No, I don’t make this stuff up.Last month, we had four botched patches sent down the Automatic Update chute.This month, it’s six.Admittedly, most of t
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Microsoft botches six (yes, six) Black Tuesday patches: KB 2876063, KB 2859537, KB 2873872, KB 2843638, KB 2843639, and KB 2868846
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ManagerAugust 15, 2013 at 7:05 pm #54249Viewing 25 reply threadsAuthorReplies-
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GuestAugust 15, 2013 at 9:17 pm #54250Woody, thanks for the diligence. I’m a desktop support manager for a Univerisity and am constantly fighting with the security department about why I don’t patch sooner. Your articles help me prove my point. Quick question, I really hate when MS has a prerequisite patch requirement, and then something borks because you don’t have the pre-req. Sometimes those are recommended patches that I don’t apply as a rule. Would it be so hard for them to put in a “detect” feature to any that do require a pre-req and install it for you if you don’t have it?
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AskWoody_MVPAugust 17, 2013 at 2:56 am #54257Just saw this on Neowin.net recently Aug. 16:
Microsoft pulls two of its Patch Tuesday security updatesMicrosoft has yanked security patches MS13-061 and MS13-066 off their web site due to the problems they have caused. Seems like they’ve been rushed too quickly.
woody, I’m thinking the MS-DEFCON level should be at 1 instead of 2 since at least two patches have been recalled by Microsoft.
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AskWoody PlusAugust 17, 2013 at 3:30 am #54258Three updates from July that you recommended we not install (KB2803821..Security Update, and KB 2840628 and KB2844286..both .NET updates) if you didn’t install them are repeated on the August updates. Are we still on hold for them? I have not been able to find anything anywhere that says they have been fixed. Susan Bradley did say a couple days ago that the .NET updates have been repeated in Aug and if you should install them or in some cases, reinstall them. By my read, the only non server update you mentioned for Aug that is a problem is KB2859537, a security update. I assume, though, we are still on hold for the rest as well?
Thanks.iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)
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GuestAugust 17, 2013 at 4:59 am #54260I was vacationing, away from all my computers, for all of the month of July, so the last time I patched was June 5, before June black Tuesday. Clearly we’re at defcon 2 for the August patches. Should I still be waiting for an all-clear before I apply *any* patches from the June, July and August offerings?
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GuestAugust 18, 2013 at 3:45 am #54262All the July .NET patches (including the ones I had issues with)have been reissued, and must be reapplied. Don’t be surprised to see them reoffered even if you thought you got them installed last month. (Sigh.) This from Susan Bradley’s Windows Secrets Patch Watch column this week. (Paid content.)
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GuestAugust 19, 2013 at 2:03 pm #54263In yet another side-effect of my July 2013 MS Updates patching experience, I found that my Toshiba Satellite’s Intel Rapid Storage Technology (RST) Driver and Service had stopped functioning. I don’t think this was a .NET issue. Probably a kernel driver patch issue.
Anyway, I updated from Version 9 of the RST driver to Version 12 (got it from MajorGeeks) and found that after rediscovery of the device, my internal SATA hard drive is working up to speed for the first time in a few months.
So it may have been a previous issue, but the July patches sure didn’t help with that driver issue!
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GuestAugust 20, 2013 at 6:42 am #54268Okay I’ll give you that the Exchange one and the ADFS one got badly tested/released, but KB2859537 is looking strongly to be a repeat of a root kit revealer. I have installed it just fine on several of my machines.
I wouldn’t be so quick to beat up Microsoft on that kernel update just yet.
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GuestAugust 20, 2013 at 1:40 pm #54269Looks like another case where a rootkit interferes with a Windows kernel patch:
http://jameswatt.me/2013/08/18/microsoft-update-kb2859537-prevents-pc-from-booting-if-rootkit-is-present/ -
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GuestAugust 26, 2013 at 4:35 am #54271Woody,
So still holding off applying any updates — but I had a question. In my gmail account, I stupidly opened up an email that was in my spam folder that said it was from USPS about a package not being able to deliver. I had reason to believe (well, without thinking) that it could have been legitiate, but it obviously wasn’t. I didn’t click on any links in the email (of course) and just deleted it. Do I have to worry about possibly having got something bad on my system from just opening the email in gmail? Especially with not having applied any MS Updates the last two times (while waiting for your all clear)? Thanks!
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GuestAugust 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm #54273Thanks, Woody. Just to verify — there weren’t any attachments (I don’t believe), but it wanted me to click on a link in the email. Some images from the email were blocked (I think), but the USPS banner image did show up. I did not click on anything though. So nothing embedded in the html of the email can automatically do anything from just opening up the email in gmail? Sorry to bug again, but just want to make sure. Thanks!
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ManagerAugust 28, 2013 at 10:27 pm #54274@Jack –
That’s correct. Once upon a time it was possible to get infected by just looking at an email in Outlook, but those days are long gone. And if you’re using Gmail or Outlook.com or Yahoo Mail (which I heartily recommend), they’re all very sophisticated at trapping that kind of problem.
On the other hand, if you open an attachment and tell Windows that you want to install a program — then you’ve pulled out the gun, aimed it right at your foot, and pulled the trigger…
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