• KB4023057

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    #2585815

    I performed the August 2023 Windows updates on August 22. Starting yesterday, September 6, I’m now being notified of yet another August 2023 update, namely 2023-08 Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057.) This is on a stand-alone home PC.

    Is KB4023057 OK to install?

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    • #2585828

      KB4023057 is Microsoft’s Update Health Tool.
      It’s purpose is to reset some of your settings to Microsoft’s default.

      I hide it whenever it shows up.

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      • #2585841

        Actually it’s purpose is to review the health of your system to ensure that updates will be installed.  I have not seen it lately make changes to my systems where I’ve let it install.

        That said it may:

        1. Request your device to stay awake longer to enable the installation of updates.
        2. Reset network settings.  <<< this is the one that in some cases in the past people have complained about.  I have not seen it do damage lately.
        3. Repair disabled or corrupted Windows operating system components.
        4. Compress files in your user profile directory to help free up enough disk space.
        5. Reset the Windows Update database to repair the problems. This will clear your Windows Update history.

        Many of these things you want.  If I get it offered I use it as an indicator to take stock of my system and make sure it has plenty of room, it’s happy installing updates, etc.

         

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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        • #2590221

          KB4023057 is still listed as ‘avoid’ in Master Patch List. Please can we have a definitive answer whether we should, could or should not install, and MPL revised if necessary.

          Ta much

          Win10 22H2 Pro, MBAM Premium, Firefox, OpenOffice, Sumatra PDF.
        • #2600944

          Hmm… I have been hiding this update, but notice that I neglected to do so on one of my systems.  I’m unaware of any problems it may have introduced.  What action would you suggest taking?  Uninstall Microsoft Update Health Tools?  Remove the update?  Leave the update and continue to allow future versions of it?  Leave the update, but hide future versions?  Something else?

    • #2585829

      Nothing wrong with KB4023057. I have installed it 10 times with no ill effects.
      No setting has been changed on my Windows 10 Pro.

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      • #2585839

        I found the timing of the update to be … odd. 😉

        I would have expected it to have been offered with the other August updates, not to have been offered to me in September.

        • #2585847

          kb4023057 was re-released on August 24th 2023, that’s why it wasn’t included.
          It gets revamped every so often and rolled out over time to help the functionality of Windows Update..

          Kobac, Can you mark this support question as resolved please 🙂

          If debian is good enough for NASA...
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          • #2585925

            Done.

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          • #2587862

            kb4023057 was re-released on August 24th 2023,

            Why isn’t 2023-08 Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057) listed in the Microsoft Catalog? The latest there is 5/27/2021. Why aren’t later releases there?

            I’ve been trying to find the date of the 2023-08 release and I can’t find it anywhere. Where did you find it?

            • #2587874

              Why isn’t 2023-08 Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057) listed in the Microsoft Catalog? The latest there is 5/27/2021. Why aren’t later releases there?

              Per the KB article itself, this particular update is now available from the MS Download Center, and it now goes by a different name, “Update Health Tools”. Here’s a link to the specific KB article:

              https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4023057-update-health-tools-windows-update-service-components-fccad0ca-dc10-2e46-9ed1-7e392450fb3a

              @WCHS , like you I’m awaiting the answer to your second question, as I couldn’t find a specific date for the latest release in my searches either. I believe that @Microfix was getting the date from the date it was installed, per the screenshot below in post 2585859. Just a guess!

            • #2587886

              I believe that @Microfix was getting the date from the date it was installed, per the screenshot below in post 2585859.

              Re: the screenshot, when I held my mouse over some of the info, a bubble came up that indicated that the info was from WUMgr.

              August 24 must be an installation date, not a release date. On one of my machines, it was in my Windows Update queue on August 26 and I made a note of its appearance before I hid it with WUSHOWHIDE. So, it appears that it doesn’t get delivered on the same date to all machines like the Tuesday Patches.

              I looked at your info link for KB4023057. On my other machine, I had inadvertently installed it on Sept 5 (that’s another delivery/installation date — must not have paid attention to what the gp ‘2 notify download/install’ download button was offering and should have asked WUSHOWHIDE to hide it, instead). I uninstalled it a few hours ago. It seems that it will re-appear in the queue again, sooner or later.

              BTW, the process for downloading in (via a subscription to Intune) is much more complicated than downloading a KB file from the MS Catalog. But, that’s not even a consideration, if I wanted to get it back, since Windows Update will offer it again, once it realizes that I don’t have it installed and it’s no longer in the queue.

