• Free non-VOIP number or some cheap alternative

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    #2418824

    Hi,

    Hopefully this is in the correct forum. I am looking for a free non-VOIP number. I am having issues activated an account. My telephone line was converted from DSL to FIOS and now it is a VOIP. Many sites like hotmail, gmail, bank, etc do not want to except it. I talk to my bank and said that need to talk my provider. My provider said that need to talk to bank. Things are going in circle. I can not get anyone from hotmail or gmail to get back to me. But most like will get the same response like from the bank.

    Does anyone know of a free non-VOIP number? It would be need for one time activation so a temporary number will be fine with me.

     

    Any suggestions?

     

    Other wise, what other options are there? I do not have a cell phone. I read that some burner phones might work but not sure which would  work and be the cheapest since have not much money.

    I am already paying my current provider over $150 for internet and phone. Before on DSL, I had only bill of $80 for both. Now it is almost double and have limits what can do with my number.

     

    Thank you.

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    • #2418934

      Most phone lines today that are not cellular are now VoIP. Can’t understand why your FIOS phone number is being rejected for that reason.

      You may just want to cancel the FIOS voice plan, and go with internet only. Then get a decent 3rd party VoIP service like Ooma. They will assign an available number in your area, or you can port an existing landline or cell number over to it. I’ve been using Ooma for over 10 years and could not be happier. Very inexpensive!

      Alternatively, pre-paid cellular phones (often referred to as burners) such as from Tracfone are also very inexpensive, and you can keep the newly assigned phone number as long as you keep adding airtime. I believe 30 days is the minimum refill. If you let it expire, then your number goes away and the phone is deactivated. If you want to keep it active year round, there are 365 day airtime plans for about $120 ($10/mo).

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    • #2418978

      Many businesses do not except VOIP. I  worked in the business and know the reason is that VOIP are not easy to track. This is why most scammers use them and  this is why they are not accepting them. Plus with VOIP it is easier to due fake caller ID since you can inject what ever ID you want.

       

      Cell phone are now the best tracking and listening devices and this is why business want them. I remember siting in a factory building with over 1000 employees listening to all the conversion that people were having and taking notes if key words were mentioned. Now computers have replaced that place.

       

      Even with a burner phone, you might not be able to get authenticated.  Many are automatically add to a list to be blocked and are more tracked since most are used by crime organization. You might try like the poster above mentioned a Tracfone first Those are very cheap. But will be changed over to Verizon soon and will get worse. Try  US Mobile as second option or Mint as third option or Ting as fourth option.

       

      There are other sites that offer non-VOIP but I have not tried them. Most are paid from my knowledge but I have not used any over 6 years. Do not use credit card. Use a prepaid card and be prepared to lost some money before find a one that might work. Good luck in your search.

    • #2419098

      I will have to look at Ooma after I get this resolved. But since it is a VOIP, it will not solve my current issue.

      I was hoping for a free solution since need only 1 min to get it authenticated but I will try Tracfone since seems two people have recommend it. Will wait to see if anyone else had any feedback. Hopefully it will work since second person mentioned it might not.

      There are other sites that offer non-VOIP but I have not tried them. Most are paid from my knowledge but I have not used any over 6 years. Do not use credit card. Use a prepaid card and be prepared to lost some money before find a one that might work.

      Do you recall what the sites you used and how much did they cost IE $2 or $5 or more? What prepaid card did you use?

    • #2419113

      One was https://www.textverified.com, and other was a foreign website. Seems to be shut down now since they were using clone SIM.  It was usually $10 or more when I used these.

      I used Bluebird by American Express and Movo Virtual Prepaid Visa Card.

    • #2420705

      I got a Tracfone over the weekend. I paid  over $90 for a cellpone and calling card. It does not work with activation. It seems just waste my money.

       

      Will have to try the website after I get a prepaid card.

       

      Now I see why   poster above mentioned this: “..lost some money before find a one that might work”.

      I was hoping asking people online would help avoid that. Will see how the next one goes..Crossing finders.

    • #2420752

      That’s how it is now. Good people need to find work around for the security that should protect them (in actually it does not protect them).

      Hackers just bypass any security without any issues.

