Logitech Wireless Mouse Lag on Windows 10

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Hiya. Has anyone heard of any workarounds or fixes to Microsoft’s current patch insanities and how they affect mouse lag? It seems that since I acquiesced to all the forced, unwelcome, destructive Windows 10 updates Microsoft has caused annoying mouse lag for all my Logitech Marathon M705 mice. This doesn’t stop me from using the PC but it instead it reduced my efficiency because I’m very fast with using and navigating in Windows.  I’m running an eight-core, water-cooled box on 10’s Home edition with 32 GB of RAM so it’s not likely to be a hardware issue. Microsoft has been borrowing pages from Apple’s six-year long iOS playbook, with the release of its own destructive, garbage-fire updates. Dank je for any assistance or leads

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Have you tried updating the drivers for the mouse (mice)? MS is good about substituting their own drivers for hardware, especially in Win10

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Mr. Austin

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Good idea. Sparked by your idea I just now tried Logitech’s Unifying Receiver firmware update. Surprisingly it helped a little but didn’t completely eliminate the lag. https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035037273

So maybe I could nose around at the Logitech site and see if there might be a way I can download their mouse driver and overwrite Windows’ imperiously redundant arrogance

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PS, PKCano… in checking Microsoft’s Device Manager I see a tell-tale date of 8-29-19 indicating the dreaded 1903 update although the driver claims it’s signed for 2006. Screenshots attached.

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in my opinion, and I may be wrong…microsoft no longer is willing to support older devices…i have the same issue with my hp laserjet 2300n…no longer provides a driver…have to use the universal driver, that does allow me to choose a source…

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Yeah that might be possible for Microflabby these days. Yet Logitech still sells the M705 and also keeps its software in great shape over the (two!) decades I’ve been using them.

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PS 2, PKCano… Here’s a second Device Manager tab showing the 8-29-19 date under Events.

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Pursuing the driver solution should be followed to conclusion. As another line to investigate please read Fred Langa’s article Free Tools Help Prevent Universal Serial Bus Slowdowns in this week’s newsletter. It may describe another reason for lag.

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Thanks… I glanced at Fred’s USB solutions flow chart and although I feel it could work, it involves complex levels of geekery which I’m unwilling to do

I also feel like if I’ve paid Microsoft to design and maintain Windows I’d prefer not to use Do-It-Yourself patching at such a complex level.

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I can agree that when you purchase an item it should keep working the way you expect. And I understand looking for a simple solution.

What I hoped for Fred Langa’s article to suggest to you is that modern fast Universal Serial Bus controllers may self limit to match the slowest device sharing the bus. This may include an old mouse, or any other device using an outdated standard.

If this does not describe your conditions then I hope a better driver can be found. When you do not find satisfaction, you may chose to purchase a new mouse designed for today’s USB standards. This may cooperate better with the other modern devices sharing the bus.

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Do you have another model/brand wireless mouse with the matched receiver? Have you a wired USB mouse to test for lagged input?

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Hiya. Has anyone heard of any workarounds or fixes to Microsoft’s current patch insanities and how they affect mouse lag? It seems that since I acquiesced to all the forced, unwelcome, destructive Windows 10 updates Microsoft has caused annoying mouse lag for all my Logitech Marathon M705 mice. This doesn’t stop me from using the PC but it instead it reduced my efficiency because I’m very fast with using and navigating in Windows.  I’m running an eight-core, water-cooled box on 10’s Home edition with 32 GB of RAM so it’s not likely to be a hardware issue. Microsoft has been borrowing pages from Apple’s six-year long iOS playbook, with the release of its own destructive, garbage-fire updates. Dank je for any assistance or leads

Thanks for posting this.  I’ve experienced the same lag with Logitech Performance MX mouse.  But the dreaded 1903 appears nowhere.  However, ” 7/20/2019 6:36:20 PM Device Install Requested,”  in Device Manager Logitech HID-compliant Unifying Mouse.  I have Win Update paused till 11/15, and last cumulative update was installed 8/11/2019.  Logitech has a firmware update tool for 8/20/2019, Brings the latest version of the firmware (FW) to supported devices. Adds- Bug fixes and security improvements.  At https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035037273-Firmware-Update-Tool

Hope this helps.

 

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I haven’t yet tried a wired mouse although I have one as an emergency spare. If I get annoyed enough with the wireless problem I might try that

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AlexCris, thank you. I did find Logitech’s wireless firmware update and curiously enough it helped for about a day. But then it was back to SN,AFU :- /

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You have a spare wired mouse, you could try rolling back the MS drivers to the previous versions via Device Manager.

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Thank you, friendly Anon. My Logitech M705 mice were purchased for their comparatively ergonomic comfort on my own hands. If there’s a newer mouse from a whack-name Chinese manufacturer which has functioning, newer drivers, that might be a faster, simpler option than trying to solve a problem inside Microsoft’s labyrinthine and now careless software environments.

Instead of me expecting Microsoft to actually manage the (formerly smooth) usuability of its suffering operating system, maybe I’ll also feel like it’s an option to consider what master Woody observed in his newsletter of this morning.

