How to use Vivaldi for your email and calendar

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ISSUE 19.37 • 2022-09-12 SOFTWARE By Lance Whitney Beyond its role as an alternative browser, Vivaldi will help you access your email, contacts, and c
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Given the amount of exploits undiscovered/ discovered and fixed in chromium based browser iterations this year and last… I generally don’t trust ANY browsers to do anything other than what the name implies, browse websites, no-matter who or what the underlying build type is.

Security by isolation wins hands down here YMMV

There are also security concerns to consider if people use 3rd party browser extensions, add-ons or plug-in’s that ‘access all website visited data’
Using a browser that can access your email and calendar may on the surface seem ‘smart’ but think carefully before jumping into the ‘smart’ gene pool..before drowning in sorrow.

Remember, anything FREE and YOU are the product.

Windows - commercial by definition and now function...

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This is odd–the AskWoody Plus newsletter that arrived at my inbox contains an article by Brian Livingston, “Twitter accounts are 80% bots, expert says”. The article is also included in the online version of the newsletter.

However, differently from the rest of this week’s newsletter articles, this one isn’t shown on the AskWoody home page, nor does there appear to be a forum topic for readers to discuss it.

This is ironic because I came online precisely to comment on that post, and yet there is no topic related to it as there is for all the other newsletter articles. So I must ask: could a bot have swallowed the discussion thread for Brian’s piece?  🙂

 

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It’s there now. I slipped up.

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I had the same issue. I went directly to the source (Will Fastie via the Editor email address found at the bottom of every newsletter I receive). This is the fastest way to get things like this corrected.

After that got fixed I had my say in that Comments thread.

Thanks for fixing this, Will.

 

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I used Vivaldi in the past, but no longer recall why I dropped it. I don’t so much dislike integration of software as integration mainly with Microsoft products as I was already using and was pleased with a number of different programs rather than the Microsoft versions well before Microsoft introduced them (and I attribute to that my NEVER HAVING A “BLUE SCREEN” problem until I made the mistake of buying the Norton Utilities Y2K fix as there was NOTHING on the packaging or in the installation protocol to indicate Internet Explorer was required for that software to work AT ALL, for I would have aborted the installation IMMEDIATELY. Instead, I simply removed it after the fact and until I taught myself how to hack the registry to eliminate certain behavior, had “BLUE SCREEN” issues. A good example of why backing up one’s registry is a good idea? I don’t actually know. After all, the backup software is written by Microsoft).

I find myself wondering how well Vivaldi now integrates itself with other software, and email clients in particular, along with what specific features are available. For example, I still used Netscape 4.6 to archive my emails because EVERY OTHER READER either would not read my Netscape files, or would not allow me to clone my file directory to another computer. I use the same file structure on all my computers so I don’t have to guess where to look for a specific file when I need it. I also like that Netscape gives me the ability to use Boolean-like search perimeters with my email archives and do so globally, something lacking in my web-mail client.

Since I have used Vivaldi in the past and abandoned it, and it is not the only software I have abandoned or refused to upgrade when new releases removed features that I liked and found very useful, I am curious to know if Vivaldi would be worth my looking at it a second time.

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How much memory does the added email client use? I recently switched to Thunderbird and it works very well but is a bit of a memory hog compared to The Bat which I used to use: ~.4 Gig vs ~50 Megs. Vivaldi browser itself also tends to suck up a fair bit of available memory not unlike other Chrome based browsers.

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I don’t and won’t use anything Google/Chrome/Blink.  Period.

I find it somewhat incongruous that an entity (AskWoody) that touts privacy and online safety can be so cavalier about the world’s best know privacy intruder and data gatherer/reseller and its offspring.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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I’m not following the logic.  You are saying that they port data over to Chrome?  Just because something is built on a base of something doesn’t mean that they do the same actions.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Susan Bradley wrote:

I’m not following the logic.

I’m not saying that they port data over to Chrome.  What I posted:

bbearren wrote:

I find it somewhat incongruous that an entity (AskWoody) that touts privacy and online safety can be so cavalier about the world’s best know privacy intruder and data gatherer/reseller and its offspring.

I just ran a search in articles for Chromebook.

bbearren wrote:

I don’t and won’t use anything Google/Chrome/Blink. Period.

bbearren wrote:

I have less trust in twitter than I have in Google, and I have no trust in Google.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

Computer Specs

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All of my events are on a Yahoo calendar, provided by my ISP provider AT&T, who contracts with Yahoo for e-mail service within which is the Yahoo calendar. Can Vivaldi import/access Yahoo’s calendar? My guess is that since Vivaldi can access my e-mail service and since the Yahoo calendar is accessible via the Yahoo e-mail service, the calendar is accessible, too.

But, I am not sure how these interfaces work.

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Add and manage mail accounts

https://help.vivaldi.com/mail/mail-get-started/add-and-manage-mail-accounts/ 

Includes a section with the details for Yahoo Mail.

 

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this is second, and going to be much shorter, attempt at a reply on this topic.  as i was nearing the end of last reply vivaldi suddenly closed, and the reply was lost.

i have used vivaldi browser for years.  the instructions in article for setting up mail are deficient. I was not offered option to use oauth for the gmail account.  setup failed and i eventually found the option in ‘manual server setup’.

accessing the mail panel and pinning its icon to side of browser window took some research.

and, vivaldi is failing at popping mail from the account.  the mail is there, at gmail site, not downloading into vivaldi.

like a number of features that vivaldi adds on to the browser function (sync, saved searches) Mail doesn’t seem to work so well.  or, for me, on this one account, at all.

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I don’t need a browser to do email, because I already have an email client. Besides, I am one for simplicity in all things (even if that means taking some occasional risks), and in this case that is easy for me to achieve by ignoring all the new stuff, as I don’t need it.
I have Vivaldi “Essentials” version, and find it quite sufficient.
Not sure exactly who might benefit from the new features, apparently still in need of having some rough-edges filed away. Lance Whitney has done a very good job explaining how to use these features, but leaving, at least for me, the potential audience for his blog undefined.

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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i use outlook for most email.
And had used it for popping gmail, until google changed the rules and made using outlook difficult.  Now it would involve using imap, and giving google my cell phone for setting up 2fa.  I don’t want either of those.

So i set up a filter in gmail accounts to forward the few senders I care about to another email account that outlook can access.  and the rest of whatever goes to  gmail i don’t look at.

using vivaldi to check gmail seemed like a potentially useful option,  though.

I had tried setting up thunderbird, in the past, but found it too complicated, needing too much time and research to set up.

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astro46 wrote:

I had tried setting up thunderbird, in the past, but found it too complicated, needing too much time and research to set up.

I have to agree. It’s been three days or more and I am still working on getting things set up in TB the way I want.

I still haven’t figured out how to sync my provider’s contacts with TB’s contacts. The same goes for the calendar.

Using the Windows 10 Mail app is easy-peasy in this regard, compared to TB. Of course, the Mail app has limitations — for example, takes a long time to sync, can’t download e-mail, doesn’t have local folders.

Vivaldi could be as complicated. Don’t know about that, though.

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rc primak wrote:

I went directly to the source

Thanks for putting a target on my back.

rc primak wrote:

Thanks for fixing this, Will.

Just the job. When I screw up, I gotta fix it.

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