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    #130125

    I’m temporarily removing the ban on political commentary, but only on this comment thread, in honor of Brad’s decision.The ban on swearing and religious talk remains intact.

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    • #130131

      Not a big political or ideological person. I don’t get caught up in the divisiveness of a minority of people who are extreme in views. Most America goes on with life without concern of statues or bathroom types or anything else. Other then making a living, paying bills, taxes, and providing for a family. I also believe having a voice is more important then walking away in protest. You can only walk away once and make your point. A voice can carry on over time injecting your viewpoint. Its why we have a Congress full of people who give their voice power. How would it be if you were a congressional representative and you lost one vote so you just walked away? I think Brad Smith made a mistake by leaving and note providing a voice, even if he felt it was not heard.

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      • #130133

        It’s a tough decision, but so many people have reached the point of “Enough already.”

        You’re absolutely right about most people just carrying on, in spite of the political situation. It’s easy to be engulfed by the hopelessness of it all.

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    • #130145

      No matter who you are, he was in a pretty hopeless position as the tech industry’s voice (both corporate and consumer) as been falling on deaf ears in Congress for the past 20 years.

      Fortran, C++, R, Python, Java, Matlab, HTML, CSS, etc.... coding is fun!
      A weatherman that can code

    • #130152

      Bannon said he advised the President to tax those Silicon Valley Liberals off the planet. It had nothing to do with their businesses, it was all about these companies having lefty leanings. Trump called for a boycott of Apple during his campaign and when social media got under his craw he believed that he could call upon Bill Gates to turn off the internet. Ignorance, belligerence and power is a toxic mix.

      Bannon has gone, but not his ideas. The advisory board(s) have finally got wise to the ruse that they got sucked into. They were had. Unfortunately there is still a rogue elephant in the room and he is in a rage, thrashing around destroying everything in his path.

    • #130157

      I do hope that America is able to find its way back from the abyss of global embarrassment it stands in currently. As an outsider it saddens me to see a once proud nation become such a laughing stock the world over. The departure of a number of important advisers to the administration is just one symptom of the present malaise. It’s difficult to see where it will all end but it doesn’t look good at the moment, that’s for sure, and ordinary citizens who think it doesn’t affect them won’t be able to ignore it for too much longer.

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    • #130159

      Business needs to stay out of politics and taking sides on issues. Worry about your product and shareholder values for those who have invested.

      With the country divided approximately 50/50 ANY issue is a potential source for disagreement.

      They need to stop fearing boycotts from those they don’t appease with like minded thought as that has 50% support.

      They didn’s walk on OBama and he had plenty of his problematic issues.

    • #130164

      Woody, the next time you are thinking about making an exception to the “no politics” rule, take a deep breadth and exhale slowly. Then don’t do it!

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    • #130174

      What?! No swearing allowed!?

      %#¤&#¤!

      But seriously… watching the US political scene from the other side of the pond is a depressing sight…

      Waiting for mr. Muller and the two grand jurys to finish the job… the sooner the better this farce is finished.

      As I see it, mr. Pence will fall too, so the future looks bright, but who’s next in line to take over then? Mr. Ryan?

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    • #130182

      The twentieth century has been called “The American Century.”

      That sun has now completely set — and with each passing day since 20 January 2017, it has become increasingly unlikely that it will rise again. For we are racing at an ever-increasing speed toward that point beyond which the answer to the question, “What do you think of the United States of America?” will be, “It was a good idea.”

      Sic transit gloria mundi
      (or at least that of the United States of America).

    • #130183

      “One aim of the physical sciences has been to give an exact picture of the material world. One achievement of physics in the twentieth century has been to prove that that aim is unattainable.

      There is no absolute knowledge and those who claim it, whether they are scientist or dogmatist, open the door to tragedy. All knowledge, all information is imperfect. We have to treat it with humility.

      Science is a very human form of knowledge. We are always at the brink of the known; we always feel forward for what is to be hoped. Every judgment in science stands on the edge of error and is personal. Science is a tribute to what we can know although we are fallible.”

      — Jacob Bronowski, “The Ascent of Man” (1973): Episode 11, “Knowledge or Certainty.”

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    • #130206

      “Business needs to stay out of politics and taking sides on issues. Worry about your product and shareholder values for those who have invested.

      With the country divided approximately 50/50 ANY issue is a potential source for disagreement.

      They need to stop fearing boycotts from those they don’t appease with like minded thought as that has 50% support.

      They didn’s walk on OBama and he had plenty of his problematic issues.”

