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Initial impressions of Patch Tuesday, March 2020
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PKCano
ManagerMarch 10, 2020 at 12:17 pm #2189166AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 (ESU) and Win8.1 on Mar. 10, 2020.
There are Security-only and IE11 Cumulative Updates for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.
There is also a new Servicing Stack KB4550735. Download 32-bit or 64-bit for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.There is a servicing Stack for Win8.1. KB4540725. Download 32-bit or 64-bit
NOTE: According to @abbodi86 March Security Only Update for Win 7 and 8.1 contain the DiagTrack service component (AKA Unified Telemetry Client)
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WildBill
AskWoody PlusMarch 11, 2020 at 5:56 am #2189560Is KB4540725 Servicing Stack update Only for Win8 & not Win8.1? If it’s not, is it included in Group A (probably)?!
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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PKCano
ManagerMarch 11, 2020 at 6:16 am #2189565Sorry, I was in a hurry. The SSU is for Win8.1. We are not tracking Win8.
It is listed above to notify patchers that is is available and b/c Win8.1 Group B may do a manual download with the other updates. Convenience.The SSU is for both Group A and Group B for Win8.1.
The SSU for Win7 is only for those with an ESU subscription.
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 12:42 pm #2189189“No indication that Win10 version 2004 will ship today.”
read this ZDNet article about v2004 from Ed Bott, woody
ending his article with this statement:
“Based on Microsoft’s previous release schedules, version 2004 should be officially available to the public beginning sometime in May, with a staged rollout via Windows Update over the next six months.”
And there are new Win7 security updates like KB4540688 & KB4541500 that require more recent win7 servicing stack updates such as KB4537829 & the newly released KB4550735
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 12:46 pm #2189193No known fix for KB 4532693 nor for KB 4524244 or KB 4535996.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4540673/windows-10-update-kb4540673
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woody
ManagerMarch 10, 2020 at 2:16 pm #2189269Decoder ring:
KB 4532693 = Win10 1903 and 1909 February cumulative update
KB 4535996 = Win10 1903 and 1909 “optional, non-security C/D Week” patch for February
KB 4524244 = the really bad UEFI patch that Microsoft yanked. We only have manual uninstall instructions.
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AskWoody MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 1:02 pm #2189207Seeker/cannon fodder report:
KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020
KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based SystemsNow listed as Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.719).
Everything is working as usual.
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".4 users thanked author for this post.
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Alex5723
AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 2:18 pm #2189271Seeker/cannon fodder report:
KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020
KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based SystemsNow listed as Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.719).
Everything is working as usual.
Those buggy kb…693 and kb…996 are not included.
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bbearren
AskWoody MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 4:46 pm #2189316Those buggy kb…693 and kb…996 are not included.
That’s old news, covered in much earlier posts back in February.
And, everything is still running just fine.
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".1 user thanked author for this post.
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bbearren
AskWoody MVPMarch 11, 2020 at 7:41 pm #2189903KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 KB4540673 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems
My DIY NAS got the push from Microsoft near midnight last night. Updated the B side of my dual boot desktop this morning, the A side of my Dell Latitude E5420 this afternoon.
No hiccups, nothing to report.
Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.We were all once "Average Users".1 user thanked author for this post.
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ManagerMarch 11, 2020 at 8:47 am #2189616That appears to be the genesis of the three disappearing Update Catalog entries.
warrenrumak
AskWoody LoungerMarch 10, 2020 at 1:13 pm #2189221I think folks should take a moment to enjoy the irony of Microsoft discovering and fixing an “information disclosure vulnerability” in the Windows 10 telemetry system.
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Chris B
AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 1:16 pm #2189223Over the weekend, Windows update offered my Dell XPS, bought in Sept 2019, a total of 33 patches for various drivers and firmware for the components of my system. Dell Support offered none of them, which is not really surprising since those that sported a date were all very old going back to 2017, and often predated the shipping of my PC. Needless to say, I did not install any of them.
