• Laptop Processors

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    #2584279

    Hi Loungers,

    My new job requires a Windows 11 laptop with a “Pentium 4 or equivalent” processor.

    I’ve found an HP laptop on sale with an AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U processor.

    Can you please tell me if that would be equivalent? The HP Chat person had no idea!!

    Thanks for your help…as always!

    Linda

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    • #2584281

      Thanks for all the links, PK, but they don’t seem to answer the key issue.

      I am trying to determine if a new HP Windows 11 laptop I am considering purchasing meets my new employer’s processor spec. Their “system requirements” list a laptop with a “Pentium 4 or equivalent” processor.

      I am not very technical and would just like to know if an AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U processor is equivalent to a Pentium 4 processor.

      The laptop with the AMD processor is much less expensive than one with an Intel Core i3 (which I learned is equivalent).

      Sorry to be a bit dense on this but I truly am 90% clueless on processors – and it’s been 12 years since I purchased my current HP Windows 7 laptop!!

      Thanks for any further guidance you can offer.

      Linda

       

      • #2584287

        Pentium processors were shipped from 2000 until 2008, so they are really old. If, as you say, the AMD is equivalent to a core i3, then the AMD should be superior to the Pentium in every way.

        Whether the AMD is good enough to run Windows 11 is another question, but you should be able to answer that using the first 3 links in @PKCano’s post.

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    • #2584286

      The only Pentium 4 I am aware of is older than your Windows 7 laptop! They were single core CPUs manufactured until 2008, and many of them were 32-bit only. Needless to say, none of them will run Windows 11 out of the box.

      Intel is prone to reusing names, and “Pentium” has been recycled, but I am not aware of a Pentium 4 any newer than that. It seems really weird to mention such an old CPU along with Windows 11, wbich requires new hardware.

      I would imagine any new laptop sold with Windows 11 would meet the requirement of being equivalent to Pentium 4. Even low-end bargain units should meet that low standard.

      Are you sure it was Pentium 4 they stated? It’s just really odd, unless there is another Pentium 4 I am not aware of.

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      • #2584306

        I suspect the employer hasn’t bothered to update their requirement for more than a decade.

        Although …

        Windows 11 runs on PC with ancient single-core Intel Pentium 4 CPU

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        • #2584369

          No TPM, no dual core, certainly not new enough generationally… that’s not what I would call an “out of the box” installation. The hacks to install 11 are well known, but I wouldn’t trust them as MS could close that door any time. Not that anyone did this as anything but a lark anyway, though.

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      • #2584386

        Sorry, meant to post at end of all replies!

        Linda

        • #2584392

          Before you buy a new laptop, check the Win11 hardware requirements as per the links in my post above. There is no use buying one that does not meet today’s requirements. There is no telling when MS will block Win11 on devices not meeting the minimum specs (although Win11 may be installed on such now).

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    • #2584329

      Since the last Intel Pentium 4 processor was released in 2008 and Windows 11 was released October 5, 2021 there is a very high probability that any new Windows 11 PC you purchase today will exceed the Pentium 4 requirement.

      However, you should not be embarrassed to ask your new employer if the PC you are considering meets their requirements.

      One other consideration, you may want to ask your employer if your new PC should have Windows 11 Pro vs Windows 11 Home.

      While unlikely, they may have a special need for a particular system configuration.

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    • #2584333

      Why do you have to purchase a machine that meets their requirements?
      If they have requirements they should be providing the equipment.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2584338

      When you buy a Windows PC preinstalled with Windows 11 the installed CPU doesn’t matter as it is Windows 11 compatible.
      Of course CPU, RAM, SSD storage… does matter regarding performance.
      Microsoft is cutting CPUs from the list of Windows 11 support and will cut more with Windows 12.

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    • #2584339

      Smells of a ‘newbie’ initiation wind-up..
      Ask your employer to provide the laptop and square up later if necessary.

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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      • #2584370

        Smells of a ‘newbie’ initiation wind-up..

        It does seem like one of those things where they ask the newbie to go find a thing that does not exists, but in this case they are actually asking people (from what I gather) to go spend their own money. Kind of a really nasty prank if you make someone spend a thousand bucks on a laptop that it turns out you don’t really need (as they should issue you one if needed for work, as you and Paul have noted).

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    • #2584375

      The  AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U is the rough equivalent of several older Intel Core processors. Those Intel processors far exceed the Pentium 4 in capability.

      If you want an AMD processor and your budget allows it you should look for a newer Ryzen processor. If you want an Intel processor look for an 11th or 12th gen I5 or I7. The I5  processors are usually pretty close in performance to the I7 processors and generally cost significantly less.

       

      --Joe

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    • #2584398

      Wow! Once again, you Loungers have over delivered. Thank you all for ALL this information.

      A couple of clarifications: we have been on the hunt (passively due to budget reasons) for a new laptop for a few months so would have to be purchasing one regardless of the new employer.

      My new employment situation: just part time/hourly for a not for profit  organization here so I understand why they aren’t supplying the computer. I will, however, ask for more details re. requirements now that I know the Pentium 4 standard is so outdated! The requirements were provided by an outside testing  organization (I have to get qualified by taking their online courses).

      However, you should not be embarrassed to ask your new employer if the PC you are considering meets their requirements.

      One other consideration, you may want to ask your employer if your new PC should have Windows 11 Pro vs Windows 11 Home.

      I just did what you suggested, Kathy. Thanks!

      I very much appreciate all your help and advice on this issue. We had a wonderfully helpful and knowledgeable sales guy at Office Depot we always used for computer purchases. He’s no longer there so I feel rather at sea. Thank goodness for this Lounge and all its helpful players!

      Will post back on final decision once it’s made.

      Linda

    • #2584406

      As an alternative to Office Depot, you may want to take a look at BestBuy and/or Micro Center if you are purchasing the PC in the States and there is a store nearby.

      Both BestBuy and Micro Center have websites that can be helpful in your search. But in your case, I recommend that you pickup the PC in the store and get help setting it up.

      Also remember, you may have to purchase software such as Microsoft Office – an additional expense.

      Has the nonprofit told you what software they require you to have?

    • #2584559

      Sounds like your new employer needs an IT bod.  🙂

      Your current machine will do all you need for your new job, but as you are in the market for a new one it makes sense to get W11 if you can.
      Check out new and refurbished machines, including ones with W10 as long as they meet W11 requirements.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2585692

      Thanks, Paul… and everyone.

      An update…a bit late…been busy with online training for this new position.

      As Paul indicated, once I got started on the training, I realized my clunky old Windows 7 desktop did just fine and could handle all my training tasks.

      With the Labor Day sales, I found a good deal on an HP 17″ laptop with Windows 11 Home for only $280. I added better screen resolution for another $40. It has an Athlon Gold processor, but the laptop will ultimately be a back up machine, so it should do just fine.

      I very much appreciate all the advice and suggestions you all offered. As always, this Lounge and its Loungers provided great learning for me!

      Thanks again,

      Linda

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