              So, this is what I conclude: whereas a “regular” update is in the MS Catalog and has a release date, this KB4023057 is an “irregular” update (it this case it’s called a Windows Update Service Component), it is not in the MS Catalog, it doesn’t have a specific release date, and if you don’t have it installed or hidden, it will be offered again and again.

            • #2587904

              So, this is what I conclude: whereas a “regular” update is in the MS Catalog and has a release date, this KB4023057 is an “irregular” update (it this case it’s called a Windows Update Service Component), it is not in the MS Catalog, it doesn’t have a specific release date, and if you don’t have it installed or hidden, it will be offered again and again.

              Hi WCHS:

              As far as I know these KB4023057 updates are occasionally delivered to my Win 10 laptop by Windows Update to keep my Microsoft Update Health Tools utility up-to-date.

              Go to Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features and look at the Installed On date of your Microsoft Update Health Tools program (highlighted in red below), if present. If that utility is installed the Installed On date likely matches the last install date of KB4023057 (Update Health Tools — Windows Update Service components) listed in your Windows Update history under the heading “Quality Updates”.

              If the Microsoft Update Health Tools program isn’t installed on your system yet then KB4023057 is likely being offered to try to install it.

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Control-Panel-Microsoft-Update-Health-Tools-v3_73_0_0-06-Sep-2023

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Windows-Update-History-KB4023057-NEW-06-Sep-2023

              If you have a Win 10 OS and the Windows PC Health Check tool is also present at Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features (highlighted in green in my first image above with an Installed On date of 28-Apr-2022) then you will also receive the occasional update for KB5005463 (Health Check Application) in your Windows Update history under the heading “Other updates” to keep this tool up-to-date. According to my notes the Windows PC Health Check tool was originally installed on my system by Windows Update on 23-Oct-2021. See Cee Arr’s 21-Oct-2021 thread KB5005463 for further details.

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Windows-Update-History-KB5005463-28-Apr-2022
              —————
              Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3448 * Firefox v117.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23080.2006-1.1.23080.2005 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.2.281-1.0.2131 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279

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        • #2585856

          kb4023057 is released every couple of months. I got it yesterday as stand alone update.

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          • #2585859

            In a tardy queue then..

            wumgrkb4023057

            If debian is good enough for NASA...
          • #2585865

            That date, day and month in the screenshot seems familiar,
            in geek computing terms..
            care to hazzard a guess as to what I’m referring to alex? 🙂

            If debian is good enough for NASA...
    • #2585843

      I decided to install it.

      I got out of all my running programs and proceeded with the update.

      It took just a few seconds to download and install, with no reboot required. I got the “all clear” from the update so I guess I’m OK on that front.

      Thanks for all the replies!

    • #2601760

      I posted what follows this morning 11/11, saw it in the right column New Topics , and NOW cannot find it anywhere other than via a Link I saved….. Adding to this Thread not knowing if I can post same again as a New Thread …..

      A Macrium Image to 11/9 from an 11/10 KB4023057  install solved this For Now BUT NOT the  FIX should I re-install it in the future… I NEVER have issues with CU or WU, even with this KB Update – BUT this time I got a glimpse of Hades as follows:

      I’m Local Acct setup: 2016 Stdnt-Hm Word-Excel showed – Unlicensed – & Error popups prevented use – Repair usually Closed either and I’d briefly see in left column 4-5 Repaired docs to choose from – when it let me it didn’t help.

      WuMgr, IF it opened, would not Scan – do anything; Nirsoft Win History Viewer just scanned and produced no data.

      Run Word as Admin (I was in Admin mode at the time) Failed — No Dup listing of Stdnt-Hm Office in Con Panel – Popup about WU Svc not activated but I did nothing there. In services.msc Windows Update shows Manual, not Automatic, I’m sure from a prior Forum post somewhere BUT WU has always Worked in Manual mode –

      Other than blocking KB4023057 for now, any suggestions as IF or what to do now are appreciated .

       

      W10 Pro 22H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / Macrium Pd vX / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU = 0

    • #2601774

      Although I have been hiding this update, I notice that I apparently neglected to do so on one of my systems. I’m unaware of any problems it may have introduced. What action would you suggest taking? Uninstall Microsoft Update Health Tools? Remove the update? Leave the update and continue to allow future versions of it? Leave the update, but hide future versions? Something else?

    • #2601780

      Leave the update and continue to allow future versions of it

      I already installed KB..057 numerous times (more than 10 times).
      The last time, yesterday. Zero problems.

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