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If you receive a brand-new Windows 11 24H2 for Christmas and you do not want a Microsoft account, there is still a way around the Microsoft account ma
[See the full post at: Does the no@thankyou.com still work?]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Pull your Internet connection at that point.
Why not start the setting without Internet connection ?
Just curious… what happens if there is no Internet connectivity at time of ID setup?
what happens if there is no Internet connectivity at time of ID setup?
I tried that. The installation stops, and waits for you to connect. I gave up after an hour. And I run Pro.
I just deployed 11 Pro on a new machine. In the setup process, I was surprised to see a demand for Internet access at the very beginning, before any other dialogs. I didn’t try to wait for a timeout (and I don’t know that the handling between Pro and Home might be different here), and I put in a wi-fi key. From there, the installer made a Windows Update check, and then restarted, before beginning the normal setup dialogs.
In the setups, knowing where to find the Work or School option, I had no problems setting up a local ID, and on this install, I didn’t see whines about ignoring a Microsoft ID that I’ve seen in the past. Maybe that’s something that is specific to 24H2 that has changed from previous versions
If you have a separate modem and router, unplug the router from the modem.
If you have a modem/router combination, unplug the modem/router from the internet.
In either case, you will continue to have a network connection, but not an Internet connection.
You should check the manual for your laptop as it’s not always obvious where the Wi-Fi OFF/ON button is located or how to use it.
I.e., on my HP laptop you have to touch the Wi-Fi LED located above the keyboard to turn it OFF/ON.
It’s also possible your laptop may have an Airplane mode key that will disable the Wi-Fi.
Or…
The question was how to disable WiFi during Windows 11 initial setup to avoid having to setup a Microsoft account by using the oobe\bypassnro trick.
Since the Network & internet settings option isn’t available until after Windows has been installed, this suggestion wouldn’t work.
It wants/needs internet access to pull down updates during the initial install process.
Installing/upgrading from ISO you can skip the update requirement why not during initial setting ?
Thanks for asking this question Alex. I have an extremely slow internet and always do updates after the install. Still hope this is possible with a new PC coming with 24H2.
Susan,
Thanks for the latest from M’soft re: a mandatory account.
Maybe it’s me today… my attitude a little off, full moon, whatever… No, it’s not my attitude!!! It’s that Microsoft is constantly cramming crap down out collective throats which causes many thousands to work around the situation and find their better way. I’m so tired of Redmond, Washington bean counters fixing stuff that’s not broken. I succumbed to Windows 1022H2 on August 30 this year and was still very happy with my Win8.1 when I downloaded Win10 but was concerned I’d lose Firefox browser security updates based on Firefox indicating that would happen during September. I’ll attempt to hold on to Win10 for as long as this ol’DELL XPS 8500 allows me to. Ugh!!!
I’ll attempt to hold on to Win10 for as long as
0Patch, maybe?
Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster
I’ll attempt to hold on to Win10 for as long as
That is the plan, Mr. Austin. I’m looking to read more about what M’soft will offer with extended security updates (I’ve not updated myself with latest information) and definitely what 0patch will market. 0patch my numero uno choice at this time. Thanks for your input.
UPDATE!
I selected the 0patch link from your mail and read the site information and 0patch looks very promising.
Or, if you download the ISO, you can use Rufus to create a bootable image on a USB stick, and Rufus gives you the option to turn off a lot of options during install, such as the online account, automatically declines privacy options, TPM requirements, etc.
No matter where you go, there you are.
I live in Brisbane Queensland, Australia. I inquired at a local computer store about a laptop with windows 11 installed on it. They had a very good range of both laptops and desktop computers.
On inquiring re setting up a Microsoft Account ( which I do not want ), they told me that all their computers are sold with local accounts only set up on them.
Must be a lot of demand for local accounts here.
mbhelwig
They either go through a setup process or they are reimaging.
Because the set up process and “out of box experience” goes through this process every time.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
they told me that all their computers are sold with local accounts only set up on them.
And the first thing that I would do (without being connected to the internet) is to create my own local accounts (standard user and Administrator). And for the second thing –
This is good stuff to know about.
As the discussion down-thread has progressed, in the original post (or other discussions of this topic) it would be useful to explicitly designate that the handling of Home and Pro editions is different in this area, and that the methodology for one doesn’t apply to the other.
