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Google and Dell sittin’ on a tree…. Big news from both Google and Dell. Tom Warren at The Verge puts it this way: Google is launching new Chromebook
[See the full post at: ChromeOS Enterprise]

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The real question is: will these have expiration dates, like all other Chromebooks in existence? The article doesn’t say, probably because Google doesn’t want these to be DOA.

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OscarCP, WildBill

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$700-800 for a browser laptop ?

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Those are medium spec bargain basement prices, you can set your own wallet aflame as there are more expensive Chromebooks.

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I thought Microsoft already had Windows S as a “lite OS.”
Are we going to have ANOTHER Windows RT (LiteOS) that dies on the vine?

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Yes it all smacks of caused by MS’s Marketing hands with RT and S getting rebranded as Lite and some cloud integration for MS to try and out Google the Google ChromeOS cloud ecosystem business model.

So there was that Metro to Modern to UWP and the many marketing faces of TIFKAM that tiles MS’s PC/Laptop OS products to this day with Light being some shotgun marriage of Windows S and RT with all the cloudy parts thrown in.

Google’s got the infrastructure and so does Microsoft, Amazon as well as far as  server/cloud resources is concerned. But Google has its search and so does MS and some ad pushing revenues as well. So that’s Google now trying for a while to get all up into MS’s enterprise business and Cloud gaming as well against MS’s Console ecosystem.

So now Dell is the best friend that Google’s money can buy and the Chrome laptop will be very likely powered by some Intel based offering.

 

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Woody quipped:

It isn’t clear to me at all how LiteOS will be better.

To which I respond:

Since when in the recent past has anything Microsoft done been clear to you, or anyone for that matter 🙂

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Last years news of the Redhat aquisition by big blue sparked something at Google/Dell?

Windows - commercial by definition and now function...

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The pic of Slim Pickins whooping his last “YEE-HAW” isn’t Google & Dell dropping the bomb on Micro$oft… it’s M$ going down for the Last Time. Still too early to tell who wins… but Microsoft banking on “LiteOS”, Win10 in S Mode, the Chromium-based Edge browser, & Microsoft/Office 365? Keep riding that nuke, Nadella… all the way Down to the Cloud!

Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
Wild Bill Rides Again...

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? says:

looks like “Wing Attack Plan R,” sir!

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If these devices support the new dual-boot feature that’s been in the works I could see it being a real big seller.

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I like how they keep suggesting that being maximally cloud-based is “modern.”  Windows 10s is “more of a locked down version of Windows than anything truly modern.” [emphasis added].   Whereas ChromeOS, a locked-down version of Linux, is exactly what?

Depending on the cloud is “modern” ’cause old concepts like not being dependent on external corporations that don’t especially care about your needs and can hold your data for ransom is so, you know, awesome, compared to the old way of being in control of your own hardware, information, and all of that other stuff (destiny?).

Of course, those corporations that others will be dependent upon think this is a great idea, for reasons that are too obvious to state, but can we collectively agree to back up the hype wagon for a moment and think seriously about what’s the most advantageous to ourselves first and worry about meeting our paradigm-shifting, outside of the box quota of marketing buzzwords later?

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Ascaris wrote:

Windows 10s is “more of a locked down version of Windows than anything truly modern.” [emphasis added]. Whereas ChromeOS, a locked-down version of Linux, is exactly what?

Ancient? (Conceived 50 years ago.)

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Well, Linux Is Not UniX, but yeah, you’d have to ask them how locked down Windows 10 is somehow less modern than locked down Linux in the form of ChromeOS.

 

 

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Dennis Ritchie, one of the original creators of Unix, expressed his opinion that Unix-like systems such as Linux are de facto Unix systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like#Categories

“Linux seems to be the among the healthiest of the direct Unix derivatives,”
http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July1999/article79.html

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That statement from Wikipedia, that Ritchie considers Linux to be “de facto UNIX”, is not found in the source cited by whomever wrote that bit for Wikipedia.

A UNIX system is one that has been certified to meet the Single Unix Specification, which Linux has not.  Linux is not eligible to use the “UNIX” trademark because of this.  It’s objectively not UNIX, but UNIX-like.  It is meant to behave like UNIX (as far as being POSIX compliant), but if it’s not certified by the people who own and define the trademark “UNIX”,  it is not UNIX.

And no, Linux doesn’t actually mean “Linux is not Unix.”  With so many recursive acronyms in the Linux universe, like GNU meaning “GNU is not UNIX” (which is a real one), it’s been joked about as a backronym.  The actual topic here is about ChromeOS, which somehow is being bandied about as “modern” because it does so little (I wish I was making that up!), a concept that I think you probably find as preposterous as I do.  I know there is an unfortunate trend these days in lopping features off of software and calling it an improvement, but does that truly make it modern?

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Ascaris wrote:

That statement from Wikipedia, that Ritchie considers Linux to be “de facto UNIX”, is not found in the source cited by whomever wrote that bit for Wikipedia.

That’s why I also included the actual (direct derivative) quote.

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“LiteOS” (or, as I suspect, “BingOS”!) is a dead end for Microsoft on the desktop.

1)There’s no chance to establish a monopoly with a web based OS, there are plenty of those out there in Linux Land. If you’re going to use Citrix/HTML 5, well, those don’t care what you’re running on, the stuff is all on the back end.

2) I doubt they can maintain backwards compatibility going to a web based OS, which is the main advantage Windows has right now.

3) It would fit in with MS going to the cloud, and getting away from the desktop. The Desktop for MS isn’t profitable at this point, and I could see them using a Bing enabled front end on Windows Core OS, which is likely the future replacement for Windows 10.

 

 

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as businesses increasingly look to modernize their fleet of devices, there’s an opportunity for competitors to challenge Windows.

This is nothing new; this has been the case since the beginning of computers.

Chromebooks have traditionally fared well in education but have had little traction in businesses that are used to relying on Windows. Google’s new focus is a significant change, but it doesn’t mean the company is suddenly going to attract business customers overnight.

Businesses are a whole lot more concerned than schools with security and privacy. Also, Google gives away a lot of their stuff, which appeals to cash-strapped schools; businesses, on the other hand, have more money available to spend on whatever is going to work for them. Therefore, I predict that Google won’t make much headway with medium-sized and large businesses, but they might with small businesses. For this reason, I believe that Windows 10 S would be a winner with small and medium sized businesses, if it is done right, i.e., with security in mind.

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