       

      Thank you for giving voice to those of us who are sick and tired of being falsely labeled.

    • #130224

      And why no mention or stern words for Anitfa on the alt-left?

      CNN video for those unfamiliar with this side of the Dems which seldom get air time with the current news media anti-republican agenda.

      http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/08/18/lead-ganim-antifa-protest-jake-tapper.cnn

      • #130251

        Rule 11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
        = the liberals’/leftwingers’ political playbook by Saul Alinsky.

        Maybe, the liberal leftwing counter-protesters at Charlottsville purposely attacked and provoked the neo-Nazi to later ram his car into the liberals/leftwingers, in order to evoke public sympathy for the liberals, as per the liberals’ playbook.
        … I’m not trying to justify the neo-Nazi’s copycat terrorist act. It is wrong/a crime.

        Who knows. Maybe the neo-Nazis will begin to become like Muslim terrorists because of the attacks and provocations from the liberals/leftwingers, eg the Daily Stormer website being shutdown/censored by liberal tech companies. Remember how Obama and the liberal Democrats used the IRS to shutdown non-profit conservative websites by not granting them tax-exempt status?
        https://dstormer6em3i4km.onion.cab

        • #130282

          “Maybe, the liberal leftwing counter-protesters at Charlottsville purposely attacked and provoked the neo-Nazi to later ram his car into the liberals/leftwingers, in order to evoke public sympathy for the liberals, as per the liberals’ playbook.”

          Would this be the same way that a wife provokes her abusive husband to murder her by talking back when he clearly told her to shut up? Or perhaps it’s more like the young girl in a revealing dress who provokes a guy to beat and rape her, by rudely spurning his advances? Maybe it’s really more like the young man who got shot on the freeway because of a gesture to the pickup driver who cut him off?

          “… I’m not trying to justify the neo-Nazi’s copycat terrorist act.”

          But you absolutely are trying to justify it. And it’s the most horrific type of insidious, disgusting, reprehensible false equivalency imaginable. No one can “make” someone murder someone else. People either possesses that level of hate and disregard for others, coupled with poor impulse control, or they don’t.

          If you can’t control yourself when someone comes face-to-face with you to express a different viewpoint or if you can’t tolerate women, racial/ethnic minorities, and gays and lesbians who don’t know their place, then just stay home. Because we’re everywhere.

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        • #130308

          @ Anonymous #130282

          United States

          The fighting words doctrine, in United States constitutional law, is a limitation to freedom of speech as protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

          In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9–0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. It held that “insulting or ‘fighting words’, those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace” are among the “well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem.”

          .
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
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          So, certain provocative speech and actions are illegal and punishable under US Law, ie the liberal counter-protesters and the other protesters might have broken US Law.

          In the first place, why did the liberals mount the counter-protest in Charlottesville against the “Unite the Right” rally.? Seems like the liberals were itching for a fight or confrontation.
          … The US local authorities might have also been negligent to allow such a scenario.

        • #130347

          Leaks show Unite the Right attendees discussing hitting protesters with cars before Charlottesvillehttps://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/22/1691013/-Leaks-show-Unite-the-Right-attendees-discussing-hitting-protesters-with-cars-before-Charlottesville (which contains additional links).

          • #130352

            Daily Kos is a group blog and internet forum focused on liberal American politics.
            In 2007, its parent company, Kos Media, LLC, began a fellowship program to help fund a new generation of progressive activists.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Kos

            dailykos = liberal propaganda & fake news.

    • #130230

      It doesn’t matter which side of the aisle one finds most appealing. We desperately need term limits for all of them — Federal, State and local!

      If politicians were more concerned with the quality of governance rather than getting re-elected it might actually be possible to effectively address the important issues of the day.

      • #130232

        we have term limits, they’re known as term limits. please don’t presume  you know better than I whom to vote for.

        • #130233

          the second reference to term limits should have said elections.

        • #130238

          “we have term limits, they’re known as term limits. please don’t presume you know better than I whom to vote for.”

          My reference to term limits did not target any particular candidate, political party or specific elected official nor did it advocate for one over another.  So I don’t understand the defensive nature of this response.  My comment was not presumptive in any manner.

    • #130237

      Smith is between a rock and and very hard place. Throwing away all the outreach Bill Gates did was very stupid. But his Boss and Microsoft’s board wanted to send a message. Not sure if they understood the message they sent, was the one received.  Not sure if it really matters, events are moving  so fast now the only things these companies can so hang on and ride it out.