The mouse lag problem and maybe two other little OS anomalies appeared right after the abysmal 1803. Since it looks like Microsoft will continue to release less-than-dogmeat updates to its OS maybe I might cross-grade my OS from Home to Professional so I can take the steps needed to perform my own patch management of the OS. Although I’m capable of this I was hoping to avoid it.

Once upon a time I used a patch management server on a former client’s Windows server to put the craziness of each client machine’s patch needs into the container of a server management console.

anonymous wrote:

I can agree that when you purchase an item it should keep working the way you expect. And I understand looking for a simple solution.

What I hoped for Fred Langa’s article to suggest to you is that modern fast Universal Serial Bus controllers may self limit to match the slowest device sharing the bus. This may include an old mouse, or any other device using an outdated standard.

If this does not describe your conditions then I hope a better driver can be found. When you do not find satisfaction, you may chose to purchase a new mouse designed for today’s USB standards. This may cooperate better with the other modern devices sharing the bus.

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You have not shared what other USB devices were exposed by the USBView tool or comparable gadget that may have indicated whether this is or is not a factor. You have set it aside to pursue another plan. That is good. It appears you have also concluded your efforts to find a more appropriate driver. Please return later to let us know if the Professional edition opened the labyrinth enough to slay the Minotaur that delays your Marathon. Good hunting, Sir.

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Lag on K350 keyboard and M705 Mouse:

I had a terrible lag that rendered the components unusable. Did some digging and found this. Plugged the receiver into the USB Extension Cord that came with the keyboard and plugged the extension cord into my laptop (most others called it the Logitech Dongle). This allows the receiver to be about 2 feet away from the laptop and closer to the keyboard and mouse. All lagging was corrected and as of right now, has not reappeared in 7 hours or so – absolutely no lagging.

I think the issue is interference from PCs using Windows 10 in conjunction with the bluetooth signal the PC emanates. I have a brand new laptop and, like nearly everyone else, didn’t have this issue with my older laptop and MS Win 7.

Good luck!

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Although I’d no longer been subscribed to this thread, I just now happened to find your response and idea. It’s worth a try, so thank you. I originally had Logitech’s Bluetooth mouse dongle plugged into my monitor, which has its own USB 2.x hub, which is less than a foot from the keyboard. When I moved the dongle from the monitor-mounted hub, onto the back panel of my desktop and into a USB 3.x port, where it sits now, the symptoms remained the same. I’ll later try your idea and aim to post again here when I have a result.

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I have always deliberately hidden device driver updates which come from Microsoft. Why? Because in the past I have encountered issues on several occasions. I suggest going to Logitech’s website and downloading and installing their latest drivers for your mouse.

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Well, now. It’s quite a long time since I started this thread. Since the time I did, I’m still using a Logitech M705 mouse, and the mouse pointer still exhibits some lag and stickiness. But yesterday when I was doing my usual scans of the Programs installed on the box I found something goofy and fishy. I snapped an image of it. The computer is *not* an HP box and never has been. It’s predecessor was. And when I migrated all my stuff from the old box to the new one (September 2019) I used PC Mover, not Microsoft’s Windows 7 to 10 migration utilities, and not any HP utilities because they were even more fiddly than Microsoft’s.

The long story short about this was that PC Mover *seemed* to work OK, but the new machine still had non-USB Windows issues which were eventually resolved by a 3rd-level Windows engineer while I watched.

Just now I removed these “Hewlett-Packard USB” drivers. Look at their publication date! September 2015! Wow! And, no, I didn’t install them in April of 2022. Testing and time will tell me if this makes any difference. So far, so good. I created a system restore point before I removed them.

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Guess what (former) symptom seems to be absent today after removing the HP drivers above? Mouse lag .

The testing continues.

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What fixed this problem for me was ensuring I had no other mice or drivers downloaded to my computer.
Apparently differing drivers from multiple mouse outputs can cause conflicts. My computer had 3 different mice registered lol
Just a heads up if you’ve used several mice in the past.

Go into Device Manager, isolate your current mouse, (you can hit tab, arrow keys and enter to use your keyboard to re-enable your mouse if you accidentally disable your current one lol,) then uninstall all the old mice you might have on your computer.
It really helped.

(Heads up, mine was a wired mouse. Sometimes wireless mice also get radio interference, so shutting off other Bluetooth devices and wi-fi connections that aren’t in use can help.)

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My wireless mouse got dirty and the thumb wheel would spasmodically move pages up and down.

Once I took it apart and throughly cleaned the sides of the thumb wheel on both sides and knocked all the other ‘crap’ that the mouse had accumulated over the past decade or so – it works much better.

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Until several days ago I’d still been fiddling with wonky mouse issues. I’d been using a Logitech wired mouse. The problem was solved by replacing both the mouse and mousepad. In this case, I wanted good precision with minimal effort, So I got this new Logitech G305 mouse to solve the immediate need of having a smoothly-working mouse.

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