KB or not to KB?

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From Sainty: “To KB, or not to KB, that is the question: Whether ’tis Nobler in the mind to suffer The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Microsoft Or to
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I, for one, wilt not now, or still, KB.

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Just wait till MS gets into genetic engineering employing artificial intelligence to promote universal convergence in the cloud. There will be unlimited opportunity as Cortana uploads you genetic code to the MS trusted partners so you may receive targeted ads for life and medical insurance.

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Like the takeoff on The Bard… But wishing the MS CEO job on Woody is just cruel and unusual punishment!!! ?

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Twould that it be so!
Amen.
LT

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HA! Yeah, I figured that was a curse…

Actually, I wouldn’t mind being CEO for a day, if I could pull down 1/365th of Satya’s compensation.

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Be it the Three Stooges or the Three Monkeys I believe we all know at least one of the three, top executive at M$$$$soft.

No KB here (Group W is it?). Will be updating nevertheless .Net Framework and exceptional security updates such as the issue discovered lately by Google and said to be fixed on tomorrow’s Nov. 8th 2016 Windows Update. That’s all and that’s all, folks!

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I agree with Sanity! I too will be switching to a Mac Book Pro early next year when I hope the holiday pricing settles down.

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Woody, you’d probably need that cash to pay for your therapy after a day in that job.

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HA!

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I love my MacBook Pro Retina. Usually I run BootCamp and Win10 on it, but sometimes I slip over to the dark side.

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Just bought one. But beware of the just-released model — the only ports you’ll get are USB-C ports, which require adapters if you want to plug any “legacy” hardware into them (like a USB 3.0 flash drive or an external hard drive).

If you wait until next year, you’ll probably be stuck with the latest model (fine, if that’s what you want).

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Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.

By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes.
Fasten locks,
M$ KB’s doth knock!

Win10 22H2 Pro, MBAM Premium, Firefox, OpenOffice, Sumatra PDF.

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But by then we’ll have USB-C flash drives and USB-C external HDDs, and USB-C iPhone 8s, etc. It’s where things are going.

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@Woody,

Here’s a bit of an oddity…downloaded October 2016 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 SP1 (KB3188730). Installed.

After rebooting I checked Update History and KB3188720 was successfully installed.
However, it was described as a Security Update for Windows. No mention in Update History that it was a .NET Security Only Update…

What make ye of that given that the catalog specifically describes it as a .NET Security Only Update and in the past any .NET updates were always listed in Update History as .NET updates?

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Interesting. I wouldn’t worry about it – the KB 3188730 article clearly says it’s a .NET update.

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Having suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous updating with the Anniversary Update on two PCs (one of them with the added indignities of WIMBoot and SOC firmware which the AU installer saw fit to overwrite) I am sticking with my current chosen path.

Windows 10 Pro with Carboni mods to control updates and O&O ShutUp 10 for privacy concerns, and Ubuntu Linux (currently 16.04 LTS) in a dual-boot on my NUC PC for everyday computing.

Since Linux doesn’t work well with Bluetooth and media devices and streaming services, I keep Windows around on my tablet for the fun and games times.

I am not interested in investing in new streaming and networking hardware just to spite Microsoft, so a Mac is definitely not in my future. A Chromebook maybe, but never anything from Apple.

The right tool for the right job, I say.

Alas, poor Windows 7. I knew him well, Horatio.

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Except for religiously avoiding the pricey iPhone, I am there already. With a Windows 10 Intel NUC PC.

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I already get those target insurance ads, no AI or MS Cloud necessary.

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Those are wise words, by a wise man, sure!

hihi. I’m totally happy with my new i-mac, as I was so done with Windows. My daughter had to buy a macbook for school, so, perfect for her. We’re all good for now. Still have 2 laptop on w7. Prayers sent to keep them running fine until their dead!

BUT, my daughter bought a gaming PC some months ago, and apparently, windows update is now totally broken. Anniversary update never installed, I did nothing to force or block. But yesterday, when I want to open WU parameters, a blank page welcomes me. MS broke MS!! Cool. I won’t touch nothing.

Maybe, there will be a miracle, and everything will be fine tomorrow. Maybe it’s just a dream. The computer, indeed, works fine. I don’t care about updates finally LOL

By the way, I love the Sainty’s prose. It made my day!

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@Woody,

Mea Culpa…of course my original post should read…
“After rebooting I checked Update History and KB3188730 was successfully installed.”

With all this KB crappola, it’s so easy to typo a KB as my eyes glaze over…

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Hhehehehe is this Hamlet or a William Shakespeare session were having while using Microsoft and computer stuff in it? But still enjoying it and quite creative I gotta say.

