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    A live blog of what’s coming out today…  
    [See the full post at: Initial impressions of Patch Tuesday, March 2020]

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    • #2189166

      AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 (ESU) and Win8.1 on Mar. 10, 2020.

      There are Security-only and IE11 Cumulative Updates for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.
      There is also a new Servicing Stack KB4550735. Download 32-bit or 64-bit for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.

      There is a servicing Stack for Win8.1. KB4540725. Download 32-bit or 64-bit

      NOTE: According to @abbodi86 March Security Only Update for Win 7 and 8.1 contain the DiagTrack service component (AKA Unified Telemetry Client)

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      • #2189560

        Is KB4540725 Servicing Stack update Only for Win8 & not Win8.1? If it’s not, is it included in Group A (probably)?!

        Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
        Wild Bill Rides Again...

        • #2189565

          Sorry, I was in a hurry. The SSU is for Win8.1. We are not tracking Win8.
          It is listed above to notify patchers that is is available and b/c Win8.1 Group B may do a manual download with the other updates. Convenience.

          The SSU is for both Group A and Group B for Win8.1.
          The SSU for Win7 is only for those with an ESU subscription.

    • #2189189

      “No indication that Win10 version 2004 will ship today.”

      read this ZDNet article about v2004 from Ed Bott, woody

      ending his article with this statement:

      “Based on Microsoft’s previous release schedules, version 2004 should be officially available to the public beginning sometime in May, with a staged rollout via Windows Update over the next six months.”

      And there are new Win7 security updates like KB4540688 & KB4541500 that require more recent win7 servicing stack updates such as KB4537829 & the newly released KB4550735

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      • #2189222

        Are there going to be any new login requirements for 2004 relative to 1909/earlier is what I’m more interested in finding out.

    • #2189193

      No known fix for KB 4532693 nor for KB 4524244 or KB 4535996.

      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4540673/windows-10-update-kb4540673

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      • #2189269

        Decoder ring:

        KB 4532693 = Win10 1903 and 1909 February cumulative update

        KB 4535996 = Win10 1903 and 1909 “optional, non-security C/D Week” patch for February

        KB 4524244 = the really bad UEFI patch that Microsoft yanked. We only have manual uninstall instructions.

         

         

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    • #2189185

      Kb4540673 installed and so far seen no problems like usual on 1903

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    • #2189203

      It seems to be fine on my 1909 tower. Asus motherboard.

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    • #2189207

      Seeker/cannon fodder report:

      KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020
      KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems

      Now listed as Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.719).

      Everything is working as usual.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

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      • #2189271

        Seeker/cannon fodder report:

        KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020
        KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems

        Now listed as Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.719).

        Everything is working as usual.

        Those buggy kb…693 and kb…996 are not included.

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        • #2189316

          Those buggy kb…693 and kb…996 are not included.

          That’s old news, covered in much earlier posts back in February.

          Updates

          And, everything is still running just fine.

           

          Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
          We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
          We were all once "Average Users".

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      • #2189903

        KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems

        My DIY NAS got the push from Microsoft near midnight last night.  Updated the B side of my dual boot desktop this morning, the A side of my Dell Latitude E5420 this afternoon.

        No hiccups, nothing to report.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

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    • #2189208

      KB4541509 – Security Monthly for 2012R2 is listed twice in WSUS and if checking online for updates.  Not sure if it will try to install twice, will be waiting.

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    • #2189221

      I think folks should take a moment to enjoy the irony of Microsoft discovering and fixing an “information disclosure vulnerability” in the Windows 10 telemetry system.

       

    • #2189223

      Over the weekend, Windows update offered my Dell XPS, bought in Sept 2019, a total of 33 patches for various drivers and firmware for the components of my system. Dell Support offered none of them, which is not really surprising since those that sported a date were all very old going back to 2017, and often predated the shipping of my PC. Needless to say, I did not install any of them.

      Today, when Windows Update checked, they were all gone.

      Now, if I had been a good boy and let Microsoft install them all immediately over my more current drivers, as Microsoft’s default settings would have had me do, wouldn’t I have been a happy bunny!

      Chris
      Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

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      • #2189278

        Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

        What exactly is a group A in Windows 10 ? Are you reverse engineering the CU ?

