Firefox 2 is released (Fx 2)

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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a liftoff.

Firefox 2 is released.

I don’t know if they like the use of links to their FTP site, anyhow it can be found there.

One can find it among latest updates at filehippo.com also, if one use or want English version:
http://www.filehippo.com/%5B/url%5D

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oooh oooh have you got it, for some reason my proxy server here is blocking FTP so I will have to wait until I get home

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Firefox 2 will be released tomorrow and will be available from http://www.mozilla.com/%5B/url%5D

It is best to avoid links to 3rd party sites because it can not be guaranteed what version they are supplying, many sites in the past have claimed to offer the new version of Firefox but actually supply one of the nightly builds or a release candidate that turned out not to be the final build.
You did the right thing in not posting an ftp link, Mozilla prefer that they are not posted since the official link (en-US version) will share the load amongst the different ftp sites.

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Tony,
I agree completely with you. I did know that the release is coming; and with all users waiting around the world I understand that Mozilla would like to get a smooth release and update process. Maybe I got a little too happy …

I also agree with you that I avoid 3rd party sites, with their own copies, if I can.

I should have said that I KNOW they don’t like links to the FTP sites, as many others. My link to filehippo.com was more to give at least some information. I know that filehippo has been mentioned and used by some here at the Lounge.

Anyhow, I would also like to say that they are doing a great job with translations. For several releases, many language versions has been simultaneous released. Anyone who has seen the Swedish in The Muppet Show knows we need a different browser …

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OK, I’ve translated your own post for you:[indent]

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Tuny, I egree-a cumpletely veet yuu. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp! I deed knoo thet zee releese-a is cumeeng; und veet ell users veeeting eruoond zee vurld I understund thet Muzeella vuoold leeke-a tu get a smuut releese-a und updete-a prucess. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Meybe-a I gut a leettle-a tuu heppy … I elsu egree-a veet yuoo thet I efueed 3rd perty seetes, veet zeeur oovn cupeees, iff I cun. I shuoold hefe-a seeed thet I KNOV zeey dun’t leeke-a leenks tu zee FTP seetes, es muny oozeers. Um gesh dee bork, bork! My leenk tu feelehippu.cum ves mure-a tu geefe-a et leest sume-a inffurmeshun. I knoo thet feelehippu hes beee menshuned und used by sume-a here-a et zee Luoonge-a. Unyhoo, I vuoold elsu leeke-a tu sey thet zeey ere-a dueeng a greet jub veet trunsleshuns. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Fur seferel releeses, muny lungooege-a ferseeuns hes beee seemooltuneuoos releesed. Bork bork bork! Unyune-a vhu hes seee zee Svedeesh cheff in Zee Mooppet Shoo knoos ve-a need a deefffferent brooser

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Exactly, that is what I meant to say … Amazing things, these translation tools

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As Opera did in 2003?

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I sent a heads up email to my University boss who is waiting with great excitement and this is what she said:

“Thanks. Take care – traditionally early releases in first few days can have devastating effects on windows systems – always better tested on Linux because of the geek density. ”

Not quite sure what she means by “geek density” though

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“…always better tested on Linux because of the geek density. ” Not quite sure what she means by “geek density” though .

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[/indent]Pretty clear, I would have thought; Linux has denser geeks! (They have it easier…)

John

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Well, it’s been Tuesday for quite a while now but still the Mozilla homepage is showing v1.5.0.7 and Help|Check for updates is saying there’s nothing new available. However, the download is available at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.or…x/releases/2.0/%5B/url%5D – although I’ve been holding off until the “official” release. It’s looking unlikely that I’ll see Firefox 2.0 before I go to bed tonight though!

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It depends if you like a late night, less than 3 hours to go. It is due for release at 1am BST

I don’t expect to see the update being available via “Help > Check for Updates…” for some time. There is a new update system that will be introduced in Firefox 1.5.0.8 that is specifically designed to handle major upgrades. I don’t think they will offer Firefox 2 as an upgrade option for Firefox 1.5.0.7
Firefox 1.5.0.8 is due out around November 1st, even then Mozilla may wait until the first security/stability update for Firefox 2 is released before they offer it as an upgrade on Firefox 1.5.0.8 – time will tell.

Edit: They went ahead a bit early, Firefox 2 is now available on the Mozilla site

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what is 1.5.0.8?

The Firefox download site went from 1.5.0 to 2?

