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I’ve updated the master patch list here. It’s the first of the year and I have personally seen one issue whereby I atempted to install 2025-01 Securi
[See the full post at: Master patch listing for January 2025]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Windows 10 Pro 22H2.
Updated Jan. 2025.
All is well.
I’ve updated the master patch list here. It’s the first of the year and I have personally seen one issue whereby I atempted to install 2025-01 Securi
[See the full post at: Master patch listing for January 2025]
Thank you, Susan, PK & the entire eval team for your tireless efforts to evaluate updates and keep everyone’s system stable. Your passion for what you do is evident in your articles. As a fellow developer, I know what you do is not easy & not without “hair-pulling”.
I keep an eye on your recommendations, just wished I possessed the level of understanding you all do!
I am currently running InControl to stay on 11, 23H2 & use Windows Update in settings. I see you all discussing WUMgr. I see it on GitHub but have not installed it yet. Is there a big advantage for a non-commercial user to use it to monitor updates?
I click, “Check for Updates”, weekly. The screenshot below shows one of my recent updates where it downloaded the updates while I had walked away for a few minutes (funny how it happens that way). Since they had already installed while I was away & I hadn’t had a chance to review & approve them via the Master Patch List, I held my breath and clicked, “Restart”. It was another plug-&-pray moment which fortunately worked out ok this time.
Plus, this morning while I was watching TV, I saw a notification pop up on Win 11. It said the computer will reboot outside of normal hours. I had not downloaded nor installed anything so I’m assuming it was a security patch, but how do we know?
Any comments or suggestions?
Any time you click “check for updates” – it doesn’t mean “check”
It means check then download and install everything available.
Windows Update, wushowhide, and WUMgr all use the Windows Update Service to check for updates. If you use “Pause” it disables the Windows Update Service so none of the three can check for updates.
If you use wushowhide or WUMgr to control updates (lets you hide updates and download/install them when you want as on Win7/8/8.1) you should NOT use “Pause Updates.” Given that, you can use WUMgr to control the download/install of updates so you don’t get a surprise. You can hide updates you don’t want to install and designate when you want to install the rest. It lets you wait until Susan changes the DEFCON number to say the updates most likely won’t cause a problem for your PC or cause you unexpected installs with reboots.
If you have the Pro Edition, you can do a similar thing with a combination of wushowhide.digicab and Group Policy.
You only need wushowhide in conjunction with the Group Policy (Pro Edition only) settings. WUMgr does all that and works for Home Edition also. Under the Tools Forum there’s a guide for it’s use. It works on Win 11 as well.
To help you understand the Group Policy settings, read AKB2000016. It’s about Win10, but the ideas applie to Win11 as well. In Win11, the settings are the same but just in slightly different locations under “Windows Update.” There are screenshots at the bottom to give you an idea where to start looking.
Any time you click “check for updates” – it doesn’t mean “check”
It means check then download and install everything available.Windows Update, wushowhide, and WUMgr all use the Windows Update Service to check for updates. If you use “Pause” it disables the Windows Update Service so none of the three can check for updates.
If you use wushowhide or WUMgr to control updates (lets you hide updates and download/install them when you want as on Win7/8/8.1) you should NOT use “Pause Updates.” Given that, you can use WUMgr to control the download/install of updates so you don’t get a surprise. You can hide updates you don’t want to install and designate when you want to install the rest. It lets you wait until Susan changes the DEFCON number to say the updates most likely won’t cause a problem for your PC or cause you unexpected installs with reboots.
If you have the Pro Edition, you can do a similar thing with a combination of wushowhide.digicab and Group Policy.
I have been using InControl to protect against Microsoft enthusiasm, especially 24H2. Very nice…..
I also installed WUMgr, but am curious what the recommended options are. I’m using the defaults now. Suggestions?
Today, WUMgr is showing an available update, but my Dell Update app does not show it. Windows update doesn’t show amnything either, but I wouldn’t expect it to in this case since it’s a video driver.
I have been using InControl to protect against Microsoft enthusiasm, especially 24H2. Very nice…..
InControl controls version updates (Win10 -> Win11, 22H2 -> 23H2, 23H2 -> 24H2). It does not control the monthly Patch Tuesday patches or anything else offered by Windows Update.
I also installed WUMgr, but am curious what the recommended options are. I’m using the defaults now. Suggestions?
Also Win11.
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/60002-guide-to-using-wumgr-for-windows-10-updates/
Today, WUMgr is showing an available update, but my Dell Update app does not show it. Windows update doesn’t show anything either, but I wouldn’t expect it to in this case since it’s a video driver.
Do you have Group Policy set to NOT include drivers? Do you have WUMgr set to NOT include drivers? Both can do this. And AskWoody recommends getting your drivers from your computer OEM or the device mfg. instead of MS.
I’ve been using WUMgr since 2019 and here’s my settings.
BTW, WUMgr is showing the NVIDIA driver update because the Include Drivers option in WUMgr’s Auto Update tab is checked. If you uncheck it, it won’t show driver updates.
Also, the Automatic Update (default) item on mine doesn’t show as enabled because I have the Configure Automatic Updates Group Policy set to 2- Notify for download and and auto install.
Also, the Automatic Update (default) item on mine doesn’t show as enabled because I have the Configure Automatic Updates Group Policy set to 2- Notify for download and and auto install.
I am using Win 11, 23H2 Home. I was told I do not have access to policy editor with this version, need professional.
In any event, the driver shows up regardless of the checkbox status (
, 
, 
). I just won’t install drivers via WUMgr, NP. After I made that screenshot, I tried with the settings you posted….same result. Maybe it’s a Home edition thing.
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