        • #2189289

          Windows 10 everyone is Group A by default.

          On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
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      • #2190661

        I bounced this over to Dell, so that they were aware of the problem. They replied:

        “Any updates that comes through Microsoft can be trusted and installed.”

        Best joke of the day!

        Chris
        Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

    • #2189220

      It is no longer possible to uninstall KB4535996.

      It disappeared from the list of updates to uninstall.

      • #2189275

        If you have installed the March Cumulative Update, KB4535996, the Feb non-security CU will no longer show up because it has been superseded by the March Updates. It is contained in the March update.

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    • #2189225

      Win 8.1 user. This month’s security rollup was offered twice.

      I hid both.

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      • #2189263

        oh dear…Windows 8.1
        doubletrouble
        /facepalm

        If debian is good enough for NASA...
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        • #2189288

          Same… plus the 2020-02 Preview of Quality Rollup for .NET Framework (KB4538158) is still hanging around on the Optional tab. Never touch that anyway, so wait a few days & see what changes…

          Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
          Wild Bill Rides Again...

        • #2189290

          Two of the same patch is a good reason to delay updating.

          On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
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      • #2189457

        That’s how much special is Windows 8.1 😀

        apparently the metadata guys missied up a little bit

        it’s been fixed 2 or 3 hours later though

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    • #2189248

      Heads up to those running 1903 with 120 day feature update deferrals…

      You should be offered 1909 tomorrow 3/11, as it was released 11/12/19, 120 days ago as of tomorrow 3/11.

      If you’re ok with this, do nothing.
      If you want to keep 1903 for a bit longer, be sure to change your deferrals to a value greater than 120 days.

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    • #2189254

      Windows 1909 Test Beta
      March 10, 2020

      Installed both updates from Windows Update and then rebooted without error.

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    • #2189294

      Windows 10 everyone is Group A by default.

      Group A implies that there is a group B, when there is none.

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    • #2189291

      A question regarding the servicing stack updates:

      MS says these updates are offered thru WU automatically, yet they never appear as listed in the available updates or in the update history. Are they bundled in with the security or cumulative updates? Is that why most of the security updates I get through WU get installed twice, meaning it goes through the “installing updates” process twice?

      I have not installed the March updates yet, waiting for the go ahead from Woody. Just curious about the servicing stacks and how they are handled.

      • #2189296

        The SSUs are bundled with the CUs, but do not show up by their KB numbers in Windows Update. Nor will you see them in the Update History. I believe they may present themselves with the CU’s KB number, which is why you may see the CU seem to install twice.

        If you look in the “Installed Updates” however, you will find the CU only installed once, and the SSU installed with a separate KB number.

        Who knows? It’s Microsoft! 🙂

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        • #2190072

          To further add to the confusion, ESU updates won’t show up in Windows Update unless the previous month’s SSU is installed.  I confirmed this on a W7 pro install with the Feb 2020 cumulative update installed.  No March updates showed up until I installed the Feb SSU manually.  SSUs don’t show up in windows update unless *all* available important updates are installed, which for me means they will never show up.

          I think this means that if you install every month’s CU, you’re ok.  But if you skip a month, you have to install the previous [or current?] month’s SSU manually.

          • #2190073

            You can HIDE the updates you don’t want to install. Then, after you install the ones you WANT to install, the SSU will appear in Windows Update b/c you have emptied the queue.

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      • #2189340

        MS says these updates are offered thru WU automatically, yet they never appear as listed in the available updates or in the update history. Are they bundled in with the security or cumulative updates?

        They show up in Control Panel>Programs & Features>View Installed Updates.

        Here is the SSU for Feb.

        SSU

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #2189350

          They are bundled with whichever CU requires them.

          • #2189354

            They are bundled with whichever CU requires them.

            Yup, that’s true. I was just pointing out where the OP could see them listed.

            Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
            All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #2189304

      Win 7 sp1 x64 ESU, installed 3, then SSU on second pass.

      Seems to be OK, so far…

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    • #2189400

      There’s a new wormable, critical smbv3 server vulnerability out, but not included in today’s patches.

      Kind of sad that we’re getting so many minor patches but not the important stuff. Can’t imagine why anyone would want to use Windows Server for anything but active directory.