Today, when Windows Update checked, they were all gone.
Now, if I had been a good boy and let Microsoft install them all immediately over my more current drivers, as Microsoft’s default settings would have had me do, wouldn’t I have been a happy bunny!
Chris
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 2:36 pm #2189278Win 10 Pro x64 Group A
What exactly is a group A in Windows 10 ? Are you reverse engineering the CU ?
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 3:00 pm #2189289Windows 10 everyone is Group A by default.
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 2:58 pm #2189288Same… plus the 2020-02 Preview of Quality Rollup for .NET Framework (KB4538158) is still hanging around on the Optional tab. Never touch that anyway, so wait a few days & see what changes…
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 3:05 pm #2189290Two of the same patch is a good reason to delay updating.
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 10, 2020 at 1:56 pm #2189248Heads up to those running 1903 with 120 day feature update deferrals…
You should be offered 1909 tomorrow 3/11, as it was released 11/12/19, 120 days ago as of tomorrow 3/11.
If you’re ok with this, do nothing.
If you want to keep 1903 for a bit longer, be sure to change your deferrals to a value greater than 120 days.geekdom
AskWoody_MVPMarch 10, 2020 at 2:04 pm #2189254Windows 1909 Test Beta
March 10, 2020- kb4540673
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4540673/windows-10-update-kb4540673 - kb890830
Installed both updates from Windows Update and then rebooted without error.
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GuestMarch 10, 2020 at 3:28 pm #2189291A question regarding the servicing stack updates:
MS says these updates are offered thru WU automatically, yet they never appear as listed in the available updates or in the update history. Are they bundled in with the security or cumulative updates? Is that why most of the security updates I get through WU get installed twice, meaning it goes through the “installing updates” process twice?
I have not installed the March updates yet, waiting for the go ahead from Woody. Just curious about the servicing stacks and how they are handled.
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PKCano
ManagerMarch 10, 2020 at 3:32 pm #2189296The SSUs are bundled with the CUs, but do not show up by their KB numbers in Windows Update. Nor will you see them in the Update History. I believe they may present themselves with the CU’s KB number, which is why you may see the CU seem to install twice.
If you look in the “Installed Updates” however, you will find the CU only installed once, and the SSU installed with a separate KB number.
Who knows? It’s Microsoft! 🙂
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georgea
AskWoody LoungerMarch 12, 2020 at 9:57 am #2190072To further add to the confusion, ESU updates won’t show up in Windows Update unless the previous month’s SSU is installed. I confirmed this on a W7 pro install with the Feb 2020 cumulative update installed. No March updates showed up until I installed the Feb SSU manually. SSUs don’t show up in windows update unless *all* available important updates are installed, which for me means they will never show up.
I think this means that if you install every month’s CU, you’re ok. But if you skip a month, you have to install the previous [or current?] month’s SSU manually.
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 5:47 pm #2189340MS says these updates are offered thru WU automatically, yet they never appear as listed in the available updates or in the update history. Are they bundled in with the security or cumulative updates?
They show up in Control Panel>Programs & Features>View Installed Updates.
Here is the SSU for Feb.
Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 6:08 pm #2189354They are bundled with whichever CU requires them.
Yup, that’s true. I was just pointing out where the OP could see them listed.
Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
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GuestMarch 10, 2020 at 7:39 pm #2189400There’s a new wormable, critical smbv3 server vulnerability out, but not included in today’s patches.
Kind of sad that we’re getting so many minor patches but not the important stuff. Can’t imagine why anyone would want to use Windows Server for anything but active directory.
Yet there are still some Windows servers out there with smb exposed to the internet (smbv3 is designed to be safe without a vpn). Scary.
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joep517
AskWoody MVPMarch 11, 2020 at 7:42 am #2189591There is no way to tell how long Microsoft has known of this. See Details about new SMB wormable bug leak in Microsoft Patch Tuesday snafu for more information.
