Do you like the demise of the Security Bulletin system?

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Simon Pope, Security group manager at the Microsoft Security Response Center really wants to know. This month marked our first release when security u
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The comments are accumulating fairly quickly, not many of them of a positive nature (so far, at least):
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/security/en-US/home?forum=securityupdateguide

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well woody I do not like the demise of the Microsoft Security Bulletin system.

The new Security Update Guide site is a little more complicated than the old MS Security Bulletin system.

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Pepsiboy, abbodi86

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Getting rid of the security bulletins makes it harder to find info on security updates.

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HiFlyer

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In my view, the new system is as transparent as mud. To M$, it’s ‘as clear as an azure sky of deepest summer’…

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HiFlyer

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Absolutely not. It’s more hoops to jump through to get the desired patch information.

 

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Fyi, I have just checked the Security Update Guide and there are no update lists for anything earlier than April 2016, which happens to be when MS first implemented optional monthly Cumulative Update Rollups for Win 7/8.1, eg the April 2016 Convenience Rollup KB3125574 or Win 7 “SP2”, available from MS Update Catalog.
. . . MS implemented non-optional monthly Patch Rollups in Oct 2016.

So, after a clean install of Win 7 SP1, there is likely no avenue for users to analyze, pick-and-choose to install or hide individual updates that are pre-April 2016.
. . . It’s Rollups all the way or “It’s my way or the highway”.

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HiFlyer

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The information in the Security Bulletins remains.

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In the pursuit of OS security, you WILL adhere to the update procedure with snooping, telemetry, untested patches resulting in counter productivity. With this in mind, I fear that Group B is now on the verge of extinction which was always going to be a false positive over time.

Thank you MS for violating my passion for MS operating systems over the last three decades having miss-spent time and money improving for MY/OUR needs, only to be undone by your malware flagship OS filtering down to W7 & W8.

Way to go MS

It’s not your OS to control any more so, IS there actually any need for bulletins?

Windows - commercial by definition and now function...

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Cybertooth, HiFlyer

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wow, transparancy in Windows Updates, that’s a nice statement.
to me it looks more and more not-understandable, for shure when the issue looks like careless “fixing” and using the common user as a guinea pig; sorry, but so it feels

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HiFlyer

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Fred wrote:

wow, transparancy in Windows Updates, that’s a nice statement. to me it looks more and more not-understandable, for shure when the issue looks like careless “fixing” and using the common user as a guinea pig; sorry, but so it feels

Security-update KB3150513 on W10? again?

 

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As stated above by others, I can’t stand the new system ! ! ! I’m trying now to decide if I should just take MS and pitch it in the trash, or go completely off line and only use the system I have that is stable for my off line computer needs. MS is doing a GREAT job of driving me off the internet completely. For me, the internet is a CONVENIENCE, not a NECESSITY. As I age, I am having less and less patience dealing with things that are not a necessity. MS is being clear as mud, and I dislike dealing with mud.

Dave

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Karlston, HiFlyer

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I posted Security Update Guide tips at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/patch-tuesday-patches-are-up/#post-107676.

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While I would always prefer to see MORE DETAILED documentation when I DO look for it, to be honest I have only rarely used the Security Bulletin System.

Mostly I read sites like this one listening for cries of anguish from others who have installed updates, do my own “black box” testing (i.e., install the whole set of updates on a test system and see how they hang together), then choose when to install the updates on my own critical systems.

I think it’s not the best approach for users to try to mix and match individual updates. As a career software engineer I understand why Microsoft wants to create “cumulative” updates, especially in an environment where they no longer have a lot of people paid to mix and match them and test the results. There are actual technical reasons that something as complex as an operating system needs to all be tested together as a working system. My main complaint is their insistence that the updating happen on their schedule, rather than mine, but at the deep geek level it’s still completely controllable.

-Noel

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No. It is a mess. Trying to track down exactly what KB patches I want is frustrating and this is just the first month. I am currently group B but pretty soon I will get so discouraged I’ll switch our four home computers running Windows 7 to group W.

Rather than simply taking everything MS wants to dish out, I’ll stop doing any patching. I make images so if the computers get malware, I’ll restore an image. That seems to be easier than trying to go through the patch maze and figure out what is/are Security Only bundles for the current month.

We also have two Android tablets so I can switch to them for surfing.

Got coffee?

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Cybertooth

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Lots of reports around the internet, showing that the response to their feedback request was not necessarily what Microsoft wanted to hear, like:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/users-tell-microsoft-to-scrap-pain-in-butt-security-update-guide-bring-back-old-bulletins/

Customers have lambasted Microsoft over its new searchable Security Update Guide

 
Also on http://www.computerworld.com

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hey woody.

Susan Bradley has made a response about the “demise” of the MS Security Bulletin system. Read about it here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/security/en-US/48734820-7c6a-4f1d-868e-41354a166e69/the-new-portal-doesnt-help-to-consisely-recap-what-patches-we-need-to-make-decisions-on

And more follow up articles on its demise from ComputerWorld & TechEye:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3192069/security/customers-roast-microsoft-over-security-bulletins-demise.html
http://www.techeye.net/news/microsoft-retires-security-bulletins

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There have been some noticeable changes in the Security Update Guide. The post Get Started with Security Update Guide – new portal for security updates is somewhat out of date. Also, update information from farther back is now present.

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