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.The answer is: I can’t test for sure to give you an answer. So first an apology. You aren’t getting a video tonight. I was all set to demonstrate wit
[See the full post at: Can you still have a Local account?]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
It’s still under the old build where I know for sure that you can unhook the Internet right as you get to that Microsoft account spot and you can get around it.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Susan,
You can download an Aria2 batch file from the UUP dump site that will create an ISO of the Win11 Pro preview build 22577 directly from Microsoft’s official servers.
Download/extract the zip file, and run uup_download_windows.cmd (an Aria2 batch file) to create the ISO.
BTW, the site allows you to download Aria2 batch files to create an ISO of pretty much any version of Win10 or Win11 all the way back to Win10 1909!
April 5, 2017 (earliest) – EOL March 9, 2021
Use this Feedback Hub link – https://aka.ms/AAfrn4x.
Remember, Microsoft really does pay attention to the Feedback Hub.
--Joe
Use this Feedback Hub link – https://aka.ms/AAfrn4x. Remember, Microsoft really does pay attention to the Feedback Hub.
I used the Feedback Hub to convey my opinion.
But instead of your link, I used the link provided in Windows 10’s
Start > PC Settings > Accounts > Your info > Give Feedback.
Remember, Microsoft really does pay attention to the Feedback Hub.
and the moon really IS made of green cheese…
If enough of us complain – and remember this time it’s impacting IT pros.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I only have a local account on my Win10 system. When I tried to use the Feedback Hub in the past it hassled me for a Microsoft Account so I muttered numerous expletives in the privacy of my home and moved on.
They’ll do anything to sink their hooks as deeply as possible into users’ systems!
You may want to edit your post — it’s quoting me, not Susan Bradley. 
I was referring to an instance where a different person had reported an issue and asked for others to chime in — a feedback hub link to their report was available. However, when I attempted to add my 2 cents to the reported issue the feedback hub refused access since I didn’t provide a Microsoft Account.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has patched it in build 22557 and later. This means it will not work anymore. In fact, there are new screens including “Oops, you’ve lost internet connection” and “Let’s connect you to a network – Looks like you’ve lost your internet connection which you’ll need to continue setting up your device”.
Not sure where the build number 22577 being talked about is from. The latest Insider build is 22557.
Here’s a visual step by step on how to install Windows 11 Pro with a private local account – hint it’s buried deeply now!! No tricks with network connection needed.
Install and OOBE sequence:
With no network you get a warning:
NIC connected, lets go!
Select Work or School:
(to be continued)
~ Group "Weekend" ~
(continued)
Looks like we are being highly encouraged to use a MSA for a Work or School selection.
Click Sign in options on this screen!
On the Sign in Options screen, select Domain Join. Don’t worry if you are not on a AD network here, it will not force you to use an actual corporate domain account!
Give the account a name, this will be a local private account.
. . . and create a password
(to be continued)
~ Group "Weekend" ~
(continued)
And finally create three security questions and answers (just like before when creating local admin accounts on a new install)
Following that are the typical privacy settings screens . . .
And finally a login screen:
And here’s the new install with a local admin account ONLY, no MSA required.
The only change is that they buried the option one level deeper than before. Used to be if you selected Work or School the option to create a local account was on the following screen. Now it’s one layer deeper under Domain Join (even though you don’t have to join a domain.)
~ Group "Weekend" ~
Some notes on the above to think about:
All of that was for Windows 11 Pro on the latest advanced Preview version. If, during the OOBE account pages one selects Personal instead of Work or School: I cannot find a way to create a local account. That used to be there, although it was a very small inobtrusive link on the page asking for an MSA.
Regarding Windows 11 Home on the same Preview version: without resorting to “hackery methods,” there appears to be no method I can find that still allows a local account to be created. Even the old trick of unplugging the ethernet cord or turning off Wi-Fi at the right time does not appear to work reliably.
~ Group "Weekend" ~
On the “Pro” edition, you don’t need the taskkill workaround at all, not at this time for any release nor preview version. Nor do you need to unplug the network at any time.
Just follow the steps I outlined above: Select the Work or School option, then Sign-on Options, then Domain Join instead (even if you don’t have a Domain Controller.) The following pages will step you through creating the first account as administrator for a brand new install.
Be certain to not fill in the fields asking for a Microsoft (email) Account. (MSA)
There is NO functional difference in Windows 11 Pro based on whether you select ‘Personal” versus “Work or School” during the first time setup. Those labels are only used to tell the setup wizard which way to go in further steps.
Additionally, should you then wish to add other accounts, including local only or MSA accounts – you can do that from the Settings > Accounts page.
~ Group "Weekend" ~
There is of course, a ton of difference in how the add-ons for Windows work (Sync, OneDrive, Teams, Email, etc) if you run as a local account versus a MSA account. That’s a debate for another thread (and believe me, it’s being debated!) But that has nothing to do with the Setup question you asked about.
~ Group "Weekend" ~
It’s all good! I only spent five minutes panicking that my normal dev source didn’t show that build! (yet?)
~ Group "Weekend" ~
Use this Feedback Hub link
I even had problems with that link on my Windows 10 Pro computer but I finally got a small feedback window and told Microsoft that after over 22 years of Windows usage that I will move to Apple for computer hardware (already have iPhone XR and Apple Watch ver. 5) if Microsoft removes the option to have a local account when setting up a new computer. As I told them, that is even though I have THREE Microsoft accounts but I use them when I need to (not because I am forced to) and my computers have always been set up with Local Accounts.
It was interesting that Feedback showed me what it thought were similar posts but NOT ONE of them had anything to do with this issue!
Sysprep presets and answer files definitely still work, including the options to skip account creation screens during the OOBE and use a pre-defined local account. I’ve tested this on Windows 11 Pro preview v 22557 with success. Not tested Home edition, although in theory it should still work.
~ Group "Weekend" ~
Very true, it’s also a ton of extra work for a single fresh install.
~ Group "Weekend" ~
only one fresh install is necessary if a good backup/image regime is adhered to, put in what you want out of it
I am sure that an autounattend.xml that only does a “user”/”password” creation will be broadly available on forums with a hint “just drag this into your installation pendrive”
I’m kinda expecting rufus and others to circumvent this during iso burning to a usb stick or DVDR
I have seen at least two computers with no option to avoid connecting to the network. I found a method to bypass the microsoft account, but it requires carefulness. Of course, you can always remove the microsoft account later in settings and use a local account.
* If you are forced to connect to a network without an option to connect later in the lower left corner, then (sigh) join a network).
* once it updates you will be asked to log into microsoft. Either disconnect the Ethernet cable now or: Hold down the shift and F10 keys at the same time to reach a command prompt.
* Type in netsh interface show interfaces to see the network (ethernet or wifi).
Type in: Netsh interface set interface Wi-Fi disabled
* Click the back button on the upper left and it will try, then return to the User setup and give you the option to create a local user account.
Once you set it up, you can re-enable the network interface afterwards. You will know if you forget .
It would appear that I have found a new workaround.
The work around is as follows:
Here is the link to learn more: https://www.neowin.net/news/here039s-how-you-can-setup-your-windows-11-device-without-an-internet-connection/
On Windows 11, version 21H2, the steps work on Windows 11 Home. You don’t need to follow the steps on Pro.
I’m sure it may work in Windows 11 build 22557 and later for Home and Pro editions, but I haven’t tested it out yet, so I can’t guarantee if it works or not. If you guys have a virtual machine to test it out, please do so. I would really appreciate it if it works or not.
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