|
Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it. |
July updates are out and as usual Microsoft if dribbling out changes. At this time we are tracking an issue with SOME (not all) Office 2019 installs.
[See the full post at: July updates out – still tracking Office updating issues]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
KB5040442 for Windows 11 22H2/23H2
KB5040427 for Windows 10 22H2
.NET updates — https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/dotnet-and-dotnet-framework-july-2024-servicing-updates/
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 and Win8.1 on Jul9, 2024.
See #2686575 and #2686576 for information on Win7 and Win8.1 updates (Logged in Member access required).
Installed on “Canary” Win 11 Pro all seems to be running normally!
Hardened Windows user:
KB5040442 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 23H2 for x64-based Systems
KB5039895 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 23H2 for x64
KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.126
A second restart at 96%, other than that, no hiccups.
Now running Windows 11 Pro Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3880). I’ll wait for the push on my NAS and E5420.
It’s the bundled version that comes with Office 2016 suite. (It will be removed soon anyway.)
To be pedantic, the European Economic Area (EEA) and the European Union (EU) are not the same thing.
The EEA = EU + Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. These three ‘extra’ countries are independent but are part of the EU’s Single Market.
Relative to computing, it is the Single Market’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) that is forcing Microsoft (in this case) to unbundle various apps from its operating system and make them uninstallable, thus giving consumers some degree of choice.
I accidentally updated my penultimate Windows 10 Pro 22H2 test machine with the July updates first (forgot to pause updates after June updates test). Normally it is the fifth machine to get tested. The good news is that these July updates;
KB5040427 2024-07 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems
KB5041019 2024-07 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64
went smoothly and do not seem to have created any problems yet. I’ll update when I complete more testing.
Also note that Visual Studio 2022 has security updates.
Basic research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing - Werner Von Braun
After making a full image of all systems, I dove into the Patch Tuesday updates:
Updated x3 Win10 Pro 22H2, two in Parallels VMs on Intel based Macs, one on an old Dell Studio XPS 1340 laptop.
MSRT
2024-07 CU KB5040427 Build 19045.4651
2024-07 .NET Framework Rollup KB5041019 for v. 3.5/4.8/4.8.1
Defender updates
The older laptop took longer than usual.
One of the VMs failed on the first install on error 0x8007000d. Clearing the datastore did not help. DISM Restorehealth and sfc fixed a problem (system file corruption) and the second attempt went without further problems.
Updated x3 Win11 Pro 23H2, two in Parallels VMs on Apple Silicon Macs, one on a low end HP Desktop used mostly for testing.
MSRT (does not run on the Apple Silicon installations)
2024-07 CU KB5040442 Build 22631.3838
2024-07 .NET Framework KB5039895 for v. 3.5/4.8.1
All three installations experienced a second restart at 96-97%
Windows 10 Pro 22H2 July updates.
4 restarts.
Restart now request after the .NET update. Ignored and let the CU run.
First restart after the update. Updating to 30%
Second restart no change
Third restart 30% to 100%
Fourth restart to Cleaning Up and desktop.
All is well.
Since new 2019 Desktop buy I’ve had 1-2 minor CU issues … but today it took me 5 WuMgr Download attempts to get things going. Two were stuck on 2 of 3 Downloading and #3 – 4 were 3/3 Downloading — I allowed 20 min for each 2/3 and 3/3 attempt B4 I started over.. So IF it happens to you, I’d keep trying as #5 was a Winner.
W10 Pro 22H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / Macrium Pd vX / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU = 0
No problems this month post patching July 2024 patches:
(none of the installations have ChrEdge and MSRT is disabled)
Two devices with W10 Pro x64 and one with W10 Pro x86.
Everything normal, printer works with nothing in event viewer to cause concern. SFC and DISM images all good so decided to componentstore (winsxs) flush 🙂
Having same Issues again this month on certain systems with I assume (KB5040442)
Systems End up booting to a BLACK screen and can do nothing. Mouse moves, can remote in with Splashtop, but cannot get anything working even if try to login under different profile. Tried reseting video drivers etc.. Both Dell Optiplex SFF desktops and using Dell Display Port Monitors. One 7070 and one 7080, was working fine Both Windows 11 22H2. End up spending hours trying to fix, did an image restore and still had same problem after image restore to last backup that was working (ahhhhh), SFC/scannow, until finally we can get it going and block that patch. We had the same issue last month and blocked the June patch and we are back again with the same issue when the July patch installs. Works fine all month then the update runs and back to black screen. We have to play with start and stop till we can get into RE Environment or use USB Repair stick until it gives us the option to Uninstall Updates and sometimes that will not work as it says things are pending so we need to keep going back and forth until it lets us uninstall updates which takes hours. This is very frustrating and only thing we can do is build new machine as Win 11 23H2 with updates and setup stations form scratch. Would not be so bad except it seems to be multiple systems having these problems and there is not commonality between them. I miss the old days of simply start in safe mode and uninstall patch then block it.