In other words:
– If you’re deploying a Home edition, you need to disrupt the process in the installer that Microsoft uses to create a user ID on its servers. In the past, supplying a email address known to be invalid, such as no@thankyou.com has been sufficient. Now, the new procedure that Susan has described.
– If you’re deploying a Pro edition, then going through the “Work or School” is what’s necessary (and simply submitting an invalid address, as with the Home edition) has never worked. This is the dialog that is used for putting a computer into a Windows domain, even if you don’t actually connect to a domain.
If you’re used to doing domain setups, configuring for Work or School is no big deal. However, I’ve found that for individuals that don’t normally do deployments of new machines and working on a Pro edition, it’s sometimes hard to find the dialogs (and where the “Work or School” designation is confusing to a user that’s that’s not in such an environment. Even when you find the setting, Microsoft still pushes for an Microsoft ID, and while the installer will allow you to bypass that, you generally have to go through more than one whine about all the good stuff that you’re supposedly missing if you don’t do a Microsoft ID.
So the “oobe\bypassnro” trick does NOT work for the Pro edition???
No, it does indeed work for the Pro edition, but you have to execute it at just the right time during the initial setup process.
The “Work or School” option is also available in the Pro edition, as evidenced in this post and Susan’s response just below it. The “Work or School” option just shows up on its own during the setup process, so you don’t have to wait for just the right time to execute it.
If I recall correctly, you’ll be asked what type of account you want to set up on the computer or how the computer will be used. This is where you should see a choice of “Individual” or “Work or School”. Selecting “Work or School” will allow you to bypass the Microsoft account setup and will set you up with a local, individual account.
I’m sure many folks have found that easier than trying to remember the right time to interrupt the setup routine and the correct way to enter the command that’s needed (folks have entered the command with the slash mark pointing the wrong way).
I hope this helps.
…An image of the text I have seen of the screen display at the Win11, “How would you like to set up this device” step that we are discussing, refers, under “Set up for work or school” to “your organization which will have full control over this device”. I assume that I will be my own “organization”,…
From everything I’ve read here on AskWoody, you are correct, although I’m not sure that you’ll be asked for an email address when you go through the “Work or School” setup routine, most likely you’ll just be asked for a username and a password to go with that username. Both the username and password will be stored locally on the computer you’re setting up.
Unfortunately, I don’t have any screenshots of the procedure to share with you to confirm things. However, perhaps others such as @PL1 , @bbearren , @PKCano , or @n0ads may be able to either provide a screenshot or, more likely, their own experience(s) to confirm (or even clarify a bit) what I’ve presented here.
Should you decide to go through this procedure, please keep in mind what @Still-Anonymous mentions in the post above:
Even when you find the setting, Microsoft still pushes for an Microsoft ID, and while the installer will allow you to bypass that, you generally have to go through more than one whine about all the good stuff that you’re supposedly missing if you don’t do a Microsoft ID.
So stay on your toes!
Ultimately, you are asked to provide a user name and password that create a local account.
One tip, if you aren’t aware, you can leave the PW field blank and Windows accepts it.
That should read, “always trust Microsoft, but be prepared for changes”.
cheers, Paul
when you go through the “Work or School” setup routine, most likely you’ll just be asked for a username and a password to go with that username.
No, you won’t be asked to setup a Microsoft account, and you can definitely install with a local account. Bear in mind that the first user is automatically a member of the Administrators group. I always use Admin for that account, and save bbearren for a Standard user account.
However, you will get some extra goodies installed suitable for a domain-like environment. I’ve done it that way, and it works, but I prefer to use <fakename>@mail.com. A little later in the installation process, you are offered to confirm the email address, and just skip that step. Once I’m finished with the initial setup, I create another Administrators group account, logout and login with the new account, then delete the <fakename>@mail.com account, and proceed with the rest of the setup to suit my liking.
This method still works.
When the “sign in” message shows, press Shift F10. This opens a Command Prompt window.
Type: ipconfig
You will see your Ethernet / Wi-Fi details.
Turn off Wi-Fi / unplug the cable.
Type: ipconfig
You will see no connection details.
Now type: oobe\bypassnro
cheers, Paul
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