Did they fix that SSD/TRIM bug?

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[AlphaCharlie]

OK, my brain is not too sure about this, but a memory was triggered today by a conversation I was having with another old geek about SSD and HDD.

In August or September (or so), I thought I read that the monthly update of Win 10 had a bug which was causing excessive wear on SSDs by making them defrag or trim too often.  AND, I think I went and changed some setting to turn that off; but I cannot find my notes, so I am not sure what I did.

So now we are starting November, and my main PC is on version 1909 Build 18363.1082

Was that SSD bug ever fixed in a subsequent update?

I see this confusing info on my PC today:

Are these settings indicating that my Win10 is maintaining the disk correctly, or not?  My one SSD is divided into the C,D,E partitions.

Thanks for any clarification!

 

 

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If my memory serves me, you NEVER defrag a SSD.

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AlphaCharlie, GoneToPlaid

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You should let the Windows optimization run on its own schedule as SSDs do need optimization. This is generally just running a TRIM operation but sometimes a defrag too.

See the Scheduled Task section of this Microsoft support document – Defrag.

Also, see this old but still relevant discussion – The real and complete story – Does Windows defragment your SSD?.

NOTE: IIRC, the SSD bug was fixed in the September 2020 cumulative update for the 2004 (2020 H1, May 2020) release.

--Joe

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I agree, except perhaps once in a blue moon. Every defrag operation on a SSD theoretically shortens the drive’s life expectancy. I don’t have any SSDs. Yet if I did, I likely would defrag them perhaps only once every six months to once a year.

I take the same approach to all of my spinning hard drives. More importantly, I only perform defragmentation after having run Speccy to make sure that the drive’s S.M.A.R.T. is not reporting any unreadable and/or reallocated sectors, and after having run Scandisk in order to make sure that the drive doesn’t have any apparent issues, and after having either performed a full backup or after having performed a differential or incremental backup. I do not use the built-in Windows defrag utility. Instead, I use a third party defrag utility.

The upshot is that I manually perform defragmentation approximately only every six months, and only after I have performed the above preliminary steps in order to make sure that the hard drive is in a state which should be safe for defragmentation.

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AlphaCharlie

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Windows 10 1909 (I am now on 2004). Optimize runs ‘retrim’.

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AlphaCharlie

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SSDs do not have short lives and you do not need to restrict writes.

SSD Life – real world tests

cheers, Paul

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AlphaCharlie, BATcher

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Well, I appreciate all the comments here so far, but I do not see the solution to my perceived problem.   I understand that one does not need to defrag like we used to do with HDD, so no need to explain that any more.

I have a Crucial MX500 SSD divided into the C,D,E, and system partitions as seen in my original post.

Win 10 Optimize Drives reports “Optimization not available”
the Analyze button and the Optimize button are grayed out.

I would like to know what are the steps to make those buttons available, so that I can see the optimization status of the drive.

Thank you.

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https://www.ghacks.net/2019/04/01/fix-optimization-not-available-in-optimize-drives-in-windows/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/when-i-try-to-optimize-drives-i-get-optimization/20a45c49-a774-42b1-8317-20ef7799b6ad

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