It appears that a patch was thought to be in March’s patch Tuesday release but was not included for some reason. I doubt Microsoft wants to release a patch that does not address the issue or has known problems. They get beat up enough for releasing patches that have unknown issues.
--Joe
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 11, 2020 at 8:15 am #2189607That ZDNet article now has a note at the bottom:
Updated to add that instructions on how to safely/correctly disable SMBv3 compression have been published in a Microsoft security advisory that went live after this article’s publication.
ADV200005 | Microsoft Guidance for Disabling SMBv3 Compression provides a workaround for servers.
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woody
ManagerMarch 11, 2020 at 8:26 am #2189613That’s how I read the tea leaves.
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 8:18 pm #2189415…and through all the fuss, the tears, the howls, the fears, the broken nerves, the upchucked hors d’oevures, we still hear this screech from all parts of the web, including a lot of genuinely otherwise useful security sites,
“Users should install these security updates as soon as possible to protect Windows from known security risks.”
<SFX: Head ramming wall repeatedly>
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AskWoody PlusMarch 10, 2020 at 9:42 pm #2189453As of 9:42 PM CDT, only one Win8.1 Security Monthly Quality Rollup (KB4545109) is present now. Plus, the 2020-02 Preview of Quality Rollup for .NET Framework (KB4538158) is still hanging around on the Optional tab.
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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GuestMarch 11, 2020 at 9:24 am #2189621No bad news for 10(1809) home/other users I see currently but I’ll just have to wait a few more days to feel somewhat safe letting my 10(1809) home laptop online. But that sloppy patch delivery for March 2020 from MS does not inspire much confidence with those double KB entries and other things getting removed.
I’m also looking towards any past content that instructs on how to avoid any Windows 10 forced driver updates and GPU/other hardware not doing so well afterwards as a result of 10/driver updates.
anonymous
GuestMarch 11, 2020 at 9:55 am #2189635Winaero tweaker and O&O Shutup10 both include a button to choose the disable drivers option. If you were on 10 pro, group policy would give you the option to see updates including drivers but not have them forced https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000016-guide-for-windows-update-settings-for-windows-10/ Also for 10 pro, group policy can block driver updates while doing windows updates.
If on 10 home, the registry can be edited https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10 On windows 10 home, if you are using pause anyway to delay updates, during the pause try using wushowhide to hide unwanted driver updates. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026726/windows-10-hide-updates-or-driver-updates
I have installed March 2020 cumulative quality update kb4540673 on Windows 10 1909 bringing version to 18363.719 on an about 10 year old laptop with no noticed problems.
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 11, 2020 at 10:30 am #2189664Hm, after installing this update all sync data and back-ups of my i-devices are lost. They’re all detected as new without any back-up history. However, somehow in the user profile-folder -where iTunes stores this data – folders are there with previous backups. So not 100% sure if this is an iTunes-problem or a Windows update problem. However before all worked fine. Looks like somehow iTunes can’t read stuff from its user folders anymore 🙁 Also when I make new backups, the files are stored but not detected in iTunes.
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 11, 2020 at 10:35 am #2189666Hm, after installing this update all sync data and back-ups of my i-devices are lost.
Which update did you apply?
What is your operating system?
Were there any other errors?
Were there any error messages?
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AskWoody PlusMarch 12, 2020 at 6:52 am #2190026Something very strange just happened:
On my Win10 1809 Pro, Windows Update is not only ‘offering’ the usual KB 2267602 Defender update, but also KB 4537759 update for Adobe Flash Player.
But I have no Flash Player or any other Adobe product installed, nor any flash browser plugin.What’s up with that!?
(Updates are handled/deferred by gpedit.msc)
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 12, 2020 at 10:24 am #2190079Microsoft Forum now provides an update report pinned to the top of Windows topics. The latest is here:
These update reports contain many “it-didn’t-work” replies, but there is also useful information should you wish wider viewpoints.
