Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder

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My network is based on a Desktop computer running Windows XP Home SP3. A notebook running Vista Home Premium is seen on the Desktop computer but the Desktop is not seen on the Vista notebook. The Ethernet is provided by a NetGear DG834N ADSL wireless router and Internet connectivity is good both by Ethernet and wireless.

As the result of much trawling I found that the problem could be that the Desktop does not have Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder installed and that KB922120 refers. I have downloaded the package from the link in the article and on running the EXE file the following is displayed:
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KB922120 Setup Error

X Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of this system is newer than the update you are applying.

There is no need to install this update.
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If so my question has to be why is the network connection one-way? Any help to resolve this most irritating difficulty would be much appreciated.

As an idea would upgrading to Windows 7 on both computers be a possible answer? It would be a somewhat expensive way to achieve a solution (£127 for two upgrades from Tesco Direct!)

Malcolm Walker

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Check your firwall settings.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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Check your firwall settings.

Thank you for your reply but Windows firewalls are off and there are no third party firewalls.

Malcolm

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Thank you for your reply but Windows firewalls are off and there are no third party firewalls.

Malcolm

See How to get LLTD to work in SP3 for instructions.

Joe

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See How to get LLTD to work in SP3 for instructions.

Joe

Thank you for the pointer Joe; I now have the Responder on my Desktop.

Unfortunately I have met with another problem. Trying to make a fresh start I deleted the network from my notebook. Now when I click connect to my network the following is displayed:
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Windows Security
Network Authentication
Please enter user credentials
Username
Password
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I have tried several combinations of usernames and password known to me without sucess and I would like to know what comprises these credentials.

Malcolm

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Thank you for the pointer Joe; I now have the Responder on my Desktop.

Unfortunately I have met with another problem. Trying to make a fresh start I deleted the network from my notebook. Now when I click connect to my network the following is displayed:
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Windows Security
Network Authentication
Please enter user credentials
Username
Password
__________________

I have tried several combinations of usernames and password known to me without sucess and I would like to know what comprises these credentials.

Malcolm

If you are try to connect to the desktop PC, it is a username and password that has access to the desktop PC.

Joe

--Joe

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If you are try to connect to the desktop PC, it is a username and password that has access to the desktop PC.

Joe

I don’t log-in to either of these computers. And I am most reluctant to do strart doing so. I wonder if there is a workaround?

Malcolm

Notwithstanding I set a password for my Desktop and rebooting I had to log-in. I then tried to connect my laptop to the network and in the Authentication dialogue my Desktop user name and password were not accepted. I still have a one-way Ethernet connection but that doesn’t meet my needs.

Malcolm

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Vista and Windows 7 likes to have the SAME windows user name and passwords on all networked machines. It sure does works very smooth when one does it this way.

But if you don’t want to use the same account and passwords, then enter a user name and password that is on the “Other” machine and you may get in. A account with NO password may not work at all.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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Vista and Windows 7 likes to have the SAME windows user name and passwords on all networked machines. It sure does works very smooth when one does it this way.

But if you don’t want to use the same account and passwords, then enter a user name and password that is on the “Other” machine and you may get in. A account with NO password may not work at all.

Dave – Thank you. I was working through StuartR’s check list when I received your message and had just reached the very point of the same user names and passwords on each computer.

Having set common user names and passwords I have logged-in with no change to the previous behaviour. I still have a one-way connection. Btw inbetween times I have upgraded my notebook to Windows 7 Home Premium.

It is past time for me to retire – I will resume the struggle later today!

Malcolm

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One way connection is telling me that you have something blocking the machine that you can not access. On the machine that can see the other what AV and other protection programs do you have running?

What AV and protection programs do you have on each of these machine?

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I believe the problem is solved. I worked through StuartR’s check list and at the end there are two items for NET VIEW. These showed that the server on my desktop was not running. I changed its settings from manual to automatic and started it. And my Desktop appeared on my notebook!

Dave my thanks for your interest and encouragement also Joe Perez. And a thank you to StuartR for the check list. Perhaps I’ll also be able to connect by wireless? I’m hoping

Malcolm

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I believe the problem is solved. I worked through StuartR’s check list and at the end there are two items for NET VIEW. These showed that the server on my desktop was not running. I changed its settings from manual to automatic and started it. And my Desktop appeared on my notebook!

Dave my thanks for your interest and encouragement also Joe Perez. And a thank you to StuartR for the check list. Perhaps I’ll also be able to connect by wireless? I’m hoping

Malcolm

Glad you got it working. Thanks for posting back.

Good luck with the wireless connection. We’ll be here if you need assistance.

Joe

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Glad you got it working. Thanks for posting back.

Good luck with the wireless connection. We’ll be here if you need assistance.

Joe

Thank you Joe – I was able to achieve a wireless connection without too much trouble. I’m chuffticated as we say in Liverpool!

Malcolm

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Excuse my intruding, MalcolmWalker, I want to look the StuartR’s checklist you mentioned, but I can’t find it in this thread, nor searching the lounge or google. Would you please let me know where can I find it? Or, if StuartR gave it to you directly, could you post it here? Thanks in advance.

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Excuse my intruding, MalcolmWalker, I want to look the StuartR’s checklist you mentioned, but I can’t find it in this thread, nor searching the lounge or google. Would you please let me know where can I find it? Or, if StuartR gave it to you directly, could you post it here? Thanks in advance.

See http://bro.ws/589883L.

Joe

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Excuse my intruding, MalcolmWalker, I want to look the StuartR’s checklist

I see Joe has responded already. Good luck with your checks!

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Thank you very much. There is so many Stuart’s posts that was difficult for me to find that specific one.

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Thank you very much. There is so many Stuart’s posts that was difficult for me to find that specific one.

Only about 10,000, surely you could have checked them all

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Only about 10,000, surely you could have checked them all

Hello, a very long time has passed.

However, if Stuart is still subscribed here, can you please post a NEW link to your checklist?

Perhaps it could even be posted here directly…..

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Steve, open a new thread with your problem. I’m sure you’ll get more check lists.

cheers, Paul

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