And now documented:
|
|---|
|
|---|
|
|---|
|
|---|
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Hi Susan:
Windows Update successfully installed all updates offered for the July 2024 Patch Tuesday on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop, and I haven’t encountered any problems so far. This includes:
The update session was relatively fast and problem-free compared to the previous two Patch Tuesdays but I don’t know if that’s because I disabled my Malwarebytes Premium real-time protection before starting or if I monitored progress from Task Manager instead of Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update (which doesn’t refresh properly in real-time and appears to show my update session getting stuck, even though Task Manager shows updates are progressing in the background).
The only odd thing I noticed this month is that I required two restarts to finish the update session. It proceeded as follows:
My system has been running well since the updates were installed and there is no sign of Copilot in Windows or any of the other new features that are supposed to be rolling out to Win 10 (e.g., widgets on my lock screen, etc.) that I listed in my 14-Jun-2024 post # 2680565.
————
Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24050.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1270 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783
Do you think that the reason the Windows Update screens looked this way this time (with two restarts) was that you had Task Manager open?
Hi WCHS:
I doubt that opening Task Manager was the cause of my extra system restart this month (Alex5723 said they needed 4 restarts for their Win 10 machine in post # 2686915), but the only way I could be 100% certain would be to wait for another Patch Tuesday and test without opening Task Manager.
I’ve reported many times in the past that Windows Update always displays an early Restart Now pop-up as soon as my .NET Framework update as finished installing, forcing me to delay my system restart until my monthly CU update finished downloading and/or installing (see my 12-Apr-2024 image in post # 2659058 of Susan’s April updates pour in for one example).
This month’s behaviour was different. I tried all my usual tricks (e.g., closing and re-opening Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update, putting my computer in and out of sleep mode) and waited for ~ 15 minutes to see if my monthly CU KB5040427 would finish installing on its own, but my cooling fan stopped and there was essentially no CPU or disk activity in Task Manager so I decided to go ahead with the first system restart as prompted to complete my .NET Framework installation. This is pure speculation on my part, but perhaps Microsoft tweaked something this month and added an extra restart to ensure an orderly installation of both the .NET Framework and monthly CU KB5040427 updates.
One thing I am fairly certain of is that what I see displayed at Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update on Patch Tuesdays (which often shows my update session pausing for long periods of time or getting stuck) doesn’t really reflect what’s going on the background. There was a discussion about this glitch back in April 2023 starting with PKCano’s 23-Apr-20233 post # 2552069 in Susan Bradly’s The patching showers of April. I can tell by the sound of my cooling fan and the high CPU usage by Service Host: Windows Update in Task Manager that my Windows Updates are still in progress even if Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update suggests that my update session is stuck.
————
Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24050.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783
I’m sorry Susan, I couldn’t get the screenshot; the panel disappears when I activate the screenshot program….The CoPilot logo is still in the Search panel but does not work without Edge.
Hi Mark:
Are you referring to the “Recommended” ad for using web-based Copilot from Edge? From my Win 10 start menu when I click inside the search box on my taskbar:
If your “Try it now” Copilot ad looks different on your Win 11 start menu but disappears when you open your screenshot program (snipping tool) then capture a screenshot of your entire screen with your PrtScn key (or click on a window and choose Alt + PrtScn to capture the active window) and paste it into an image editor like MS Paint for editing.
————
Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24050.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783
I’ve been using PC’s since 1979 and, like @lmacri, I’ve never seen a Windows PC keyboard without a Print Screen key since DOS was the OS of choice.
If yours doesn’t, that makes it extremely rare and we’d just like to know some details about it.
Is your Windows PC a laptop or desktop?
If laptop, what make/model?
If desktop, what make/model keyboard?
I have a laptop at the office that doesn’t have a printscreen key.
“For ThinkPad X1 Carbon the 2nd Generation, because it supports the Adaptive Keyboard, there is no PrtSc key. Users have to press Fn+T to make a screenshot. Then open Paint > Paste.”
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I don’t have a Prtscn key, at least on the Windows computer. Thanks anyway.
Open Run box, enter osk, and press the Enter key.
The On Screen Keyboard has a PrtScn key.
HTH, Dana:))
Donations from Plus members keep this site going. You can identify the people who support AskWoody by the Plus badge on their avatars.
AskWoody Plus members not only get access to all of the contents of this site -- including Susan Bradley's frequently updated Patch Watch listing -- they also receive weekly AskWoody Plus Newsletters (formerly Windows Secrets Newsletter) and AskWoody Plus Alerts, emails when there are important breaking developments.