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AskWoody PlusMarch 12, 2020 at 12:04 pm #2190132Thanks, geekdom, bookmarked. More howls of the wounded from the battlefield of Win 10…and everyone (well, few here) wonders why the market share of Win 7 is still so high…<sigh>
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 13, 2020 at 12:12 pm #2190418A live blog of what’s coming out today…
[See the full post at: Initial impressions of Patch Tuesday, March 2020]Good morning. We have Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit on our HTPC and also on the laptop that I’m typing on right now. Windows Update is set to “Check for updates but let me choose ….”. Control Panel / Windows Update is currently showing 1 important update, namely Windows Update KB4541509.
Should I install it now or wait for updated wisdom to appear here?
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AskWoody_MVPMarch 13, 2020 at 12:23 pm #2190422v2004 finally got a new update Fri 3/13 after 10am pacific local time – KB4541738 build 19041.153 in the Slow ring
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 13, 2020 at 4:25 pm #2190516Nibbled To Death By Ducks
AskWoody PlusMarch 13, 2020 at 8:18 pm #2190571Am being offered:
2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)
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(Didn’t see 4540688 on Susan’s latest excel spreadsheet…too soon or my old eyes are really giving out.)
As far as SSU’s go, I don’t seem to have either KB4537829 or KB4537829.
Last month, the SSU’s were offered after the February Rollup was installed.
- Does the order matter?
- Has MSFT gone SSU mad? (I’m sure I have!)
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 13, 2020 at 8:32 pm #2190574Am being offered:
2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)
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(Didn’t see 4540688 on Susan’s latest excel spreadsheet…too soon or my old eyes are really giving out.)
As far as SSU’s go, I don’t seem to have either KB4537829 or KB4537829.
Last month, the SSU’s were offered after the February Rollup was installed.
- Does the order matter?
- Has MSFT gone SSU mad? (I’m sure I have!)
You need the previous month’s Win7 SSU installed to get the current month’s patches offered. If you don’t see the current month offered [and you have ESU], then download and install the previous [or current?] momth’s SSU. So yes, every month Win has a SSU now.
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AskWoody PlusMarch 13, 2020 at 10:39 pm #2190603You need the previous month’s Win7 SSU installed to get the current month’s patches offered.
Yup, I am being offered the March Rollup and MSRT, but not the new SSU’s. I guess this means it’s just like last month, when, after installing the Feb Rollup and MSRT, I checked and was offered new SSU’s.
Oh, man, a new SSU (‘s) each time? BLIMEY! Someone’s lost their marbles up there, or they’re awfully paranoid about ESU workarounds/piracy.
Thanks for the tip!
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AskWoody LoungerMarch 14, 2020 at 8:17 am #2190700I think that if you let WU install all important current month updates, the SSU gets done in there somewhere to prep for next month’s updates. In other words, if you install everything offered under “important”, and you DON’T skip a month, then it “should” just work. I suspect that if you hold off on a month’s updates until the next month’s are released, you may need to manually install last months SSU to see the current month’s updates.
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GuestMarch 14, 2020 at 10:45 am #2190731Good point, and we did install both the service stack update and the monthly anti-malware thing, so we’re at least up to date on those. One thing I don’t get is why an SSU is needed with any frequency. They used to only do that rarely (or maybe now-and-then). I suppose they just change soooo much in an update these days that it won’t work unless they prepare your system specially.
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GuestMarch 17, 2020 at 4:11 am #2207946I have had no problems with W8.1 64 bit Group B style security only updates in 2 PCs as I reported at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/patch-tuesday-update-disappearing-smbv3-patch-non-security-office-patches-and-a-so-far-mild-patch-tuesday/#post-2190955 (although the update installation process did take a long time on the 1st PC), but the contributor “magic” (a few posts above mine) reported a colleague’s “other half” being unable to boot after attempting to install.
BTW: I always make a system partition image before a windows update, just in case …
HTH. Garbo.
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