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    It seems that Cox Communications has frozen their email system. Copied the following off their website today: “As of August 15, 2019, Cox no longer offers the ability for new and existing Cox Internet customers to create new Cox Email accounts.”

    Did some searching around, found this web item at: https://www.edhat.com/news/cox-announces-cutback-of-email-service

    Anyway, as cox customer, figure that I had better  start looking for a new email provider.

    I do use Outlook, so what ever I look at has to support that product. I’ve checked out protonmail, find that interesting to say the least.

    Any suggestions?

    Tom

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    • #1953502

      😀 Protonmail[.]com is good and secure, Question is: do you think that a combination with Microsoft Outlook keeps it that secure?

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      • #1953529

        Protonmail[.]com is good and secure,

        That depends on what angle you look at “good and secure”, I suspect. I’m aware of a very high rate of spam use of protonmail email accounts, which have them rated as suspicious in a lot of circles…
        🙂

        • #1953553

          Believe what you like, here-say …. When one is a “clean” surfer spam comes seldom…. In my accounts it is very very seldom.

          Microsoft Google Amazon and other dataslurpers grabbers are a much greater issue….

           

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          • This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Fred.
          • #1953556

            Fred: “When one is a “clean” surfer spam comes seldom…. ”

            There is no much one can do to protect oneself from spam coming in because the PC of someone one has corresponded with has been infected with malware that  those who put it there use to broadcast spam, probably conveying the same malware, to all those in the email client’s address book. I know, because I have been receiving persistently two sets of spam messages: one is from Greece of all places (or at least they are in Greek) the other is about some outfit that promotes outdoor activities (I think, because I’ve never opened their mails, that usually show up in the “Junk” folder and I delete right away, same as the Greek ones). Yet they keep coming….

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #1953596

              So, use several email accounts. For serious contacts , for enlisting sites, for chitchat etc…. Beware to whom you give what address to respond

              Various providers do a whole lot to handle the spammers, like Gmail and Proton.  In my country f.i. Ziggo and Vodafone are the worst mailfilters one can think of.

              SpamAssassin and Spamcop can be of great help to fight the badguys

               

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          • #1953653

            My point wasn’t about them RECEIVING spam, but as the senders of…
            at a far higher rate than the likes of other email services
            🙂

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    • #1954526

      Personally, I think it’s better not to get an email address from your internet service provider (ISP). If you ever change ISPs, you will have to change to a new email address.

      It’s better to get a permanent email address that isn’t connected to some other service that you have; in that way, you’ll never have to change it.

      My sister has had to change her email address two times for this reason. I had to change mine once. So far, she hasn’t obtained a “permanent” email address, so she may end up having to change it again; I got my own domain and hosted it with Dotster, which means that if I ever want to change to someone else, I can take my email address with me, thereby keeping my same email address; I’m not stuck with Dotster.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
      • #1954570

        That’s quite right, so look for privacy reasons for an emailaddress in Switserland, Germany, Sweden or Norway…. There are the privacy laws for individuals very strickt and most secure, included for from start-user to end-user encrypted emails

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        • #1954818

          I’ve considered going with Startmail for that very reason – they are in the Netherlands.

          Group "L" (Linux Mint)
          with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
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    • #1954897

      I’ve considered going with Startmail for that very reason – they are in the Netherlands.

      Yes Startmail.com in NL is good,
      hosted by startpage.com  (this search-engine is comparible for privacy matters with duckduckgo.com). Leading people there are working for bitsoffreedom.nl aswell.

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    • #1955220

      Written from a United States point of reference. These overseas services are sure to be extremely secure with internal handling. Their local laws will further protect European clients. When using their services from the US, if ultimate privacy is your requirement, consider the path your data must take to get to and from those secure servers. VPN may be a step in the right direction. The traffic will still be subject to international crossings, and whatever that may entail.

      Some international companies will use domestic (US) servers for US clients to simplify the arrangement. That may not be immediately clear, and should be looked into closely. GMX is one mail service that fits this description. Sorry that I do not know Startmail policy for US customers.

    • #1955561

      Some international companies will use domestic (US) servers for US clients to simplify the arrangement. That may not be immediately clear, and should be looked into closely.

      You are right Anonymous, mostly. Use VPN always. Beware of the USA Patriot Act!

      For instance the Dutch (sorry to say), the French, the English, the Australian are filtering it all, like the USA.

      Intenet freedom has been thrown away. Freedom of speech and write, does it exist? Where?

      I am not sure if gmx.net (German) is the same as gmx.com; I think not.

      I am curious about how other people care for this.

       

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      • #1959410

        “I am not sure if gmx.net (German) is the same as gmx.com; I think not.”

        It is. United Internet AG. But it was an offhand example that came to mind for a multinational corporation and their practices. I did not intend it as a suggestion for trdcsfd, the OP. Just an example of country of ownership not matching location of operations. Car makers do it too, as another easy to point at example. But they won’t help with email either. I strove for an example closer to the topic.

    • #1957036

      If you are paying for an email provider try Fastmail. https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/

      cheers, Paul

    • #1959373

      First, I would like to thank everyone for their replies to my original post, I’m getting a (needed) education.

      As far as the Cox email, looks like no major news outlet has picked up on what they are doing. Would be nice to shine a little light on Cox on this action.

      Spam: I’ve never really had a problem with spam, a little gets through. I usually either auto flag it as junk, or write an Outlook rule to delete on receipt.

      I already use Startpage as my home page with my browsers, quite familiar with it. Startpage can be a little quirky at times, especially in the advanced search.

      As to paying for an email service, I don’t see any way around it if I want imap support. All the free versions are basically web based, and I want to keep Outlook.

      In addition to the email change to think about, I also have four Win7 machines I have to figure out what to do with. I bought a used Win10 HP laptop, been playing with that a little bit, but Win10 doesn’t do much to excite me. I’m even thinking about an Apple desktop.

      I’ve got an IBM XT on the shelf, the thought of getting that running again is an interesting challenge.

      Tom

    • #1962220

      These overseas services are sure to be extremely secure with internal handling. Their local laws will further protect European clients. When using their services from the US, if ultimate privacy is your requirement, consider the path your data must take to get to and from those secure servers.

      Well, that’s true for some, but for others…

      As to paying for an email service, I don’t see any way around it if I want imap support. All the free versions are basically web based,

      Well yes, I count at least 6 providers who offer free accounts with IMAP… but none are very good for privacy. Two of these (Yandex and mail.ru) are in Russia.

      Still think GMX is probably the least bad in this category but that may not be much.

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