      • #130241

        It wasn’t received as intended. This move looks childish to many with strong ax to grind. It smells of Silly Valley pouting because Trump doesn’t view them as the saviors of mankind (they aren’t) and what they want is not necessarily in the best interests of the country as a whole.

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        • #130255

          NO comment. I have an opinion, but it is mine and I will keep it that way because everyone has an opinion. They are great for sharing/discussing with people in your life (of like mind or not) because they know you and either understand, or give you the benefit of the doubt.

          Everybody has to believe in something (even if it’s nihilism), and so I believe I’ll pour myself a wee dram of scotch.

          jimzdoats

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          • #130270

            May I join you, please? (A single malt; neat, with a water back.)

            • #130367

              Och, aye laddie. Will The Macallan Cask Strength do? Ah couldna find the Old Sheep Dip.

              jimzdoats

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            • #130377

              Aye, The Macallan Cask Strength will do quite nicely, thank ye. If for some reason it proves too hard to come by, then The Balvenie DoubleWood should more than suffice. Why, if need be, I’m sure that we could even settle for The Glenlivet (20 y.o., of course).

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            • #130452

              Ah do hae a wee bit o th’ Balvenie, e’en if it were a Dufftown cask. Th’ fine lowland Scotch has worn a warm spot in me heart/gullet. As a Scot, the price has been a keen interest in me own investments. Used to be tha’ the Balvenie was a fine $30 bottle; now it’s gone into the Strathosphere at $50.

              I’m liking the local Rye Whiskies a whole lot more than afore. Try the Templeton at >$30; but be sure to try the Redemption Rye at Trader Joe’s for $27. It be a fine whisky fer the price.

              As fer The Macallan at any date, -ouch!

              jimzdoats

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            • #130457

              Aye, a good rye (though a world apart from the nectar of of the Scots) makes for an acceptably civilized end to a day. The one I first became acquainted with, lo those many years ago, was Old Overholt (and still the one I return to). For an altogether different experience, try a wee dram in a brandy snifter.

            • #130461

              Whiskey? Meet my cousin Jack… you can call him Mr. Daniels…. Lives just up the road. The Low Road, perhaps.

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            • #130465

              Good lord, boss, you’re still up over on the left coast still when some of us on the other side have already had our shuteye and are chompin’ at the bit to seize the day.

              Coffee… Yes, coffee is what I need.

              -Noel

            • #130493

              Old No. 7: “Charcoal mellowed, drop by drop.” I’m looking at the bottle now, over on the shelf (just looking; it may be five o’clock somewhere, but it’s still coffee time here in the Pacific Time Zone).

              (Incidentally, a snifter works well for Mr. Jack, too.)

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          • #130539

            Finally, with respect to Scotland, allow me to add that one of my heroes is James Clerk Maxwell, who once wrote, “If a body meet a body flying through the air; if a body hit a body, will it fly, and where? Every impact has its measure, though never a one have had I; yet all the lads, they measure me — or, at least, they try.”

            “Since Maxwell’s time, physical reality has been thought of as represented by continuous fields, and not capable of any mechanical interpretation. This change in the conception of reality is the most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton.” — A. Einstein

        • #130365

          This has building for a long time. I personally warned some of same Tech CEOs three years ago that they were playing with fire. This is what happens when you don’t know your industries history. These guys thought they could buy protection from the Obama administration in the form of campaign contributions. It’s like they don’t understand or read the Constitution or Bill of Rights of the United States of America. The United States took down Ma Bell, even thou it has been declared critical to the  National Security of the United States, and let us not forget about the Browser wars. Microsoft ended up in federal court before signing a consent decree. Death by a thousand cuts. Both Goggle and Facebook have huge assets. Too bad, the government of the United States of America assets are close to unlimited. Death by a thousand cuts, indeed.

    • #130280

      Companies didn’t leave the Obama administration because the Obama Administration didn’t refuse condemn white supremacists and Nazis. At some point, everyone has a line. Plus. when everyone is leaving, you have a bit of cover, similar to a strike.

      Given how little influence they actually had on Trump’s policies, it makes sense not to want to take the PR hit of being the company that stuck with Trump during this time.

      It does get frustrating when people try to equate Trump and Obama, or literally any other President. Trump is an authoritarian nationalist populace who apparently won’t even condemn white supremacy. He’s constantly at war with the free press. That alone should be enough to worry people: That’s fascism. The good thing is that he’s not good at it, because he acts like some misanthropic grandpa who only gets his news and politics from TV. And he has a huge temper problem. The bigger threat is that he’ll do something really really stupid.

