Born: “Recently, Microsoft has been plaguing its Windows 10 users and subscribers to the Windows Insider program.”

Topic

New Reply

Excellent essay from Günter Born. If you’re beta testing Windows, you know he’s right on. Following the motto: Every day a new confusion, different na
[See the full post at: Born: “Recently, Microsoft has been plaguing its Windows 10 users and subscribers to the Windows Insider program.”]

7 users thanked author for this post.

WildBill, walker, abbodi86, lurks about, Mele20, geekdom, Elly

Reply | Quote

Replies

In English, please, or perhaps a translation.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

Reply | Quote

Google’s translation is broken, still not complete you can understand the critical essence of Mr. Born’s essay.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.borncity.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F09%2F01%2Fwindows-insider-programm-quo-vadis%2F

1 user thanked author for this post.

geekdom

Reply | Quote

Thank you and I have bookmarked the google translator.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

Reply | Quote

Microsoft’s Bing Translator produces similar results, using NoScript you have to temporarily unblock a few domain names to see results. There are dozens of other sites which offer translation services many using Microsoft’s or Google’s engines. One more provider, PROMT is a Russian company which offers translation services.

Reply | Quote

geekdom wrote:

In English, please, or perhaps a translation.

Right click on the page > Translate to English.

Reply | Quote

[geekdom]

The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

• This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by geekdom.

Reply | Quote

There’s translator extensions for Firefox.

Reply | Quote

The only two extensions I use are uBlock Origin and NoScript.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

Reply | Quote

Well, it’s not just the ‘Insider’ program that turned into Disney-World-nonsense. Microsoft made Windows 10 the slowest and most unreliable Windows version since Vista, but their marketing clowns and stupid fanbois dare to call it the best Windows ever.

Reply | Quote

Windows 10’s end users are suffering not by their own choice for the most part while insiders are asking for that pain.

Maybe it’s not such a bad idea avoiding Windows 10 as long a possible on any older machines with 7/8.1 able to be run just fine. Windows 10 appears as mostly a BETA  experiment that does not belong being shipped with new hardware in any form other than some longer term Enterprise/LTSC Only variant that’s more oriented towards stability than feature creep.

On several occasions I have been tempted by some new laptop offering but Windows 10 has soured any enthusiasm that any good laptop pricing deals  may have temporarily caused. I just can not see dealing with that OS nonsense shipping with most new laptops that come with Windows 10 installed and no downgrade options to the earlier version of Windows.

Most new CPU/GPU  hardware of the past few years has been restricted to Windows 10 what with the driver support necessary for earlier OS versions lacking. MS and the CPU/GPU makers pulled a fast one totally ignoring Window 8.1 for graphics driver support and that makes things more of a hack fest trying to get older MS OSs to run on AMD’s Zen or Intel’s latest CPUs of the latter few years.

Even when Windows 8.1 was still in mainstream support from MS(First 5 years) MS and the CPU/GPU makers where not vetting drivers for those AMD Zen and later processors. or Intel’s newer processors as well, for 8.1. So it’s coming into a little over 4  years since  Windows 10’s release date and still the stability is lacking compared to windows 7 and 8.1.

Cows being corralled into the meat processing yards is more like what MS has done in conjunction with the CPU/GPU hardware makers in order to restrict any possible Windows 8.1 alternative on newer hardware after Windows 7 goes EOL. So the pain will just become more widespread after Windows 7 is gone and Windows 8.1 made prematurely obsolete before its full 10 years of mainstream/extended support has expired.

Reply | Quote

Ok, I released an English edition of the essay (but I’m not a native speaker).

Windows (Insider Program): Quo vadis?

Ex Microsoft Windows (Insider) MVP, Microsoft Answers Community Moderator, Blogger, Book author

https://www.borncity.com/win/

6 users thanked author for this post.

doriel, WildBill, abbodi86, OscarCP, Mele20, geekdom

Reply | Quote

Ok, I released an English edition of the essay (but I’m not a native speaker).

