Intermittent Double-click Fails

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I’ve been using a mouse for 26 years now (Genius – Logitech – Targus – Microsoft – now Logitech again).
My latest computer is a Clevo portable, bought in February 2015. It runs Windows 10 Home x64, now version 1903 with the latest update, spurred on with a wireless Logitech M705 mouse.

The double-click is my standard MO to run a program, usually by a shortcut. Sometimes the machine does not respond and I have to repeat the double-click, a rare time even twice. It isn’t caused by the mouse because it happens with all 3 Logitech M705 mice I’ve used with this machine. Also, a single-click never fails.

OTOH, the reluctant double-click-response seems, I think, to disappear if I significantly slow down my double-click speed.

Is the computer sometimes too busy to respond? Is the Logitech USB Unifying Receiver too slow? Should I try a Bluetooth mouse? Should I try a wired mouse? Is my double-click too extremely fast? Or must I accept and just live with it?

Please let me know if this sounds familiar.
And if you know a solution, allow me to insist on a reply, I beg you!

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You have probably done the obvious, so this may be a silly answer:
In the Control Panel\Mouse there is a setting for double-click.
You can make it match your finger speed. If you click fast, move the slider faster till it matches.

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E Pericoloso Sporgersi wrote:

It isn’t caused by the mouse because it happens with all 3 Logitech M705 mice

Some mice do have an “accidental double-click prevention” feature built into the hardware for people with trembling fingers. Some people really need it, too.

So I’d try with a different mouse model. Probably from the “gaming” category, those tend to advertise twitch-speed features…

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Microswitches (like the kind used in mouse buttons) can often have contact bounce, causing an extra button-up and button-down event, even though the mouse button itself was just pressed once.  The bounce detection is meant to look for multiple clicks too fast to have been caused by a human, and to disregard them.

Windows had an option for “detect accidental double clicks” somewhere… I thought it was in the folder options (near the “hide extensions” option), but I don’t see it there now in my Win 7 VM.  Maybe the option was in there in XP and I haven’t noticed it was gone (since I have not had any problems with it).

At any rate, I searched for the string “detect accidental double clicks,” and the registry entry that corresponds with that missing option is shown below, according to this site of unknown trustworthiness.  It looks like it was another site that had this info, but is now hosted on someone else’s page to preserve it.  I was not able to find any other references to that key in English, but there were some more in other languages.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

The entry is named UseDoubleClickTimer, and is type String Value.  Setting the key to 1 is supposed to enable the accidental double click detection, while 0 would disable it.  I don’t know what the default is, so setting it to 0 may help if the value is not present.

Use caution with unknown sites and registry edits, and only proceed if you would be able to recover the system if something goes wrong.  It seems harmless enough (it’s unlikely that the value “UseDoubleClickTimer” will do something other than what it says on the tin), but I do wish there was a more well-known site that had some reference to this key.

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Ascaris wrote:

At any rate, I searched for the string “detect accidental double clicks,” and the registry entry that corresponds with that missing option is shown below, according to this site of unknown trustworthiness.  It looks like it was another site that had this info, but is now hosted on someone else’s page to preserve it.  I was not able to find any other references to that key in English, but there were some more in other languages.

That’s about preventing an intended single click being unintentionally treated as a double click:

Detecting accidental mouse double-clicks

Which is the opposite of the problem described in this thread; an intended double click being unintentionally treated as two single clicks.

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Right, and if it’s enabled, he can disable it.

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That would be the opposite of the desired effect:

Disabling the key would force Explorer to treat double-click as a single-click

(if it had any effect at all, as it’s a Windows 98 tweak)

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PKCano wrote:

You have probably done the obvious, so this may be a silly answer:
In the Control Panel\Mouse there is a setting for double-click.
You can make it match your finger speed. If you click fast, move the slider faster till it matches.

That’s one of the first things I do when installing windows or a new mouse.

Still, I’ll experiment changing that setting and report back to you in a week or so.

Meanwhile, thanks for the suggestion.

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E Pericoloso Sporgersi wrote:

It isn’t caused by the mouse because it happens with all 3 Logitech M705 mice

Some mice do have an “accidental double-click prevention” feature built into the hardware for people with trembling fingers. Some people really need it, too.

So I’d try with a different mouse model. Probably from the “gaming” category, those tend to advertise twitch-speed features…

I doubt it has that feature because it’s such a small mouse that, I thought, it is meant for use with a laptop or portable. (I’ve once had an even smaller one IIRC.)

I may be wrong of course. I’ll forward my OP to Logitech to ask them.

Thanks for your reply, though.

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Hello E Pericoloso Sporgersi, I ran into that back in 2002 when Windows XP first came out. Some gamers and my relatives had troubles with double clicking.

It seems on occasion the area of response of what is considered a double click and not an accidental movement may be changed.

It is called “DoubleClickHeight” and “DoubleClickWidth”, and can be changed wit a registry key.

Go into regedit to the key in question and see what the current value is. Try doubling or tripling. It is the amount of pixels allowed for “shakey movement” of the mouse and still be considered a double click. This solved everyone’s problem I knew, back then and used it myself for good measure.

See: Tweak Library – Change the mouse double-click response area.
http://win.tweaklibrary.com/Hardware/Input_Output-Device/20/Change-the-mouse-double-click-response-area/10003/

Hope this helps.

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anonymous wrote:

Hello E Pericoloso Sporgersi, I ran into that back in 2002 when Windows XP first came out. Some gamers and my relatives had troubles with double clicking.

It seems on occasion the area of response of what is considered a double click and not an accidental movement may be changed.

It is called “DoubleClickHeight” and “DoubleClickWidth”, and can be changed wit a registry key.

Go into regedit to the key in question and see what the current value is. Try doubling or tripling. It is the amount of pixels allowed for “shakey movement” of the mouse and still be considered a double click. This solved everyone’s problem I knew, back then and used it myself for good measure.

See: Tweak Library – Change the mouse double-click response area.
http://win.tweaklibrary.com/Hardware/Input_Output-Device/20/Change-the-mouse-double-click-response-area/10003/

Hope this helps.

This is certainly worth checking out. Thank you.

I’ll be back! (like Arnie said)

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I asked Logitech about it and got a reply today. Their support gave me a boilerplate of troubleshooting instructions, useless because totally irrelevant.

Sometimes, when dragging an object to a folder to insert a shortcut, the dragged icon falters for a few seconds halfway and then proceeds to the target. I’m now convinced that faltering drag and the stumbling mouse are an idiosyncrasy of Windows 10 when it’s really very busy. Or that at 4 years my computer is really old. Or that I am …

Oh well, I shall just train myself to double-click a bit slower, though that will actually occur automatically with my advancing age, LOL.

Anyway guys, thank you for all the suggestions that didn’t really help, but were nevertheless hugely appreciated.

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It seems – I think – I fervently hope that I’ve found the solution.

Instead of surfing the net I was surfing through my system settings once again. By chance I happened to notice that I tried a little experiment quite a while ago.

As my little pc has 32 GB RAM, I dared to reduce the “Paging file size” for all drives to “No paging file“, and just see what happened. And then I completely forgot about it.

Now, very curious, I set Windows 10/64 v1909 to automatically manage the paging file size.

Well, the mouse driver again responds eagerly, without any hesitation.

No more double-click failures. Double-Yay! 

Who would have thought of blaming an absent paging file.

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