      Point is, this isn’t politics as usual, so expecting the same responses that past presidents has does not make sense. No matter what problems you had with Obama, he believed in democracy and was mentally competent enough to have complex ideas. He deftly navigated racial tensions. No matter what problems you had with Bush, he was, at his core, a good guy who wanted to help people and cared about this country. No matter what problem you had with Bill Clinton, he was a smart dealmaker who realized the tensions in the South. Bush Sr. was just a brilliant man. And even if you think Reagan was unqualified, he at least listened to those on his staff who knew more than him. He genuinely cared. And I could go on.

      I applaud these guys for standing up against Trump. Maybe the only thing we can do is show that America doesn’t stand with him, to help minimize the damage he can do. A lot of power of the president is based on his ability to get people to work with him, and Trump can’t seem to do this. Nothing is thrown away because everyone after Trump is going to want to distance themselves from him–even Republicans (in Congress) see Trump as a liability now.

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    • #130313

      Math:  According to the Congressional Research Service, a non-partisan service of the US Congress, there were 225 million American citizens who were age 18 or older as of last November’s election day and not criminally convicted felons and therefore eligible to vote, if registered, in last year’s federal elections.  According to the official certified results in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, the Democrat party candidate got a little less than 66 million votes and the Republican party candidate got just shy of 63 million votes; and about 136.5 million people voted.  88.5 million people didn’t vote even though they were eligible to vote; but 25 million eligible voters weren’t even registered to vote for reasons of their own (it’s remarkable how many eligible voters won’t register to vote for personal legal reasons, such as outstanding warrants, failure to appear for jury duty, unpaid back taxes, alimony, child support or traffic tickets, etc.).  The math results are 29.3% voted for HRC, 28.5% voted for non of the above by staying home even though they were registered to vote, 28% voted for President Trump, just over 11% aren’t registered even though eligible to vote, and almost 3.2% voted for other candidates or write-ins.  So clearly no one can legitimately claim the support of the American people: there is no majority in America.  The Republicans won majorities in the Congress in the midterm elections of 2010 and 2014; but only 21% of the eligible voters voted for Republican candidates in those elections where voter turnout was down around 39%.  The reason why almost as many eligible American voters stay home and don’t vote for either party every Presidential election year is because they are tired of not having anyone to vote for and are tired of having to choose between the lesser of two evils.  About half of all Americans think the Democrat party has moved too far to the left and the Republican party has moved too far to the right; and neither thinks compromise and reconciliation are good ideas.  Unless one party or the other divorces itself from it’s activist wings and fringe elements, left or right, and decisively makes a play for the center and moderates, then a centrist third party is the only answer to save this country.

       

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      • #130318

        The popular vote analysis is interesting; however, missing from your Math is the result of the most important vote:  the Electoral College.

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      • #130323

        Indeed.

        From a plethora of articles one can easily find on-line, here is one from the Daily Mail (UK), 2017.08.17: Not all-white? Nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests are not liking what they findhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4799678/Nationalists-flocking-genetic-ancestry-tests.html .

        Those darned inconvenient truths… .

      • #130355

        @ … MrBrian & AJNorth … ,

        http://postimg.org/image/th61ufzbr/

        https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1092083/

        Seems, the White nationalist, Craig Cobb, did not have 14% Black DNA, ie 0% Black DNA from a 2nd DNA test done 2 years later in 2015.

        Seems like the liberal media like to concoct fake news against White nationalists.

        • #130360

          From Genetic study reveals surprising ancestry of many Americans:

          “In the United States, almost no one can trace their ancestry back to just one place. And for many, the past may hold some surprises, according to a new study. Researchers have found that a significant percentage of African-Americans, European Americans, and Latinos carry ancestry from outside their self-identified ethnicity. The average African-American genome, for example, is nearly a quarter European, and almost 4% of European Americans carry African ancestry.”

        • #130361

          From America is much more interracial than it thinks:

          “This chart belies the variation across US states, though. For instance, southern self-identified European-Americans have the highest concentration of African DNA. Of those living in South Carolina and Louisiana, one in 20 have at least 2% African ancestry. Lower that threshold to 1%, and it turns out that in many parts of the south, around one in 10 self-identified European-Americans have African DNA.”

