they will remain in place and largely ignored.
I doubt you’ll be able to find a way to keep them permanently uninstalled, since they get re-installed via cumulative updates. If the update routine sees that you don’t have it, it installs it.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit = 404 Page not found
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit = 404 Page not found
EDIT: But download available from;
I don’t mind having Edge installed. I don’t use it, but like to load it once in a while and see what MS is doing with it, however…
I DO stop it from loading on boot. Edge does not show in the windows Task Manager Startup tab, but does with Autoruns. When Edge is updated, the start on boot is re-enabled and has to be unchecked in Autoruns again.
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When Edge is updated, the start on boot is re-enabled and has to be unchecked in Autoruns again.
Disabling Startup Boost at Edge, Settings, System should prevent that.
Sometimes Edge has multiple instances running in the background, and some of those instances use a lot of resources.
From edge://settings/system you can turn off the “Continue running background extensions and apps when Microsoft Edge is closed” setting.
There is also an ” Turn on efficiency mode” option that might help.
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Am in the process of removing it again using Revo Uninstaller.
Revo Uninstaller doesn’t quite get it all, like the folder and subfolders in C:\Program Files (x86). After my last round of uninstalling Edge, I also manually deleted those folders. In addition, I opened Services.msc—Run as administrator, scrolled down to
Microsoft Edge Update Service (edgeupdate)
Microsoft Edge Update Service (edgeupdatem)
and disabled those services. I’ll have to wait until the next Update Tuesday to see if that works, and I’ll update after that time.
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