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    This is the third time in the last six months where I have paused all updates until the end of the month (which I do every month), and Windows updated anyway. I restarted my computer a few minutes ago, and it immediately installed KB5036892.

    That is an update that is listed as Defer on Susan’s Master Patch List, so do I need to uninstall it? The bigger question is why did it install when I had all updates paused?

    By the way, I am running Windows 10 22H2.

    Thanks for any insight.

     

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    • #2661148

      The bigger question is why did it install when I had all updates paused?

      Consider the advantages of upgrading to Windows 10 Pro.  With  “Pro”  you can use the GPE (group policy editor) to eliminate update surprises so Win updates are not downloaded or installed until you click “Download”.

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/question-on-controlling-feature-updates/#post-2503639

      Wumgr is mentioned in the above thread.

      https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/releases/tag/v1.1

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    • #2661192

      @ThePhoenix

      The alternative to using a utility such as WuMgr, Windows Update Mini Tool or wushowhide to help manage updates on Home editions of Windows 10 or 11 is to make certain changes within the registry (yup, editing the registry), which is very doable but is NOT everyone’s cup of tea.

      The changes are described in detail here on AskWoody, just add a reply here if you’re interested.

      BUT, I have a VERY important question for you: Is your Windows 10 22H2 the Pro or the Home version? See the next paragraph for just how to find out.

      To find out for sure, go to Settings>System>Scroll down to the end of the list on the left side and select “About”>Scroll down to the bottom of that page and look under the heading of “Windows specifications” and it will be the first item listed.

      Up to this point, we’ve been presuming Home, based upon what you’ve written about using the Pause feature of Windows Update.

      Pro vs. Home makes a difference in how you can control Windows Update, and we want to provide you with the best overall advice on how to best deal with your problem of Windows Update seemingly ignoring your Pause setting.

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      • #2662328

        Thanks for the reply. I am running the Pro version of Windows 10. I had read that controlling updates was a problem with Windows Home, but I have never used the Home version of Windows.

        • #2662506

          Since you have the Pro edition of Windows 10, you can use the Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) to help control some of Windows Update’s undesired behavior. One of the more common ways to control the monthly updates is described by @Alex5723 in this post below, and is one that I use as well.

          If you have any further questions, just ask!

          P.S. Here’s a link to info from @PKCano on the use of Group Policy to control Windows Update in Windows 10. It’s a bit dated, but still very relevant, and even includes screenshots to help find what’s being talked about:

          https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000016-guide-for-windows-update-settings-for-windows-10/#post-2275043

          As I stated above, if you have questions about anything you see there, don’t hesitate to ask!

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    • #2661270

      Wumgr is mentioned in the above thread

      WUmgr doesn’t work when paused.

    • #2661286

      WUmgr doesn’t work when paused

      It allows you to stop automatic updates, then run them when you want and control which updates you install.

      cheers, Paul

    • #2661324

      The alternative to using a utility such as WuMgr, Windows Update Mini Tool or wushowhide to help manage updates on Home editions of Windows 10 or 11 is to make certain changes within the registry (yup, editing the registry),

      Another alternative is Windows Automatic Update (WAU) Manager.

      https://www.carifred.com/wau_manager/

      Does not require the user to touch the registry…or Group Policy (Windows Pro).

      Very simple config in the UI…

      Check “Disable the built in Windows Automatic Updates and use only WAU Manager”.

      Select “Normal – Automatically search for updates, but ask before download and install”.

      Select what types of updates to search for, and whether you want an automatic reboot if needed to complete the install.

      Not affiliated with the company.

       

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    • #2661325

      WUmgr doesn’t work when paused.

      If you use WAU Manager and select “Disable the built in Windows Automatic Updates and use only WAU Manager”, you never have to worry about “paused”.

       

       

    • #2661342

      This is the third time in the last six months where I have paused all updates until the end of the month (which I do every month), and Windows updated anyway. I restarted my computer a few minutes ago, and it immediately installed KB5036892.

      That is an update that is listed as Defer on Susan’s Master Patch List, so do I need to uninstall it? The bigger question is why did it install when I had all updates paused?

      By the way, I am running Windows 10 22H2.

      Thanks for any insight.

       

      The only way to guarantee updates won’t be installed is to disable the Windows Update service. But then you won’t be able to install any updates at all. Hiding updates with something like Windows Update MiniTool might work in some situations. However, my experience has been that if the update service is running, MS can and will install anything it thinks you need.

    • #2661386

      But then you won’t be able to install any updates at all

      That is not true if you use WuMgr or WAU Manager – it’s why we keep banging on about them.

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2661455

      PMFJI, but getting back to the Original Post, I use Pause on a regular monthly basis (Win 10 Pro 22H2), and have NEVER had intrusive updates.

      ?Could the OP be inadvertently clicking “Resume Updates”?

      ?Is “Download Updates as Soon as Available” set to OFF?

      ?Is this a Win 10 Home-specific problem??

      Just my 2 cents…

      Zig

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    • #2662446

      Thanks for the reply. I am running the Pro version of Windows 10

      Do you use GPEdit to pause (the preferred method for Pro users) ?

      Pausing works. Never got updates except for Defender.

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    • #2666676

      But then you won’t be able to install any updates at all

      That is not true if you use WuMgr or WAU Manager – it’s why we keep banging on about them.

      cheers, Paul

      also regarding WAU Manager, sometimes new versions of WAU Manager are released on its web site so always download & run the latest version of that app & replace the old version

    • #2666759

      so always download & run the latest version of that app & replace the old version

      Or, set it to update on start…

      Screenshot-2024-05-02-131237

       

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    • #2704594

      I know this is sounding like a broken record; but, once again, updates installed even though I have everything paused. I restarted my PC this afternoon and Update KB5043064 installed. This is one that Susan has listed on the Master Patch List as Defer; so, the question is – do I need to uninstall this update?

      I am running Windows 10 Pro 22H2.

      Thanks!

    • #2704630

      do I need to uninstall this update?

      If your PC is working normally with no unusual issues, then my take is NOT to uninstall the update.  I (with an image backup at ready) installed it last week without issues.

      Going forward, rather than pausing, I suggest using WuMgr to hide the update until Susan gives the ok.  Search the forums for info on WuMgr.  If you decide you’d like to try it, get it here.

      https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/releases

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    • #2704659

      I know this is sounding like a broken record; but, once again, updates installed even though I have everything paused.

      Something is faulty with your system (do you use 3rd party hacking app ?)
      I would advise running repair-install.

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