Has the release of Windows 10 version 1803, due today, been delayed?

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Here’s a weird one. Just a few minutes ago, Robert Herman, Brad Sams, John Ellsworth and Paul Thurrott had this exchange on twitter: https://twitter.c
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You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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Cybertooth

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Mere singularity…

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Indeed… Microsoft has got to a point that even basic responsible quality control (for a change) has become a big thing.

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Shouldn’t it be 1804 by now?

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Rock wrote:

Shouldn’t it be 1804 by now?

Maybe that is the holdup, version control?

That would make Windows 10 and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Linux on parallel release.

Perhaps the TotalMeltdown charade has delayed the release?

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Heh, imagine that it could take a month to reset the version branding, make new builds, do system testing, etc., etc…

However, the reality is nowadays probably more like one guy throws code up to the Github server, the automated build picks it up, and voila, everyone gets an update the next night.

-Noel

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There’s a hitch in Microsoft’s updating process? Surely not! Say it isn’t so!

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Microfix

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One can only hope….

Seriously, if they’re holding off on 1803 to fix a major bug, I’m all for it. Grateful, actually.

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I was just thinking, “I hope they are making sure they aren’t introducing Total Meltdown into Windows 10” …

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1803 could be delayed til either this Thursday 4/12 or next Tuesday 4/17.
well the 1709 FCU release came out Oct. 17, 2017 (3rd Tuesday)

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woody

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If they were really serious about making it better, they would change it to Version 1903.

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no way, bobcat.

1903 = March 2019 release [YYMM]

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That’s precisely the point. Except I’d vote for another year beyond that.

-Noel

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It be even better if they changed it to version 6.1.7601

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Related?

Leak or release date 4/10/2018 – 10.0.17133.1009 (rs4_release_svc_analog.180406-1700)

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Even the Windows ADK link is down, something fishy

on the other hand, ESD links are still up and working

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Isn’t the ESD all that matters?

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Phewww~But still keeping my eye out. PLEASE LET IT BE delayed til tomorrow or thursday or next tuesday…Please please please so I can hide it.

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Good news:
I have managed to COMPLETELY disable windows update in W10 1709
Neither troubleshooter nor SFC or DISM has been able to bring it back to life.
No, not the reset script either!

Bad News:
I have no idea how i managed it, so I can’t repeat or restore it… =;-)

Blessing or Curse?

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RamRod

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I had that happen for a period of about 6 weeks with v1709. Then it started working again, and I don’t actually think I changed anything to make it work. This happened once during the life of v1703 for me as well.

Based on my personal experience, I’d say the update process in Windows 10 seems to fall over if you look at it wrong, kind of like an opossum.

-Noel

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Downloading now:

2018-04 update for Windows 10 1709 32-bit

2018-04 update for Windows 10 1709 Mobile

No sign of 1803…

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Build 17133 got updated:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/03/27/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17133-for-fast/

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Also reported by Paul Thurrott here: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/156224/windows-10-redstone-4-gets-cumulative-update-insiders

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bobcat5536 wrote:

If they were really serious about making it better, they would change it to Version 1903.

Hehe, if they were really serious, they would start all over again -or- strip it of all the telemetry, snoopware, 90% of apps, ads, forced updating, bloat of all sorts, etc…  My 2cents

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John in Mtl wrote:

bobcat5536 wrote:

If they were really serious about making it better, they would change it to Version 1903.

Hehe, if they were really serious, they would start all over again -or- strip it of all the telemetry, snoopware, 90% of apps, ads, forced updating, bloat of all sorts, etc… My 2cents

Telemetry – MS profits

snoopware – MS profits

bloatware – MS profits

ads – MS profits

forced updates – MS profits

As long as people use Windows 10 – Microsoft won’t pass on this. I wouldn’t.

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Actually I think version 1703,1709,1803 will be very confusing when we enter to year 2020.