      Yet there are still some Windows servers out there with smb exposed to the internet (smbv3 is designed to be safe without a vpn). Scary.

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    • #2189415

      …and through all the fuss, the tears, the howls, the fears, the broken nerves, the upchucked hors d’oevures, we still hear this screech from all parts of the web, including a lot of genuinely otherwise useful security sites,

      “Users should install these security updates as soon as possible to protect Windows from known security risks.”

      <SFX: Head ramming wall repeatedly>

      Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
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      • #2189536

        Indeed. See my earlier post about the ancient and possibly damaging driver updates offered to me.

        Chris
        Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

    • #2189429

      How did today’s March Patch Tuesday go for those with ESU licenses?

      • #2189486

        Would not know-“Group “Wait for the all-clear” , like it says above. -NTDBD

    • #2189453

      As of 9:42 PM CDT, only one Win8.1 Security Monthly Quality Rollup (KB4545109) is present now. Plus, the 2020-02 Preview of Quality Rollup for .NET Framework (KB4538158) is still hanging around on the Optional tab.

      Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
      Wild Bill Rides Again...

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    • #2189621

      No bad news for 10(1809) home/other users I see currently but I’ll just have to wait a few more days to feel somewhat safe letting my 10(1809) home laptop online. But that sloppy patch delivery for March 2020 from MS does not inspire much confidence with those double KB entries and other things getting removed.

      I’m also looking towards any past content that instructs on how to avoid any Windows 10 forced driver updates and GPU/other hardware not doing so well afterwards as a result of 10/driver updates.

      • #2190014

        I’m also looking towards any past content that instructs on how to avoid any Windows 10 forced driver updates and GPU/other hardware not doing so well afterwards as a result of 10/driver updates.

        Configure Device Installation Settings

    • #2189635

      Winaero tweaker and O&O Shutup10 both include a button to choose the disable drivers option.  If you were on 10 pro, group policy would give you the option to see updates including drivers but not have them forced https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000016-guide-for-windows-update-settings-for-windows-10/  Also for 10 pro, group policy can block driver updates while doing windows updates.

      If on 10 home, the registry can be edited https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10  On windows 10 home, if you are using pause anyway to delay updates, during the pause try using wushowhide to hide unwanted driver updates.  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026726/windows-10-hide-updates-or-driver-updates

      I have installed March 2020 cumulative quality update kb4540673 on Windows 10 1909 bringing version to 18363.719 on an about 10 year old laptop with no noticed problems.

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    • #2189664

      Hm, after installing this update all sync data and back-ups of my i-devices are lost. They’re all detected as new without any back-up history. However, somehow in the user profile-folder -where iTunes stores this data – folders are there with previous backups. So not 100% sure if this is an iTunes-problem or a Windows update problem. However before all worked fine. Looks like somehow iTunes can’t read stuff from its user folders anymore 🙁 Also when I make new backups, the files are stored but not detected in iTunes.

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      • #2189666

        Hm, after installing this update all sync data and back-ups of my i-devices are lost.

        Which update did you apply?

        What is your operating system?

        Were there any other errors?

        Were there any error messages?

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    • #2189895

      so far no new patch for v2004 build 19041.x as of Wed. 3/11 5:30pm pacific daylight time
      still stuck with build 19041.113 [KB4540409] that was released on Thu 2/27

      will check tomorrow Thu 3/12 or Fri 3/13

    • #2190026

      Something very strange just happened:
      On my Win10 1809 Pro, Windows Update is not only ‘offering’ the usual KB 2267602 Defender update, but also KB 4537759 update for Adobe Flash Player.
      But I have no Flash Player or any other Adobe product installed, nor any flash browser plugin.

      What’s up with that!?

      (Updates are handled/deferred by gpedit.msc)

      LMDE is my daily driver now. Old friend Win10 keeps spinning in the background
      • #2190027

        Flash Player is built-in to IE11 and Edge in Win10, not a separate product like it was in Win7. You need this update

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    • #2190079

      Microsoft Forum now provides an update report pinned to the top of Windows topics. The latest is here:

      https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/cumulative-updates-march-10th-2020/3ae91128-4211-44c5-8e8d-325fd0c3d499

      These update reports contain many “it-didn’t-work” replies, but there is also useful information should you wish wider viewpoints.

