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INTEL By Will Fastie Once again, new naming conventions make understanding Intel’s processors confusing. Late last week, Intel announced a series of n
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Any indication from Intel as to whether it’s the end of the line with their 14th gen CPUs, or will the Core Ultra series be offerred in parallel with the non-NPU Core processors?

Was there mention of the price difference between, say, a Core i7-14700K and an Ultra 7 265K?

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rbailin wrote:

Any indication from Intel as to whether it’s the end of the line with their 14th gen CPUs, or will the Core Ultra series be offerred in parallel with the non-NPU Core processors?

Was there mention of the price difference between, say, a Core i7-14700K and an Ultra 7 265K?

Intel won’t tell, as is the case previously. But in previous cases, the new CPUs were sold along the old CPUs, at least for a while.

You can still buy (some of) the 12th generation CPUs right now, for example. Even if Intel stopped producing the older CPUs, distributors and retailers will need to clear the old stock, and it will take a while.

At my local store I can still get the Core i3 12100, Core i3 12100F, Core i5 12400 and Core i5 12400F right now, if I want to. I expect this to continue here until the stock runs out.

In my opinion, since Intel has not recalled the 14th generation CPUs (that I consider unreliable), they will continue to be sold until stock runs out.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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rbailin wrote:

end of the line

Intel did not say, but the presentations made comparisons between the S-series and 14th-gen. Those showed the S-series matching or exceeding 14th-gen. That just tells us what Intel will be pushing; it will be up to OEMs and motherboard makers to choose. However, ASUS already has motherboards with the Z890 chipset and the LGA 1851 socket, so the movement is in that direction.

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Was there mention of the price difference

Intel usually downplays pricing because it is primarily selling to OEMs in bulk, not single items. However, visit the processors section in Intel Ark, look up the CPUs of interest, and it will have some indication of price. For the Ultra 7 265K, it shows a “Recommended Customer Price” of roughly $400. You can also check sellers such as Newegg, which is listing that chip for $419. The Ark shows the price of the i7-14700K as roughly $414.

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Very nice article, Will — not too short and not too long.

It cleared up my confusion over Intel’s (frankly stupid) new naming convention. I’m sure they have their reasons for the change, but if so, they make sense only internally at Intel. All they’ve done for customers is to muddy the waters of their own marketing — i.e., shot themselves in the foot at a point in their history that is already looking dreary for them. <sigh, it never ends>

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milleron wrote:

Intel’s (frankly stupid) new naming convention

Yeah, I hear you. We get into a comfort zone that helps us figure out where an Intel part fits in, and then that is rendered moot.

However, let’s be as fair as we can about this. Ultra represents an architectural change. If Ultra had simply been named 15th-gen (which some reports are calling it anyway), our natural reaction would have been to think that these chips were simply the next step up in the current architecture. That is definitely not the case, as I point out.

The one thing that surprised me a bit was the retention of the 5, 7, and 9 designations. Those numbers communicate nothing. Why not just call the Ultra 7 256K an “Ultra 256K?”

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