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Firefox 1.5.0.8 is the next security/stability release and it is due to be released on the 1st November or thereabouts. It does contain one new feature, the minor/major software update system.

In Firefox 1.5 – 1.5.0.7 the software update system can only cope with minor updates, Firefox 1.5.0.8 will be able to cope with major updates. This software update system is similar to the one in Firefox 2.

When the update that allows users to update from Firefox 1.5.0.8 to Firefox 2 is turned on, users will be presented with a new dialog. Instead of a dialog saying “Update available” with the option to “download and install” you will get a different dialog that states “New Version Available”. This dialog will give brief details about the new version and the option to never install it. If you choose to install the new version the next dialog will be the EULA that you have to accept before you can download and install the new version.

The new update system allows for users of the Firefox 1.5 series to stay on that branch and only get notified of updates to new versions of Firefox 1.5 after they specify they do not want to upgrade to Firefox 2.

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So who should install 1.5.0,8 and who should install 2.0?

Tools | Extensions lists only

DOM Inspector 1.8.0.1, whatever that is.
Free downloadManager plugin
Flashgot, latest version.

On a system with McAfee VS 10, there’s also some thingamajig, ferget whether it’s an extension or something addd to McAfee.

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It really depends on you…

If you’re desperate to see Firefox 2 and don’t mind some of your extensions not working for a while, then Fx 2 is for you.
If, on the other hand, you want stability and reliability – leading edge not bleeding edge, to use a cliche -then I’d not bother updating until the automatic update prompts you to try 1.5.0.8 (which will in turn offer Fx 2).

Personally I’ve opted for Firefox 2 because I’m dangerously eager and keen.

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afaik, the extensions i use are already coded to work in ff 2
Perhaps, not the McAfee, but I’m gonna get rid of McAfee anyway,

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Mozilla does a few updates of earlier versions after each major release. I suspect that’s what 1.5.0.8 will be.

There is an interesting thread on the Firefox Builds board at the mozillaZine.org forums on how to install and run 1.5 and 2.0 side by side, but it’s a little complicated. It might just be easier to wait for a week or two until extensions are updated and bugs are shaken out before committing to 2.0.

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what is 1.5.0.8?

The Firefox download site went from 1.5.0 to 2?

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I’m no expert on Firefox builds, but obviously, as the name say it’s a new build in the 1.5.0.x branch.

As you know, or should know, the download page is for a standalone download. Much as with other software, IE7 et al, there will be updates to the older software for some time.

But for them who want to download Fx for the first time, Fx 2 seems to be the recommendation. As for other, older, users, and the intention of this thread, you can now download Fx 2 to take the step to the next generation browsers.

If I quote from this post Firefox 1.5.0.8 ready to ship, new Update functionality at the MozillaZine Forum:

“The changes are the usual security and stability fixes, as well as a usability fix for password fields in forms in Java applets.

In addition, the update manager now handles minor as well as major upgrades. This patch means users will be able to use Update to upgrade to Firefox 2.0.x. (Otherwise they would have to go to the Mozilla website and download it.) It looks like the “automatic” and suggested update path will be 1.5.0.7 to 1.5.0.8 to 2.0.1 (or maybe 2.0).”

This is in line with what Tony wrote.

But as I think I saw earlier you were waiting for the Fx 2, and don’t use the built-in update (either automatic or manually) the new update features in Fx 1.5.0.8 will not be that interesting for you.

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I don’t expect to see the update being available via “Help > Check for Updates…” for some time. There is a new update system that will be introduced in Firefox 1.5.0.8 that is specifically designed to handle major upgrades. I don’t think they will offer Firefox 2 as an upgrade option for Firefox 1.5.0.7

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You’re right – it doesn’t pick it up with check for updates. I tried that and it said there were none, then immediately I went to the site and downloaded 2.0. (And hey, it checks my spelling as I type this!)

Ian

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I installed Firefox 2 this morning and in the release notes I noticed that you don’t have to remove your previous version. Firefox 2 will over write it. After the installation, the Firefox Wizard informed me that 3 add-ons were not compatible, AiRoboform Toolbar (6.7.5); Firefox View (2.31.2) and Session Saver (2.0.2.1.031). It also stated that my incompatible add-ons would be checked periodically and it will inform me when compatible updates for them are found.

I like this version already, it’s going to make me change my browser from IE to Firefox. Be sure to read the release notes.

