• Group Policy settings have changed

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    #2289185

    I was reading the newsletter today and read Susan’s column about group policy settings and decided to check mine (which have been set for some time to Semi Annual Channel 365 days).

    When I checked this morning, there are now new selections (which evidently changed when I went to 1909) to Preview Build-Fast instead of Semi Annual Channel.

    grp-policy-settings

    Should I move back to Semi Annual or just leave it as is.

    Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
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    • #2289200

      I believe That is going to put you in the Insider Preview Builds.
      You should go back to Semi Annual Channel. That will give you Patch Tues Security Updates but not the C, D, E week Previews.
      Go look at AKB2000016, particularly the information for 1909 (Sections 3 & 4) and the screenshots below for those sections.

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      • #2289205

        Thanks PK but AKB2000016 doesn’t mention any of the Preview Build Fast/Slow etc. so I guess I will go back to Semi Annual as it was before. Even with the Preview Build Fast set at 365, it hasn’t allowed 2004 yet.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #2289378

          I’m curious why you are setting feature update time in group edit and not in GUI advanced update area?

          Also, as I have been having such a time w/ wushowhide and the .net PREVIEW (KB ending in 900) I am wondering if these settings apply to .net patches?(upgrades?updates whatever they are)?

          Also, it seems pk says only use the =2 notify, don’t download, in grp edit and now I guess(?) the feature freeze that was touted last month as a gem to be set in the registry is ok to set from grp edit?, so doesn’t all this go against his sage advice?

          it is confusing when some settings are in GUI and others in registry and even others(or same ones!) are in Group editor. Can’t we get just one preferred way to adjust these settings?? and what happens if they are set in more than one place?

          • #2289523

            I’m curious why you are setting feature update time in group edit and not in GUI advanced update area?

            There was at least one time when MS “made a mistake” and bypassed the Advanced GUI setting and I wasn’t caught because I had it set in Group Policy so that’s what I use.

            Also, as I have been having such a time w/ wushowhide

            I’ve never used wushowhide, With Pro I just use Grp Pol.

            Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
            All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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            • #2289602

              i think i’ll just use pause and when it gets about 2 weeks in, resume updaates w/o an internet connect, thereby giving another 35 days.

              It works.

          • #2289528

            Can’t we get just one preferred way to adjust these settings?? and what happens if they are set in more than one place?

            Both ways point to same place in OS. Does not matter which way you go. Unless..

            There was at least one time when MS “made a mistake” and bypassed the Advanced GUI setting

            What concerns me more, that @CADesertRat ‘s settings were overriden by MSFT. They obviously put him into betatest channel, while he states

            which have been set for some time to Semi Annual Channel 365 days

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            • #2289596

              What concerns me more, that @CADesertRat ‘s settings were overriden by MSFT. They obviously put him into betatest channel, while he states

              Just to point out, this evidently happened after I went to 1909 and at that point the GP was still correct but has since changed so I believe that it must have been 1 of the cum. updates that caused the wording/selections in GP to change.

              BTW, it changed on ALL the computers in the house with 1909 and wasn’t noticed until after the July updates so draw your own conclusions. If you are using GP, you may want to check your settings.

              Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
              All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #2289208

      If you want 2004 to be offered, set the Feature deferral to 50 days

      OR

      Use the Target Release Version setting = 2004

      + Setting Target Release Version – This can be used to specify when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received instead of using feature update deferrals. The settings can be made in two ways in Win10 Pro. (See screenshots in #2286499 below.)
      You can make manual entries in the Registry as described in Section 2 for Win10 Home. But an easier way in Win10 Pro is using Group Policies. In Group Policy use these settings:
      Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update for Business
      Select the target Feature Update version = Enabled, Target Version for Feature Updates = 1909 (or whatever version you want to stay on, or upgrade to)
      Making the settings in Group Policy will set the corresponding Registry settings in the proper location. So you do not need to use both methods.
      **NOTE: It should also be noted that if the device is not updated before it reaches EOS, the device will automatically be updated once it is 60 days past end of service for its edition.

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      • #2289216

        I do not want 2004 so I set it back to semi Annual and also set Disable Previews to enabled.

        Disable-Preview-Builds
        WU-4-Business

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #2289235

      Will those settings keep 2004 away?

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2289240

        Set the Target Release Version to 1909 – but read the caveat in the **NOTE

        With Feature deferral at 365 days you should be safe for a LONG time.
        You probably don’t need the other stuff. My example in Section 4 is all I use and I haven’t EVER been pushed as long as I watch the 365 days and don’t let it expire. All I use is the “2” (notify download/install) and the Feature deferral = 365.

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        • #2289245

          Set the Target Release Version to 1909 – but read the caveat in the **NOTE

          Would that be necessary with the settings that I have made already or should it be in addition to the other settings already enabled? EOL for 1909 should have quite a way’s to go shouldn’t it?

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

          • #2289289

            EOL for 1909 should have quite a way’s to go shouldn’t it?

            v1909 will not reach end of life until 11th May 2021. See the Windows 10 release information page for more details.

            So, with the Feature deferral pulldown set to 365, that would mean v2004 will be offered on 11-12th November this year, as that is a year after 1909 was released.

            I imagine by then v2004 will have most of the bugs ironed out, but if not the Target Feature Release version set to 1909 in Group Policy would prevent you from being offered v2004 (at least, I believe so) past the v1909 anniversary and would not install a newer Feature update until 60 days after v1909’s end of life – which means you could feasibly stay on v1909 until on or around 11th July 2021.

    • #2289279

      I don’t see the point for extensive GPEdit tweaks.
      I use only 2 GP settings: 2=notify don’t download, block drivers updates = enable.
      combined with
      Windows Update – advanced options :
      Feature updates deferred to 365 days
      Quality updates deferred to 21 days.

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by Alex5723.
    • #2289300

      I have been using gpedit happily for quite some time (also use 2=notify before download) until I saw the changes this morning in choices/terminology.

      As to 2004, When there is an ok and the bugs are worked out I will do as I usually do for a Feature Update. I will go to gpedit and change the 365 to 0 and then click on resume updates to get 2004 and then go back to gpedit and reset it to 365 days along with pausing updates for 35 days.

      When I saw the “Preview Build Fast” terminology, it scared the heck out of me LOL, hence the questions.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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