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      • #2190132

        Thanks, geekdom, bookmarked. More howls of the wounded from the battlefield of Win 10…and everyone (well, few here) wonders why the market share of Win 7 is still so high…<sigh>

        Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
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    • #2190418

      A live blog of what’s coming out today…  
      [See the full post at: Initial impressions of Patch Tuesday, March 2020]

      Good morning. We have Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit on our HTPC and also on the laptop that I’m typing on right now. Windows Update is set to “Check for updates but let me choose ….”.  Control Panel / Windows Update is currently showing 1 important update, namely Windows Update KB4541509.

      Should I install it now or wait for updated wisdom to appear here?

    • #2190422

      v2004 finally got a new update Fri 3/13 after 10am pacific local time – KB4541738 build 19041.153 in the Slow ring

      https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/03/13/releasing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-19041-153-to-the-slow-ring/

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      • #2190431

        I wonder if it includes the SMBv3 patch?

        The announcement doesn’t mention it….

        There’s also a new Servicing Stack Update…

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        • #2190459

          Installed both; no apparent issues after restart.

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    • #2190516

      OK, thanks. Realized after posting earlier that the update is only 3 days old. Sometimes it takes a while for problem reports to surface so maybe i’ll give it a few days before installing. We did the monthly anti-malware update and the service stack update with no problem …. yet!

    • #2190571

      Am being offered:

      2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688)

      Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)

      ******************

      (Didn’t see 4540688 on Susan’s latest excel spreadsheet…too soon or my old eyes are really giving out.)

      As far as SSU’s go, I don’t seem to have either KB4537829 or KB4537829.

      Last month, the SSU’s were offered after the February Rollup was installed.

      1. Does the order matter?
      2. Has MSFT gone SSU mad? (I’m sure I have!)

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    • #2190574

      Am being offered:

      2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688)

      Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)

      ******************

      (Didn’t see 4540688 on Susan’s latest excel spreadsheet…too soon or my old eyes are really giving out.)

      As far as SSU’s go, I don’t seem to have either KB4537829 or KB4537829.

      Last month, the SSU’s were offered after the February Rollup was installed.

      1. Does the order matter?
      2. Has MSFT gone SSU mad? (I’m sure I have!)

      You need the previous month’s Win7 SSU installed to get the current month’s patches offered.  If you don’t see the current month offered [and you have ESU], then download and install the previous [or current?] momth’s SSU.  So yes, every month Win has a SSU now.

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    • #2190603

      You need the previous month’s Win7 SSU installed to get the current month’s patches offered.

      Yup, I am being offered the March Rollup and MSRT, but not the new SSU’s. I guess this means it’s just like last month, when, after installing the Feb Rollup and MSRT, I checked and was offered new SSU’s.

      Oh, man, a new SSU (‘s) each time? BLIMEY! Someone’s lost their marbles up there, or they’re awfully paranoid about ESU workarounds/piracy.

      Thanks for the tip!

      Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
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      "The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty

    • #2190700

      I think that if you let WU install all important current month updates, the SSU gets done in there somewhere to prep for next month’s updates.  In other words, if you install everything offered under “important”, and you DON’T skip a month, then it “should” just work.  I suspect that if you hold off on a month’s updates until the next month’s are released, you may need to manually install last months SSU to see the current month’s updates.

      • #2190731

        Good point, and we did install both the service stack update and the monthly anti-malware thing, so we’re at least up to date on those. One thing I don’t get is why an SSU is needed with any frequency. They used to only do that rarely (or maybe now-and-then). I suppose they just change soooo much in an update these days that it won’t work unless they prepare your system specially.

      • #2190789

        I just updated a Win7 machine that hadn’t gotten any updates since January.  Manually installing the March SSU before checking worked fine, so previous *or* current month’s SSU will work.  Why monthly SSUs?  Only Microsoft and abbodi86 know for sure…

        • #2190797

          All Windows versions got SSUs this month, so it’s not related to ESU this time 😀

          but it would be helpful if they summerize what they “enhance” in SSUs each time

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    • #2207865

      Anyone here with windows 8.1 install March updates yet? If so, how has it been?

      I’m afraid to trust the updates this month after all the windows 10 issues I’ve been seeing, and considering Microsoft employees been working from home meaning chance for lots of bugs and slow fixes.

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