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You give me cause to smile, Gloria…

All these months and SO MANY Loungers encouraging you that it’s “safe” to install WinXP SP2 and your continued reluctance (aka fear?) to do so… And you JUMP at the chance to install a new, major version of Firefox without blinking an eyelash, on what amounts to the day it first hits the street. I’m glad, for Mozilla’s sake that it didn’t “crash” your machine. And good on ya (as the Aussies say) for the encouragement to others to read the release notes. I wish more folks would do just that. There IS something to be said for “reading the … manual.”

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One “reporter” (I use the word with disdain) is stating that FF2 frequently locks up after a couple of hours use. Anyone have related comments, or confirming or refuting evidence?

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The only thing I’ve seen John was here in the Lounge (post 608,361) and that was still a beta. Keep us posted if you see anything more.

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I haven’t used it continuously for that long yet, so can’t really comment. What I can say is that a colleague of mine has downloaded and installed IE7 as well as FF2. The IE7 download and installation took about half an hour; the FF2 download and installation was done in under two minutes.

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I’m so glad that I made you smile, I hate it when it seems you might be upset with me. You are making me ashamed about being such a coward when it comes to installing SP2, soon and very soon I will close my eyes, grit my teeth, hold my breath and do just that.

I hadn’t the slightest fear of Firefox 2, it never crossed my mind that it might not be ready for prime time. I’ve never had any problems at all with prior versions, so I’m also “glad for Mozilla’s sake that it didn’t crash.”
Would you believe it if I said that this was the first time I read the release notes for any program?

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it never crossed my mind that it might not be ready for prime time

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[/indent]That’s because you were consumed by the possibility that SP2 might not be ready for prime time. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t resist the irony in your statement.

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Excuse me if I don’t believe you’re sorry at all. You just had to rub it in, but I forgive you.

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It’s not so much rubbing it in, Gloria – it’s the irony. Firefox 2.0 is a brand new product with no established track record, in contrast to SP2 which has been around for much longer and whose (few) issues have long been documented and worked around. Pretend that SP2 is a point release to Firefox and install it!

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OK, OK, I’m convinced. I’ll install it this week-end and you and the rest of my friends better pray that all goes well.
Is it best to install it from Windows Update?

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Windows Update will probably be the quickest way for you. I personally download the entire package (network installation) since I cart it around and apply it to different computers. You can also do the “Express” install from the SP2 page on Microsoft’s website.

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One more question. Will Windows Update or Express give me the full installation?

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Yes. Both will do the same thing, which is to scan your system and download/install only what is necessary. It should result in a much quicker download and installation.

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I heard some pretty horrific stories about SP2 but eventually plucked up the courage to install it (on 3 computers) and had no problems with any of them. I think there’s been a bit of scaremongering going on (and I’ve probably been as guilty as anyone) but SP2 is safe enough.

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, we have never been this close, better sit still and quiet until Gloria comes back.

Adding to the OT branch.

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You have just become a charter member of the Pushing SP2 Club. Welcome, you’re in good company.

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I don’t know about the other, but you might find that Session Saver doesn’t get updated – there’s some new functionality in the core application that probably makes the extension redundant.

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Waggers, would you advise me to delete session saver since it can’t be updated. I don’t need any problems with the new version of Firefox.

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Sure. From the Tools menu, select “Add-ons”. In the popup window, click “Extensions”. Right-click on the extension you want to remove and click “Uninstall”.

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Good deal, thanks for the info. I already knew how, just wanted to know if I should.
By the way, I visited your WagWeb site and read the article about how to stop receiving silent phone calls – good information there.. I also sent a joke from your Humor page to my friends, the one titled How To Know You’re Drunk. Nice site, my compliments.

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Thanks very much. I have a fair bit more content to add to the humour section at some point…

I don’t think it really matters if you have a non-functioning extension in the list – it shouldn’t affect the browser at all in any significant way. The only real disadvantage to keeping it in the list is that it clogs up the list!

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Regarding removing the non-updatable extension, it has now been removed. Therefore that part of the discussion no longer exists.

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Home PC set up and this is my first post on Woody’s with FF2, load time seems good. I do not have extensions as I like to keep a “clean wrapper” so I can use it for College marking and development.

Once I get Xubuntu Linux 6.06 set up on my old box I shall load it up and get a comparison..looking good so far

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Roboform 6.8.1 will recognise FF2.0

Teunis

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