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      • #130363

        President Trump won the electoral college vote by winning the popular vote in three states (Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania) by a combined total of about 75,000 votes out of over ten million votes cast in those three states.  He won Wisconsin by 0.75% of the votes cast, Michigan by 0.3%, and PA by 0.70%; and he also won North Carolina by only about 1.5% and Florida by just over 1.3% of the votes cast in those states.  The first three states have a combined electoral college vote total of 46 votes and the other two have 44 combined electoral college votes.  His percentage of victory in the first three was less than 1% in each and was less than 2% in each of the other two.  This is important because two different surveys have shown that about 2.5 million voters were Bernie Sanders supporters who voted for President Trump only to punish the DNC and defeat HRC for what they saw as robbing Bernie of the Democrat party nomination, even though they never supported Mr. Trump and didn’t favor him becoming President and had always in the past voted for whoever the Democrat nominee was.  They were just under 2% of the total votes cast nationwide, but likely more than that in normally Democrat states like Michigan and PA and Wisconsin.  They were “Bernie or bust” voters who were probably heavily influenced by the Russian meddling in last year’s campaign, especially the release of the information hacked from the DNC and the HRC campaign, as well as the fake news, propaganda and social media campaigns run by the Russian meddling operations.  All three cable news networks, including FNC, reported late on election day this 2% of voters reporting in exit polls (everyone uses the same exit polling data from a nationwide survey sample) that they voted for Mr. Trump even though they supported Senator Sanders and had always voted for the Democrats in the past.  A separate different survey conducted a week after the election revealed that 4% of President Trump’s 63 million votes (or about 2.5 million votes) were Bernie or Bust voters.  But yes, it’s true that you can lose the nationwide popular vote by millions of votes and still win the election by winning the popular vote in just eleven states:  NJ, NC, MI, GA, OH, PA, IL, FL, NY, TX, and CA (the eleven states with more electoral college votes than Virginia, which has 13).  That’s why several states have voted to require by state law that their electors chosen in Presidential year elections must vote in the electoral college vote for whichever candidate wins the nationwide popular vote, even if it isn’t the candidate who won the popular vote in their state.  The US Constitution leaves it up to the individual states to decide and govern how their electors are chosen and how they are required to vote in the electoral college vote.  This so-called “Popular Vote Law” or movement will go into effect for the states that adopt it only when enough states adopt the law to equal a majority of the electoral college vote (currently 270 votes); and they’re currently more than half way there, including California and NY.  States and counties are a measurement of square miles and acres, not voters.  No other democratic republic elects their top elected official by whoever won the most acres or square miles.  There are seven states in the US that each individually have a smaller population than the third largest city in Texas.  And those are big states in terms of square miles; but each of those states have fewer than one million eligible voters.  The framers of the US Constitution and founding fathers never even imagined that just 22% of the states would have more than half of the US population, and that one-third of the states would collectively have only 15% of the total US population.  Majority rule is supposed to refer to people, not acres.

         

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        • #130369

          (excuse me while I put my on tinfoil covered cheesehead. Got to protect myself from those evil Bears and Vikings fans….) I respect my fellow Wisconsin voters. Voting is a right, and a choice.  This may be the hardest vote many have made in their lives. I’m proud of them.  90% of winning is just showing up. In the last three months Hillary Clinton did not campaign in WI, PA, MI. Since the election many reasons from the Clinton camp for her no show in the Midwest have been floated. The fact remain, she did not come to make her case here, or in the other two states. Why? Who knows. The voters in WI took notice, as did the voters in the other two states.  People in my home state are very rational and cold blooded when voting on big state and national issues. You will find much of the same in each of the 50 states. Regardless of the outcome, I’m proud of  my fellows citizens for exercising their supreme right, under the Constitution of the United States of America.

        • #130447

          Electoral college is not calculated by acres, it is calculated based on the already constitutionally defined representation in each house of the legislative branch, one of the great compromises along the way to self-government. Currently 435 electors are allocated by population according to the last census, and 100 are allocated 2 per state, without any regard to acreage. We then added 3 for Washington, D.C. by amendment (23rd, maybe?) for 538 possible electoral votes. A majority requires one more vote than half, or 50%+1 is sometimes said, in this case 269+1=270 as you mention. But none of it depends on anyone’s acreage.

          A straight popular vote gives nearly all the power to California and New York. Simple, yes. But convenient only if you agree with how those areas vote.

      • #130366

        From Single exodus from Africa gave rise to today’s non-Africans:

        “One wave of ancient human migrants out of Africa gave rise to all non-Africans alive today, three separate genetic studies conclude.