From your English version of your excellent essay, I would never have guessed you were not a native English speaker. Thanks! It would have been quite a hassle on Basilisk to translate it as I block all links to anything Google and also avoid Bing.

I recall the days when being chosen as a beta tester for a Microsoft product was quite an honor and a highly sought one by many users. Those of us “lucky” enough to get chosen to be a beta tester of some Microsoft product had to work hard, follow Microsoft’s tight guidelines and pace in testing, and had to be productive (in what we found and reported) if we wanted to be considered for further Microsoft beta testing. First time testers were given more guidance and it was a wonderful, interesting experience for all. Sad, how different it is now.

Reply | Quote

anonymous wrote:

Microsoft made Windows 10 the slowest and most unreliable Windows version since Vista, but their marketing clowns and stupid fanbois dare to call it the best Windows ever.

In my experience, it is the best Windows ever.  My Windows 10 Pro installations (except for my NAS, which was a new build) were upgraded from Windows 7 Ultimate or Pro.  Windows 10 Pro on the same hardware is faster and more stable.

I use StartIsBack++ for my Start Menu, and my Windows 10 looks and feels almost exactly the same as Windows 7.  The only real differences are the increased speed and stability of Windows 10.

Every Office application opens in less than a second.  When I open File Explorer, my network is fully populated in under 3 seconds.  Every piece of software that I use opens faster in Windows 10 than it did in Windows 7.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

Computer Specs

1 user thanked author for this post.

b

Reply | Quote

Not to mention the mess with multiple versions of the same update and removing components from higher version

now they did it second month on the row with 1903

1 user thanked author for this post.

geekdom

Reply | Quote

[geekdom]

geekdom wrote:

The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by geekdom.

Right- click translation works with Chrome as well .Add right-click options to Firefox with ‘Custom Right-Click Menu’ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-right-click-menu/

Reply | Quote

[geekdom]

Alex5723 wrote:

geekdom wrote:

The right-click translation selection is available in Internet Explorer, but not available in Mozilla Firefox which is my browser.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by geekdom.

Right- click translation works with Chrome as well .Add right-click options to Firefox with ‘Custom Right-Click Menu’ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/custom-right-click-menu/

Right click translation in Windows 10 1803 does NOT work in ANY browser I have:

Basilisk 2019.06.08
Fx 60.8 ESR
Brave 0.68.132
Edge 42.17134.1.0
Waterfox 56.2.13
Vivaldi 2.6.1566.40

So, I am sure glad Günter translated it as it would have been a big hassle to try and find a decent translator in any of my browsers.

Reply | Quote

Mele20 wrote:

Right click translation in Windows 10 1803 does NOT work in ANY browser I have:

Download portable chrome and use it only when translation needed

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/google_chrome_portable

[Moderator edit] Alex, please quote relevant parts of a post, not the whole thing. (highlight the section and click the quote button).

Reply | Quote

Alex5723 wrote:

Download portable chrome and use it only when translation needed

Ummm..and how would I do that since EVERY url that relates to Google is blocked in my Hosts file on all computers for many, many years? I’m serious about my privacy.

Reply | Quote

Gunter’s translation to English is good. It’s a little stilted, & not as colloquial as I, a native English speaker, would write & speak, but it’s understandable. He & Woody are right; no matter the language, Windows 10 & the current testing environment… umm, how do I say it? SUCK!

Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
Wild Bill Rides Again...

Reply | Quote

Windows 10 are fast on SSD, but this updating havoc is very user and admin unfriendly. In czech language, we call it “změny pro změny” = “changes for changes”, it means, that you do something just because you want to do something. Maybe MS programmers are pushed into this by PR.
Who needs new icon for turning off computer every few motnts? I dont. I am really curious, how they can analyze hundreds of thousands reports sent every week by their insiders. By my opinion, it is not possible.

Dell Latitude 3420, Intel Core i7 @ 2.8 GHz, 16GB RAM, W10 22H2 Enterprise

HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

PRUSA i3 MK3S+

Reply | Quote