Alas what light beyond thy windows 7 breaks?
It is the east, yet KB is the west.

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Here, here!

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I have read MS’s explanation for cumulative updates, and reducing fragmentation, reducing the size of downloads, and the rest of the marketing bs.

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.

On the eve of the November Patch Tues I will wax KB-etic.

I have put most of my “flock” on Automatic (that seems to cause a big uproar here) along with warnings about the snooping and possible bad patches, b/c I believe they need to be patched. And they are not capable of or are not willing to take responsibility.

Background: My Win7/8.1 computers have always been set to “Search but let me choose” with the “Give me recommended” box checked. I have not culled updates in the past until the GWX campaign (my block list is here https://www.askwoody.com/2016/the-latest-kb-blacklist/#comment-91701).
After GWX, I unhid all the updates. From what showed up in search afterward, I have continued to hide on Win7/8.1 KB2952664/KB2976978, KB3068708 (both), KB3080149 (both), KB3021917 (Win7) and KB3044374 (Win8.1) – these are the only ones I’ve seen recur since GWX. I have not seen KB3150513 b/c KB2952664 in not installed but I would not install it either. And last, I hid KB3184143 (both) b/c MS information said it “replaced” (not “removed”) GWX components and I don’t trust MS not to replace them with something equally as intrusive – GWX components were never installed anyway.

October Updates:
I went ahead and installed the October Security Monthly Quality Rollup KB3185330/KB3185331 for Win7/8.1 as well as the full rollups for .NET – I didn’t see anything that I thought was objectionable.

November and onward Updates:
Starting with November Patch Tues. the method changes. I will leave the “Give me recommended” box checked. My idea being, I want to see where MS is going.
From this point forward I will download the security-only Windows rollups from the Catalog. I do NOT intend to install the Security Monthly Quality Rollups (security + non-security).
I will check on the content of the other offered patches. My intention is to accept the rest (.NET, IE, Office, Flash, etc) unless I see something that specifically makes changes in telemetry or curtails the control over the OS. I will, of course, give it at least a couple of weeks delay to be sure there are no broken patches.
This gives me the closest to being “fully patched” I am willing to accept.
Somewhat of a hybrid between Group A and Group B.

This is, of course, subject to change. For example, if MS issues bad security patches and only fixes them through non-security updates, I may have to reconsider.

But, MS:
“If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”

I now live on Macs and Windows is only a VM!!!

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Sainty did right with those MacBook Pros.

My 13″ MacBook Pro (without Retina) with the CD drive went from Lion, to Mountain Lion, to Maverics, to Yosemite, to El Capitan without a hitch. It now runs Sierra like a natural.

It went from 4GB RAM and a 512 GB HDD to 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD without a hitch.

It has USB (not C), firewire, and mini display/firewire ports. And I have dongles – for VGA, DVI, HDMI, RS232.

It is still fast and I still use it.

But had it been a Windows machine back when I bought it, it would have been replaced three times by now!

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USB-C may be coming to devices near and dear to us, but not, I suspect, at “thunderbolt” speed. In any case, opting for that technology makes using “legacy” devices inconvenient at best. I don’t expect my TV’s HDMI port to turn into a USB-C port; nor do I expect all the Windows 7 computers in my household to begin magically sprouting USB-C ports.

I’m not a Luddite, but I don’t feel like investing in a bunch of dongles to make my current, highly usable USB hardware work with a cutting-edge product.

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No updates for w7, period. No updates for w10 until I have a way to eliminate Cortana, edge and any other useless bloat Ms imposes.

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Woody probably. But those who do reach those jobs do so bcoz it does not affect them too much and they don’t need therapy. We see the results.

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“I have put most of my “flock” on Automatic (that seems to cause a big uproar here) along with warnings about the snooping and possible bad patches, b/c I believe they need to be patched. And they are not capable of or are not willing to take responsibility.”

Why not put them on Automatic at least 1 week from now, preferably 3 weeks or more? Who is going to fix any potentially bad behaviour of the early installed patches?

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Alas, poor Windows! I knew him, Microsoft.

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from update to update,
To the last syllable of bandwidth;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to broken apps and data loss. Out, out, brief periods of reliability!
Life’s but a panicked Windows user, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hours upon the computer,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

With apologies to the Bard.

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You can’t repeatedly put them on Automatic (unless you take them off repeatedly).
I did it ONCE when the news about cumulative updates several months ago – for my peace of mind, their protection, and economy.

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I guess you experts out there will blast me for this, but I turned off updates months ago and saved myself a lot of grief. I still am running Vista Home Premium until I purchase a new Mac Book Pro after the first of the year. Until then, I am counting on Kaspersky to protect my Dell against any bad guys out there.

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+1

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