        Those human explorers left Africa about 50,000 to 72,000 years ago, mixed with Neandertals and spread across the world, researchers report online September 21 in Nature. The studies present data from genetically diverse and previously unrepresented populations. Together they offer a detailed picture of deep human history and may settle some long-standing debates, but there is still room to quibble. All non-Africans stem from one major founding population, the studies agree, but earlier human migrations are also recorded in present-day people’s DNA, one study finds. And a fourth study in the same issue of Nature, this one focusing on ancient climate, also makes the case for an earlier exodus.”

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        • #130454

          If you are willing to look at the current “knowledge” of genetic research, you cannot ignore that the great majority of our European ancestors were descendants of people who left Northern and Sub-Saharan Africa somewhere between 60,000 and 100,00 years ago. That included spreading to the far East, the Steppes, and throughout the Middle East.

          If you add in our remaining cultural knowledge, i.e. The Bible, and all of the other writings (aka Apocrypha) and historical records, you would note that cultural and political issues of our time are descendants of the issues that were burning even then.

          None of those concerns and issues ever addressed a self-governed state such as ours here in the United States of America. We are still on the cutting edge.

          And we may be about to cut our own throats.

          jimzdoats

    • #130340

      And if you cannot control yourself when confronted with an opinion, a statue or a book you disagree with (oh yes,  book burning is coming next) then you are no different than the Taliban or ISIS attempting to erase the past and rewrite history.

      • #130387

        But why are there statues to traitors, people who intentionally and maliciously and purposely violated their oath of allegiance to the United States of America and its Constitution and turned their guns against their own country, neighbors , and in many cases their own family members, just to preserve a way of life that depended upon the institution of slavery?

         

      • #130455

        And neither are you.

        jimzdoats

    • #130433

      Woody you screwed up.  You should have monetized this particular  column and linked it to a click bait advertiser .  Your site would have been funded for the rest of the year.

    • #130446

      {big snip to save bandwidth}

      About half of all Americans think the Democratic party has moved too far to the left and the Republican party has moved too far to the right; and neither thinks compromise and reconciliation are good ideas. Unless one party or the other divorces itself from its activist wings and fringe elements, left or right, and decisively makes a play for the center and moderates, then a centrist third party is the only answer to save this country.

      Unfortunately, the one thing both Democrats and Republicans on all levels of politics agree is nothing shall be done to enable third parties (e.g.: Green, Libertarian, Socialist, Workers’ World, et alia) equal access to the ballot. Each must somehow provide a whelming number of signatures for their parties’ prospective candidates. Each must then stand the heavily-financed challenges to their signatures (by guess whom?). The end result is: If they survive the obstacles, there is no money left to run an activist campaign to be elected. The major media will state, “If you don’t spend (Fill a $ amount) on advertising with us, we don’t consider you a serious candidate.”
      But, a third party must occur, and get people elected on the lower rings of office, so as to create a semblance of critical mass that will pull more centrist voters to its rolls.

      Important links you can use, without the monetization pitch = https://pqrs-ltd.xyz/bookmark4.html
      • #130453

        “Money, money money, – Money!” Followed by “Greenback Boogie”.

        Do I need to say anything else? If you really want to play, say so and we can have some referential fun. Unless I’m too busy selling my shares…and buying desert property with a wind farm and lots of solar. After all, somebody has to power up the new Wall down here.

        jimzdoats

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      What is happening with the advisory councils is more symbolic than economic. The resignations are an effort to avoid any appearance of supporting policies which your customers might find extremely offensive.

      The councils themselves have proven to be doing nothing at all for the economic interests of the industries and businesses they are supposed to be representing. Jobs are not being saved or created by the deliberations of these councils. They have instead become like President Trump’s infamous “loyalty meeting” with a table full of his inner circle of advisers at the time (most of whom are now gone from the Administration).

      If you are seen associating with these councils, customers are starting to view you as pledging loyalty to a “deplorable” point of view. You aren’t going to stick around long when you are losing customers because of appearances of support for offensive policies.

      The symbolism is much stronger than the actual actions of these councils.

      The tech industry has some real issues which need serious attention. But these councils are not acting in ways which will address issues of immigration exemptions, travel restrictions and sharing of knowledge in a global marketplace, among other serious industry issues.

      It doesn’t require a pro-liberal political point of view to cut your losses when your time and effort is being wasted. This on top of the public embarrassment of being seen with someone who refuses to denounce racism, violence and murder of political opponents. Sorry, but Antifa and BLM have not outright killed anyone for opposing them, yet.

      -- rc primak

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