      There is no security now a days. It cause good people to just waste their time and money and still end on on the losing side.

      Prepaid card is a must. Some sites are good but some sites are just trying to steal your info.

      Good luck again.

    • #2421190

      I don’t think I can help the original poster, but I wonder if there is a place on the Forums I can post my how-to for converting a FiOS (but probably any provider, e.g. Xfinity/Comcast) landline into a free Google Voice (but probably any provider, e.g. Ooma) number?  Nothing jumped out at me as a good place to post.

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      • #2421289

        Good idea!

        It’s still a mystery to me why the OP has an issue with their FIOS number being rejected for activations. I suspect that it may be the actual number, or number range, that’s in use may be on some blacklist, not simply the fact that it’s VoIP.

        For example, I ported my Verizon cell phone number to Google Voice, and my AT&T landline number to Ooma years ago (both VoIP now), and have not had any issues with using them for account activations or verification.

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        • This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by JohnW. Reason: corrected typo
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        • #2421579

          Good idea!

          It’s still a mystery to me why the OP has an issue with their FIOS number being rejected for activations. I suspect that it may be the actual number, or number range, that’s in use may be on some blacklist, not simply the fact that it’s VoIP.

          For example, I ported my Verizon cell phone number to Google Voice, and my AT&T landline number to Ooma years ago (both VoIP now), and have not had any issues with using them for account activations or verification.

          • This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by JohnW. Reason: corrected typo

          Google Voice requires a phone number now to use it. You must have done it before that changed.

           

          You must be luck person than. Many people now have lost ability for account activation when landlines are converted to VOIP. VOIP are not easy tracked like I mentioned before. This is why many business are blocking VOIP for activation. Cell phone are now the best tracking and listening devices and this is why business want them. It is not easy with landlines.

    • #2421753

      I suspect that it may be the actual number, or number range, that’s in use may be on some blacklist, not simply the fact that it’s VoIP.

      I had this number for over 30 years now. Only thing that change was when from copper lines to FIOS and now it is a VOIP rather than a real phone number. I called my provide again and mentioned if they could check if I am on a blacklist but they mentioned that they could not and VOIP are not allows for authentication now a days and to get a cell phone with them for $50 a month on top of what I am paying them now. If I knew this, I would have kept my copper lines for as long as I could. One of my neighbors is fighting with them to keep her cooper lines. She is slow losing the battle with them.

      I tried to get google voice with my current number of 30 years  and does not work with it since google says it is a VOIP and does not want to create it.

    • #2421781

      I suspect that it may be the actual number, or number range, that’s in use may be on some blacklist, not simply the fact that it’s VoIP.

      I had this number for over 30 years now. Only thing that change was when from copper lines to FIOS and now it is a VOIP rather than a real phone number. I called my provide again and mentioned if they could check if I am on a blacklist but they mentioned that they could not and VOIP are not allows for authentication now a days and to get a cell phone with them for $50 a month on top of what I am paying them now. If I knew this, I would have kept my copper lines for as long as I could. One of my neighbors is fighting with them to keep her cooper lines. She is slow losing the battle with them.

      I tried to get google voice with my current number of 30 years  and does not work with it since google says it is a VOIP and does not want to create it.

      If you had it for over 30 years, it would not be on blacklist but will be on a list that long term client and easy to make profit off. Your telephone company sold your data to autobot callers. I know that when i worked, we would sell that data to make profit for the company per instruction from high up VIP. I am assuming you get at least 5 or more robo calls per week. This is a sign that your phone number was sold for profit.

      • #2422852

        They must have sold it. I  get like 5 or more per day… when it went to VOIP. The old copper lines I might have gotten 1 or 2 per week.

        I think I am giving up on this. I got the prepaid credit card and tried on that site and it did not work. Support told me to buy another number and try again. When it did not work, was told again to try again and same result.

        It seems I will not be able to set this up. I give up since just wasting my time and money.  Thanks everyone that tried but I am too old to learn new things. If hackers steal my account, good for them. They must be smarter than I with this security that does not work for us old timers.

        • #2423024

          Sorry to hear that. But it is true. The security that is made is more problematic for normal people. Hackers know several ways to bypass them.

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