Say version 2003, 2009 are actually released on Mar 2020 and Sep 2020, not on 2003 and 2009.

I think the best approach is version 10.01, 10.02, 10.03, etc, or 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.

Because those are major updates and version name can accurately deliver the version information to both developer and user.

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Great Lake Bunyip

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No to mention Windows Server 2019 version 2003

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It doesn’t seem to make sense until you realize… Confusion, not clarity, is an actual goal. Getting folks used to change is another goal, not stability. They’re trying to numb us all to a new reality, which is very much not like the old reality.

It’s called Marketing.

You’re not supposed to want to trade money for products with value. You’re supposed to want to pay continuously to participate in the big game. You’re not supposed to want things that work, you’re supposed to delight in the discovery of new things, though they may have existed before or not be useful.

How else can things that used to be considered wrong be presented as right today? Remember when software had to work right, or come with a genuine promise that it’d be made to work right, before we’d actually BUY it? Remember when Windows Defender was created as anti-spyware? Remember when software that sought to take over your system was considered malware? When “opt out” installers with piggy back payloads were considered bad? Remember when a 3 year OS release cadence made perfect sense? Remember when you had to pay for the work that went into making something complex and powerful?

Microsoft got rich on all that, yet it’s not at all how they’re doing things today.

The fascinating thing is that many folks don’t see how (or how much) they’re being manipulated.

-Noel

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I think it’s more a case of the ten-minute, actually about two-year employee. Management pushes new product development as opposed to maintenance and testing. New development is high-profile and the new employee gains accolades for product creation and then leaves on the wave. Maintenance and testing are left to remaining employees or not performed at all.

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Boling frog anyone?

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Ah, the new release seems to be off with a start as good as you could expect from the history of Windows 10. Can’t wait to see what other surprising bugs have slipped from Microsoft’s “Users as QA” process.

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From SuperUser website forum:

https://superuser.com/questions/1313206/windows-10-documents-folder-is-empty-after-a-windows-update-windows-10-version-1

Problems are starting to show up concerning 1709 KB4093112 OS Build 16299.371

Anyone else hearing about this?

 

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Now there is talk from people informed in general about a newer release 17134!
Fake news?!
https://twitter.com/buildfeed/status/984377336282759168

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Rather not. Seems to be tested internally for now.

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There’s this in The Register though it’s speculative

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/12/windows_10_spring_creators_update/

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I just discovered yesterday that build 17133.1 caused my internet download speed to drop from 960 mb to 100 mb. I restored an older backup and my download speed was back to normal again. I wonder if I was the only person to see this?

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You didn’t have your connection set to “metered” to throttle Windows Update, did you?
Just asking a silly question.

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PKCano,

I don’t believe it was set for “metered”. I’ve never used that setting before. I just set it for “metered” and the speedtest runs normally.

The crazy thing was that I spent a lot of time troubleshooting a hardware problem and not finding anything before I tried a backup. I even had the ISP out to check my connection.

All I can say is Thanks Microsoft!

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Probably gave you a driver “update” for your network card. If it worked correctly it would have had (noticeable) no effect.

microsoft: “you need a driver update for your network card”
benefits: almost nothing usually
side effects: might break networking, slow it down, or cause other trouble.
microsoft: “but the version number is higher!”

If the driver you are using works for you keep it unless you have reason to change. If you have reason to update a driver do it under a controlled situation. Unless you are running windows 10, then it will happen “whenever” and without strong reason or notification.

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Once updated to version 1803 of windows 10 it seems to be impossible to install Office 2013. If you have installed Office 13 prior to the 1803 upgrade there is no problem but otherwise the microsoft installer fails at about 90% with no detailed error message

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I will try to work on confirming that tomorrow.  (Mr. Natural not logged in)

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I did not have any problems installing office 2013 pro plus on windows 1803. Check your event viewer for any error messages. Thanks.

Red Ruffnsore

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